Homebrew HRT Community - From mixing estradiol with bioadhesives to cooking plastic bags.

[FiveStarAce]

what the fuck are you talking about retard? this is an INTERNET WEB FORUM about PEOPLE WHO SHIT THEMSELVES. You are not a cop, you are not a mandatory reporter, in fact in the US you have a constitutional right to never report anything as a private citizen. If a police officer is about to be shot you have no duty to do shit. If you're a cop standing outside a Florida highschool with an active shooter you have no duty to go inside and stop it.

The rule is:
IF YOU FEEL SO COMPELLED TO DO SOMETHING
YOU DO NOT NEED TO POST IT ON THE KIWI FARMS FOR STICKERS

We have the duty to sneed.

 

[Brutality]

Tranny al capone lol

 

[AnOminous]

It is the perfect customer group. Even if you fuck up and literally poison some of them to death all the others will blindly defend you come hell or high water.

It's the perfect scam victim group. Just sell the dumb fucks dextrose solution with food coloring in it and an anime girl on the tube. Like they'll be able to tell the difference.

Obviously don't actually do this, but you KNOW there are people out there doing exactly that.

 

[nvrwastetree]

Necrotizing fasciitis, sepsis, lost limbs, death.

There is no real limit to possible horrors of DIY "medicine".

Don't forget MRSA, Hiv/AIDS, Hepatitis, cotton fever, and of course... abscesses

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

I can’t wait for bad science to make me some genetic lolcow genderscolds

 

[sylv-chan]

It's the perfect scam victim group. Just sell the dumb fucks dextrose solution with food coloring in it and an anime girl on the tube. Like they'll be able to tell the difference.

Obviously don't actually do this, but you KNOW there are people out there doing exactly that.

honestly why not? you can buy actually safe shit pre-made which matches this description. Shit would be harm reduction with how it is safer than troonshine.

 

[Dyn]

It's probably not true, but I remember a story somebody told me about a FOAF who was in the habit of using the water from toilet bowls to shoot up with...

Even junkies would know to take tap water from the handwashing basin instead.

 

[Aquarius]

Enjoy Endocarditis, tranny children.

NoooOOOOooo, bigot child, it is you who will have endocarditis. Enjoy being transphobic, stalker.

Yep, and it was apparently drawn as a direct reference to Bobposting and Keffals.
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I still see this comic posted all the time. The vast majority of troons support injecting minors with bathtub troonshine. There's no ambiguity about it.

Twitter thread about the comic's origins:

Spoiler

https://x.com/EliErlick/status/1763254852832878633
(The deleted tweets below are from Keffals.)
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Spoiler: Shut up, Bobposting, you pedo faggot

Yeah, because people totally call Lucas “she”. Bobposting totally looks like a cute anime girl IRL. Bobposting is totally the daintiest person in the room always. This isn’t the tranny version of political comic strip artists making the bad guy yell.

One thing that always confused me about people who avatar-fag as someone more attractive than themselves… don’t they feel ashamed? I got caught doctoring my selfies as a teenager, and this becoming public knowledge mortified me. I can’t imagine getting caught LARPing as a petite anime babe. Then again, I can’t imagine conducting medical experiments on children, either.

Spoiler: Eli Erlick mentioned

Oh, and Eli Erlick is a tranny rapist sex pest lunatic who’s just as complicit in the troonshine grift as Keffals and Bob. When I say “tranny rapist” I mean both in the sense that he is a tranny and that he rapes other trannies. Of course, we TERFs cannot discuss a man raping women, because that’s violating a boundary:

[A]ddition by detailcentral: this post, or any other post on this blog, are not here for TERFs/radical feminists/adult human females/whatever you call yourselves now. you know who you are. this is an intra-community post for the trans community, not an excuse for you to point at how trans people/trans women are evil. [It’s] very ironic how you want trans people to stay out of your spaces, but once you’re asked to stay out of something to do with trans people, you feel completely free to disregard that boundary.

Because people reading the criminal accusations you make public and post in a public forum is the same as a man following a teenaged girl into a locker room. These (fake) people love clutching their (equally fake) pearls, don’t they?

 

[Ms. Dia Gnosis]

I cannot wait until the true effects of troonshine fully appear in a few years and instead of a femboy juice they're left with cancer powder

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Chemicals aren't magic. Everything is made of chemicals. Some kinds of chemistry need a perfectly sterile lab and multimillion dollar pieces of equipment, and some kinds are done in dirty wooden barrels and holes dug in the ground. Suspending estriadol in oil is basic-bitch simple and doesn't need some cartel superlab to manage. Any moderately clean flat working surface and a heat source is enough.

The risks of taking troonshine aren't in manufacturing it properly, they're in consuming it without proper medical oversight.

It's both actually when dealing with drooling retards who don't understand basic hygiene. In principle I agree, it could be done, but the sketchiness of the vendors, of the kits, of the hygiene standards. NIGGER THEY AREN'T RECOMMENDING EVEN A BASIC BITCH HAIR NET, OR A FACE MASK. They will 100% themselves this way - TTD. I only pity the poor doctors who'll have to deal with the XDR super bug infections they'll cause, and the patients who'll have to share the same hospital with these evolutionary rejects.

 

[Swole McPole]

Even junkies would know to take tap water from the handwashing basin instead.

There are reasons why this doesn't happen. In a busy bathroom with loads of people around, you don't want to be getting your works out where everyone can see what you're up to. It's probably different today when nobody gives much of a fuck, but this was back in the 70's. Somebody would call the cops, the cops would come and you WOULD be getting locked up.

My reason for doubting it has nothing to do with the issue of somebody drawing water from a toilet. I've seen that done. It's more that it's too good a story. It smacks of a stand-up bit rather than a thing that really happened.

 

[GlupShitto]

Ngl I'm kinda tempted to set up one of these DIY HRT shops but sell them some sort of poison instead.

 

[Cyberpunk Panatela]

Is there a DIY HRT website megalist anywhere? Also, for ones that don't operate in the US, where should they be reported?

If you're serious and not trolling:

-No idea about any "master list", I'm not a trash-tier tranny.

Spoiler: Guide to playing policeman on the Internet

- The department that's usually in charge of this kind of shit is the one where drugs are registered as safe and are classified and conditions are set for their sale to the public. (FDA in the case of the US, BfArM[Bundesinstitut für Arzneimittel und Medizinprodukte] in Germany, etc. etc.)

- The local police force may have a drug unit (These guys are usually only interested if there is the prospect of a big bust or international operation[preferably led by them] in the offing.)

- The department of Customs and Excise confiscates contraband. This doesn't hit the manufacturer but has the effect of wasting the customer's money.

-If you and your country are both massive faggots, approach the local "Internet police" and ask that the seller's site be blocked in your country. The only such entities I know about are the eSafety Commissioner in Australia(? New Zealand) and Roskomnadzor in Russia. I don't know whether the latter responds to complaints or only acts on court orders. The eSafety lot are massive wimps who seem to respond positively to any and all Australians(? New Zealanders, I'm not wasting my time looking it up) who bitch about something online.

Needless to say, if you took the last step I don't think you're a good fit for this site and strongly suggest that you fuck off.

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

Time to stamp this shit out in the US too! Before they kill and hurt more people. It is beyond outrageous how they have gotten a free pass from a normally bloated control freak health/medical bureaucracy so out of control that they ban CHEESE imports.

 

[Aquarius]

Well I mean the processes are public and all but this is still manufacture of a controlled substance with intent to distribute

On top of that, it is mandated that compounded drugs like these are made in a sterile environment with state approved aseptic technique

No legal disclaimers can get around this

You’re right, but we also live in a nightmare world with a two-tier justice system. People are in prison for weed, but creeps like this traipse around freely.

[I’d] trust a drug addicted tranny more than a real doctor/pharmacist

And you’d be extremely stupid to do so for reasons I will get to.

it has nothing to do with attracting children.

It does, actually. Or, rather, it’s less about attracting children and more indicative of people who replicate children. Trannies have erotic target errors, or erotic inversions. This means they get so horny over certain fetish objects that they dress up in them and achieve a similar high to watching people they’re attracted to wear such items.

Why does Smartschoolboy wear school uniforms? Because he wants to fuck kids and finds the accoutrements of Bri’ish childhood arousing. Why does the tranny steal the name of his high school crush and wear clothes he sees in pornography? Because those things have become psychic shorthand for arousal. Because this hypothetical tranny wants to fuck those particular girls.

So it doesn’t matter if the tranny intends to attract kids to his site with a cute children’s toy. What matters is that a grown man is fixated on the visual cues of childhood. That means he’s getting something out of it, and that he’s a threat to kids. That bodes badly for children, given the low quality products here and the clear sadistic and financial motive. Oh, and, as I’ll say a little later on in this post, many of us are aware of the IKEA shark’s significance.

My concern is that the solution is non-buffered and will create local tissue necrosis due to osmolarity potential.

To clarify for non-science fwens:
1. Buffered solutions are solutions that have been, through one means or another, stabilized in terms of pH. That is, the liquid inside has a consistent level of acidity. This is important because the pH affects the reaction, so if it varies throughout the solution, it won’t react fully, and the subsequent numbers will be off, for one thing. It might hurt really bad and damage tissue if you inject it, for another. There are random patches of high or low pH, and that can cause tissue necrosis (aka death of cells).

2. Osmolarity refers to the concentration of solutes in the solution, or bits of stuff in the liquid. If the solution has too high or low an osmolarity (compared to one’s own body fluids), it can disrupt the balance of fluids in cells and tissues. A solution with improper osmolarity can draw too much fluid into or out of the cells, causing them to burst or collapse, contributing further to tissue damage and necrosis.

Basically, you want the injectable fluid to have a similar amount of “stuff” floating around in the fluid as there is floating around in the cell jelly. When this doesn’t happen, either you flood the area so nothing works properly OR you inject too much gunk for your body to dissolve and absorb. If it’s too low (hypoosmotic), it can cause water to flood into cells, which might make them swell, rupture, or malfunction. If the osmolarity is too high (hyperosmotic), the solution can pull water out of cells, dehydrating them and causing damage.

It's because the shark is the same colours as the tranny flag.

Well, men are 8-16x more likely to be colourblind than women, but I always assumed the IKEA shark was popular because of this Reddit post. It’s especially ironic, since the man - stupidstories, AKA Sharkboy or Sharky - in the photo ended up regretting his surgery. He was botched badly and regularly posts about suicide and detransition.

Just to double check, I looked up the date of the original post. It was archived on the 26th of October, 2019. It is 32 days old, so we’re looking at something in September 2019. The IKEA shark was already a product (otherwise how would he get it), but it seems like the meme took off after this picture.

Spoiler: Google trend graph

do not understand the appeal or why these retards love this shit.

Actually, a lot of heckin’ manly doods struggle with needles. And, sadly, many a documentary on “trans kids” shows the child screaming or crying at the needle. Worse, we see the parent coaching the kid to get back in there.

the high is derived from their fetish instead of the substance itself.

Well, that, and estrogen and testosterone are mind-altering substances. They’re not, like, deliriants (although teenagers might make you think that). They’re more like, say, caffeine, but they do affect mood. Troons aren’t like junkies, they are junkies… and usually for multiple substances.

I remember dunking on a troon once in a debate. He was saying that transwomen have “the brains” of “cis women”, which confused me because how does one make a female brain from male neurons? Anyway, he produced a study on how the brains of lifelong troon cross-sex hormone abusers resemble those of women. Which, you know, says nothing about the inherent effeteness of these men, only that estrogen is physically mind-altering, and that’s why your post reminded me of this. To top it off, I remember responding to this troon with a paper on how prolonged heroin use changes the structure of the brain.

I wonder if autogynephilia gives an unnaturally huge high compared to other fetishes.

That’s not it. It’s that paraphilias cluster and sex offenders escalate over time. A guy with autogynephilia is more likely to be a pedophile, or into auto-erotic asphyxiation. I defend this position much more throughly here in my reply to Syikeblade.

They are probably going to drink the excess in order to euphoriate faster.

What’s funny is that troons will often ignore their endocrinologists and go for higher doses of whatever hormone they’re fixating on. They’ll say doctors are “gatekeepers” preventing transwomen from becoming their most beautiful selves, and encourage one another to choose their own dose. And post details so they can use that data for themselves.

Because they’re porn-sick men and think of everything in terms of dick measuring, they think increasing estrogen as much as possible will give them the best results. In reality, these super high doses actually work less effectively than low or moderate doses. It’s almost like this is a difficult subject and you need to go to school for it. Overdosing on their hormones will often result in ugly tuberous breasts as opposed to the fat titties they want.

 

[Dawdler]

To top it off, I remember responding to this troon with a paper on how prolonged heroin use changes the structure of the brain.

I imagine he wasn't happy about it.

Overdosing on their hormones will often result in ugly tuberous breasts as opposed to the fat titties they want.

It gets better. They think that taking hormones will turn them into the other sex. There was a thead on plebbit last week that they were shocked that they "turned" half way and stopped and that's apparently the norm.

 

[Diesel Boogaloo]

Ngl I'm kinda tempted to set up one of these DIY HRT shops but sell them some sort of poison instead.

That's the dumbest way to land in jail.

There's no need to poison them deliberately, they're already doing that to themselves.

 

[Oliver Onions]

Tranny al capone lol

Does that make Null Elliot Ness, or whoever Sean Connery's character was in the movie?

"He pulls a syringe? You pull out photos of him pre-transition. He DDOS's the Farms? You take down his entire unlicensed pharmacy. That's the Kiwi Farms way, and that's how we ratio Keffals."

I cannot wait until the true effects of troonshine fully appear in a few years and instead of a femboy juice they're left with cancer powder

I'm hoping for a repeat of the thalidomide crisis but with adults who voluntarily induced necrosis on their limbs.

 

[Poonocchio]

Well, men are 8-16x more likely to be colourblind than women

Yes, that's why I said it.

but I always assumed the IKEA shark was popular because of this Reddit post.

Probably various reasons, but according to some trannies quoted in the main tranny thread, that's what they surmised about the deep tranny shark lore.

 

[InfiniteGodmode]

Let's drug mentally ill children with pills that'll entirely change their lives forever and never come back from it! What's the worst that could happen?