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You mean his known sexual exploits against women like it's a frat party? Or one of his friends pleading guilty to sex trafficking? Innocent until prove guilty, I know. But what evidence is there that he didn't do it?
Burden of proof is on the accuser. It's not on me to prove a fucking negative.
Every once in a while, not often, Cenk can do something unironically incredible, akin to when Chris-chan fucking torched the Batman Caller.

This is one of those times.
 
I can't help but like cenk. He's hilariously out of touch but when he cracks and says what everyone is thinking it's amazing.

I love that split second of him realizing how stupid that blasphemy line is
no one will it will a urban legend of the internet.
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This is not fucking good. And this sure as shit isn't the actions of a winning war effort or strategy. (I remember when authorizing cluster munitions lead to the Russians responding in kind and the Ukrainians running out of that ammo for little gain)

This Paranoia over the Russians winning is going to lead to worse outcomes if they don't reign this shit in.


I get it, Europe doesn't have a military worth a dam without America or the proxies in the krain . Everybody's afraid of the big bad Russia. But the West provoked this shit by expanding the nato borders, financing a coup in the krain, promoting and arming literal neo Nazis. Turning said nazis into the most heavily armed conventional army outside of Russia. And the west repeatedly turning a blind eye to said Nazis shelling civilian separatists for YEARS before Russia got involved.

Not to mention Biden opening the door to a limited incursion. Do you remember that little snafu? All but verbally Giving tact permission to invade?

This isn't a crusade of good against evil. This is the US establishment propping up the most corrupt and depraved nation in Europe as a way to save their money laundering playground and stick it to Russia by bleeding every man they can.


(Id link details and video but the strategy of being openly excited for jury duty somehow got me picked. )

Just try to compare the circle jerking in the pro krain thread and the actual information and accessments in the Russia thread and draw your own conclusions.
 
FYI, Linda McMahon has previously been involved in trump's cabinet in his previous term, she has been the admin of the Small Business Administration (SBA) from 2017-2019, so her being with him again isn't that surprising, but what is surprising she got assigned to education of all places, she has no prior history in being involved in this field at all.

Are they assigning people more for loyalty to Trump, and not on actual merit?
 
And there it is. If you want to bait folks out, you need to go a little longer with your larp.
Call me a retard, but I honestly don't understand what you are saying.

You can project whatever political constructs you want on me to help soothe yourself, but I've hated Vince for 20 years. I'm an OG Vince hater. I've autistically investigated him. There are many people who've hated him for many decades you would classify as "right wing." He's not a cool guy. He's an uncool guy for many reasons, and that list of reasons has only gotten larger and more extreme over time. I see no reason that pattern wouldn't hold. Maybe he took too many blows to the head at 50+ years old, I don't know. Vince McMahon is not a hill you want to die on, trust me.. or don't; go ahead and do the research, just make sure you have a barf bag handy.
 
Call me a retard, but I honestly don't understand what you are saying.

You can project whatever political constructs you want on me to help soothe yourself, but I've hated Vince for 20 years. I'm an OG Vince hater. I've autistically investigated him. There are many people who've hated him for many decades you would classify as "right wing." He's not a cool guy. He's an uncool guy for many reasons, and that list of reasons has only gotten larger and more extreme over time. I see no reason that pattern wouldn't hold. Maybe he took too many blows to the head at 50+ years old, I don't know. Vince McMahon is not a hill you want to die on, trust me.. or don't; go ahead and do the research, just make sure you have a barf bag handy.
Too Hard; Didn't Research: He allegedly took a shit on some girl he hired so he could bang her, possibly with other dudes in his company.

He's also allegedly into BBC degradation.
 
The Yasuke thing is exaggerated nonsense, but there absolutely was a huge slave trade in Japan back in the day. They called slaves 奴婢. That's how the Portuguese and the Jesuits could acquire Japanese slaves to begin with. It was banned because Japanese authorities knew nothing good would come from having their citizens sold to foreigners instead of just Japanese nobles selling Japanese slaves to each other. It was mostly just buying and selling indentured labor contracts of which the indentured servant couldn't ever be expected to escape from. I mean it even shows up in that Elusive Samurai anime and there's a bonus page in the manga that goes into detail explaining it.
Look I know this Yasuke thing was a shitshow but he was a real person that was the personal pet of a Jesuit because he had been found and converted to Christianity in one of the Portuguese African colonies. He came with him to Japan and when Oda Nobunaga saw him he was absolutely dumbstruck and fascinated. The Jesuits, trying to secure trade agreements, gifted him to to Oda and he made him a retainer. That was was pretty much it until Oda was betrayed and surrounded at a temple on the cusp of conquering Japan. He committed suicide with Yasuke as his second and was was captured by Akechi Mitsuhide, the man who betrayed Oda Nobunaga. The Jesuits said that since he wasn't Japanese his life should be spared, and he was returned to their custody. That's it, he's a minor figure in these extraordinary events, because the death of Oda Nobunaga was the impetus for Toyotomi Hideyoshi to conquer and unify the warring states and become Kampaku and eventually Taiko, with his retainer Tokugawa Ieyasu becoming Shogun after the Taiko's passing, ushering in the Tokugawa Shogunate that lasted until the Meiji Restoration.

tl;dr he was the slave, or indentured manservant of a Portuguese Jesuit who casually gifted him to a Japanese warlord who then treated him as a real person and in return he honored his master at his end. It's an interesting footnote but a footnote nonetheless and all it shows is feudal Japanese nobles were not beholden to Western beliefs about Africans. This is what the Japanese learn, if they learn anything about him at all.
 
Wait, what?
They were doing their Spartacus routine in the thread and it reminded me of that show. First and second seasons are actually very entertaining, if a bit goofy. They were having fun with the early generation of CGI and greenscreen tech that didn't look like total shit.

Granted, it looks like shit. But the show is fun. The lead actor got lymphoma after season one, which led to a very creative season two; but then he fucking died after season two and the show was still alright but just not the same.

Anyway check it out. It's fun. A good show for couples because there are beautiful people for everyone to enjoy and the action (which is high test) is balanced by a lot of drama and intrigue.

And Lucy Lawless completely naked.
 
I get it, Europe doesn't have a military worth a dam without America or the proxies in the krain . Everybody's afraid of the big bad Russia. But the West provoked this shit by expanding the nato borders, financing a coup in the krain, promoting and arming literal neo Nazis.
Have you considered that those members of former warsaw pact (or in the case of the baltics, ex soviet republics) wanted to join NATO after being part of the eastern side of the iron curtain for decades?, It says a lot more about than Russia that they would turn to the other side after that specific period.
Turning said nazis into the most heavily armed conventional army outside of Russia.
Are there neo-nazis in the Ukrainian army?, absolutely, Azov comes to mind, but they are an extreme minority, much like how neo-nazis are a fringe in every other country, and always has been, especially post full-scale invasion, when even more of the military are now made of conscripts.

Have you also thought about the fact that the "Neo-nazi army" has a Jewish man as the leader?

Turning said nazis into the most heavily armed conventional army outside of Russia. And the west repeatedly turning a blind eye to said Nazis shelling civilian separatists for YEARS before Russia got involved.
What kind of civilians are armed with proper military equipment?, that is quite literally outside the definition of a civilian, by the way, you do know Russia has been militarily involved since 2014?, they weren't just standing there with twiddling their thumbs until they suddenly went aggressive in 2022, there's a reason Feb 24 is considered a "major escalation", not the start of their involvement.

If you think Ukraine is being given too much military aid from the US, then fine, but all these attempts at moral justification and dindu nuffinning for the shit that poor little Russia has done to this country is the thing I can't stand at all.
 
Have you considered that those members of former warsaw pact (or in the case of the baltics, ex soviet republics) wanted to join NATO after being part of the eastern side of the iron curtain for decades?, It says a lot more about than Russia that they would turn to the other side after that specific period
They ran away from Russia to get away from the communists who were waiting for them in the NATO countries. When the USSR fell, many of those responsible entered American institutions.
 
Look I know this Yasuke thing was a shitshow but he was a real person that was the personal pet of a Jesuit because he had been found and converted to Christianity in one of the Portuguese African colonies. He came with him to Japan and when Oda Nobunaga saw him he was absolutely dumbstruck and fascinated. The Jesuits, trying to secure trade agreements, gifted him to to Oda and he made him a retainer. That was was pretty much it until Oda was betrayed and surrounded at a temple on the cusp of conquering Japan. He committed suicide with Yasuke as his second and was was captured by Akechi Mitsuhide, the man who betrayed Oda Nobunaga. The Jesuits said that since he wasn't Japanese his life should be spared, and he was returned to their custody. That's it, he's a minor figure in these extraordinary events, because the death of Oda Nobunaga was the impetus for Toyotomi Hideyoshi to conquer and unify the warring states and become Kampaku and eventually Taiko, with his retainer Tokugawa Ieyasu becoming Shogun after the Taiko's passing, ushering in the Tokugawa Shogunate that lasted until the Meiji Restoration.

tl;dr he was the slave, or indentured manservant of a Portuguese Jesuit who casually gifted him to a Japanese warlord who then treated him as a real person and in return he honored his master at his end. It's an interesting footnote but a footnote nonetheless and all it shows is feudal Japanese nobles were not beholden to Western beliefs about Africans. This is what the Japanese learn, if they learn anything about him at all.
Yeah, that's what the actual records say. At best you can say he was a pet that Oda really liked enough to grant some titles. Maybe if Oda hadn't been killed he could have parleyed it into some minor status, but he wasn't some important figure any more than other weird historical oddities like how descendants of the Aztec and Inca rulers ended up living in Spain and having noble titles. Or the white people in Japan at the time.
Have you considered that those members of former warsaw pact (or in the case of the baltics, ex soviet republics) wanted to join NATO after being part of the eastern side of the iron curtain for decades?, It says a lot more about than Russia that they would turn to the other side after that specific period.
Or it says they've traded one shitty master for another. Note that without Russia, there would be no "Baltic states" because they were a bunch of serfs ruled by German and Swedish landlords or in the case of Lithuania Polish and Russian landlords (since medieval Lithuania was literally just a claimant to the Kievan Rus which happened to have a Baltic ruling dynasty). Open a history book.
What kind of civilians are armed with proper military equipment?, that is quite literally outside the definition of a civilian, by the way, you do know Russia has been militarily involved since 2014?, they weren't just standing there with twiddling their thumbs until they suddenly went aggressive in 2022, there's a reason Feb 24 is considered a "major escalation", not the start of their involvement.

If you think Ukraine is being given too much military aid from the US, then fine, but all these attempts at moral justification and dindu nuffinning for the shit that poor little Russia has done to this country is the thing I can't stand at all.
Russia was not involved since 2014, at least no more than the US was. They only became involved as the Ukrainian forces committed increasing atrocities. February 24, 2022 was Russia responding to Ukraine's offensive which would have involved a major escalation of the war crimes they were committing against their own people.
 
Too Hard; Didn't Research: He allegedly took a shit on some girl he hired so he could bang her, possibly with other dudes in his company.

He's also allegedly into BBC degradation.
yeah vince is into poop and poop color people
it's pretty funny to laugh at because you can easily imagine him doing the Vince voice for the crazy shit that leaked (no pun intended)
 
If you think Ukraine
OK you made me tap the sign: we have two threads dedicated to agreeing with the Ukraine or stanning Russia. Kindly post the Slavic slapfight musings in either/or unless its directly related to United States politics but not here. The anti-personnel mines are a good example how its related to US policy and/or policymakers, the feels of former Warsaw Pact nations are not.

Otherwise there's going to be jannying. You best believe it.
 
OK you made me tap the sign: we have two threads dedicated to agreeing with the Ukraine or stanning Russia. Kindly post the Slavic slapfight musings in either/or unless its directly related to United States politics but not here. The anti-personnel mines are a good example how its related to US policy and/or policymakers, the feels of former Warsaw Pact nations are not.

Otherwise there's going to be jannying. You best believe it.
Hey, don't blame me, I was responding to someone who directly brought up Ukraine was discussing with someone who directly brought up Ukraine in the first place.

honestly its pretty hard to not bring that up since it makes up a notable and often-discussed part of Trump's foreign policy.
 
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Or it says they've traded one shitty master for another. Note that without Russia, there would be no "Baltic states" because they were a bunch of serfs ruled by German and Swedish landlords or in the case of Lithuania Polish and Russian landlords (since medieval Lithuania was literally just a claimant to the Kievan Rus which happened to have a Baltic ruling dynasty). Open a history book.
And?, is this supposed to delegitimize their existence as independent nations?, plenty of people groups have been under a greater power for a majority of their history before gaining independence, doesn't make them invalid.
They only became involved as the Ukrainian forces committed increasing atrocities. February 24, 2022 was Russia responding to Ukraine's offensive which would have involved a major escalation of the war crimes they were committing against their own people.
What the fuck are you talking about, are you not aware of the ceasefire before the 2021 build-up of Russian forces around their borders where little fighting happened?, or are you saying that they gunned down civilians during a relatively quiet phase of the war out of nowhere?
 
The feels are related. What they fled from now exists in America, and often the same people.
As far as the US and US policy is concerned? Nah. They are literally only there to serve as a place to attack Russia from, should it come to that. Just ask Poland, Germany and ofc Russia.

We like to pretend we aren't an empire but we very much are.

Edit: If you're referring to Nuland, Bzezinski and the like they don't make the decisions, they're just the public face of old money that actually runs our joint. Vicky retired and her mate was fired/resigned. Stop ascribing power to these cunts that they don't actually have. They are Grand Viziers that fall in and out of favor, the throne makes all the decisions about who and where to strike.

And btw it's not Biden, he's a soulless meat puppet. Trump is just a concession to the plebes to avoid a true reset-a civil war.
 
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