US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Nuns with guns]

RFK Jr. met with Dr. Oz

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Why nominate him in the first place if he had this much baggage? Trump and his team had to have known this was going to play out like this.

He doesn't have baggage. The Deep State is just terrified of him because he usually has the balls to stand up to them. It's been the Democrats playbook to accuse anyone they don't like of diddling some random hoe 30 years ago for the past decade. None of its real. It's all fake n gay. They're bribed and paid in massive book deals that are meant to launder fuck loads of cash.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

That does not really matter for this scenario. Even if he were confirmed any policies he put in place could be undone by a future AG. The point is to tear the place down right now. That can be done via EO.

I don't mind recess appointments since those are allowed by the Constitution but monarchy-rule by EO is not.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Why nominate him in the first place if he had this much baggage? Trump and his team had to have known this was going to play out like this.

He doesn’t have baggage, that’s the thing. It’s all fake bullshit but it allows faggots like Colin’s and Murkowski to stand and be dumb bitches

Simple: Trump and his people are forcing the Uniparty to spend their accumulated favors and energy to block appointees now so that later on they are out of steam to stop him from appointing whoever they wa

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I mean... it is possible that Trump is doing a classic American business move: make a ridiculous first offer so that your second offer is seen as more acceptable.

 

[invisibult plus+]

This almost certainly also confirms there are not the votes in the house or senate for any recess shenanigans.

Ultimately the senate gop is full of complete faggots. Trump will have to bypass them. If it comes to it just appoint people to outside "advisory" positions like he did with Musk and then have them make "recommendations" that he implements via executive order. Hell just have gaetz set up shop in the DOJ and make a hundred recommendation EO's every morning that zips over to Trump when he wakes up to sign and let him run the place that way.

Not sure.

Ultimately the precedent has been set the day Biden got planted in office and his handlers sent out a million EOs to cancel out everything from Trump's first term, not to mention the million "recommendations" that became de facto law due to an invented emergency. However, because it's Trump doing it, the courts will be singing a different tune. I personally dislike this constant going around the system. Going around Congress ultimately means that only votes for the President matter. It goes against the principle of checks and balances and is bound to lead to more fucked up shit in the future.

I can only hope Trump has learned well enough from his first term.

Even if Grand Inquisitor Garland couldn't find anything chargeable, Gaetz's name is still tarnished by association. There unfortunately isn't presumption of innocence in the court of public opinion.

After everything that happened to Trump? I don't know. The Lügenpresse is slowly losing credibility, but apparently too slowly.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

I've assumed from the start that Trump is using a strategy of making a lot of picks, some of whom he knows are likely to not be winners, and then his actual pick comes in as the "second" pick.

I don't think the legislators think of MAGA as the same flash in the pan it once was. They can stand against a couple of nominees and not run into much trouble, but anyone who's slamming multiple picks for the same role is going to get primary challenged ASAP.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I've assumed from the start that Trump is using a strategy of making a lot of picks, some of whom he knows are likely to not be winners, and then his actual pick comes in as the "second" pick.

I don't think the legislators think of MAGA as the same flash in the pan it once was. They can stand against a couple of nominees and not run into much trouble, but anyone who's slamming multiple picks for the same role is going to get primary challenged ASAP.

This also gives the GOP a veneer of legitimacy. They can point to a few rejected nominations and say "look, we aren't slaves to Trump."

 

[Sekirodiealot]

 

[Puff]

I mean... it is possible that Trump is doing a classic American business move: make a ridiculous first offer so that your second offer is seen as more acceptable.

I mean there's a book about this by a Mr. Donald Trump.

 

[Meat Target]

Some good news: Gary Gensler, an unindicted co-conspirator of Sam Bankman-Fried and tried to protect him from prosecution, is stepping down as SEC chair in January.

Yeah, it sucks we won't get Gaetz, but it's not the end of the world. Quit dooming, faggots.

 

[George Lucas]

This guy is dumb.

 

[invisibult plus+]

I mean... it is possible that Trump is doing a classic American business move: make a ridiculous first offer so that your second offer is seen as more acceptable.

I've assumed from the start that Trump is using a strategy of making a lot of picks, some of whom he knows are likely to not be winners, and then his actual pick comes in as the "second" pick.

I don't think the legislators think of MAGA as the same flash in the pan it once was. They can stand against a couple of nominees and not run into much trouble, but anyone who's slamming multiple picks for the same role is going to get primary challenged ASAP.

This kind of strategy makes sense and is typical for him. It also lets him test out how the Uniparty is and what its doing. However, what the Uniparty is doing right now is its typical strategy of: trying to strongarm its opponents into giving up. Save for a few, and lunatics like MTG, the average politician isn't "built" to survive that. I don't know how Trump can set the stage for future anti-Establishment politicians that are currently municipal -> county level.

 

[George Lucas]

I fully expect Trump to nominate someone even more of a headache for the establishment than Gaetz, but who is also more ‘qualified’ on paper.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

This also gives the GOP a veneer of legitimacy. They can point to a few rejected nominations and say "look, we aren't slaves to Trump."

Exactly. This is win-win. Trump gives some red meat to his base that calls everyone RINOs if they're not in lockstep. The RINOs get to look brave in the face of Trumpamania. And when the real picks are let in, they can say "aw shucks, we couldn't say no to EVERYTHING the guy wanted, he did get a lot of votes..."

I imagine all the sacrificial lambs have been briefed on their status and have some kind of sinecure waiting. Gaetz, if he's not made a senator, I imagine will end up in a comfy ambassadorship to whatever country he'd most enjoy fucking off to.

 

[Exterminatus]

So there’s at least 4 senators being mega faggots to screw MAGA over, just recess them all with extreme prejudice

Bill Cassidy
Lisa Murkowski
Susan Collins
John Cornyn

Those are the 4 real big ones; you also have old ghouls like Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell waiting in the wings to fuck over Trump.

 

[DrearyDoomguy]

The uniparty has it's first scalp. I do not like Gaetz but it's not a good sign.

I'm going to wait and see who he nominates as a replacement. He could have easily appointed him in recess so this is not an issue with being able to get him past the Senate. To be honest Gaetz always struck me as a bit erratic. I have to wonder if Trump named him simply as a threat.

 

[pwnest injun]

I mean... it is possible that Trump is doing a classic American business move: make a ridiculous first offer so that your second offer is seen as more acceptable.

In law, it's common that you are required to attempt lesser remedies before resorting to more drastic remedies. So maybe a forced recess will still happen, and the appointments will be made that way, but Trump still has a month or two to try and negotiate acceptable appointments before that becomes the reasonable path.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

This also gives the GOP a veneer of legitimacy. They can point to a few rejected nominations and say "look, we aren't slaves to Trump."

Trump getting elected was the GOP's veneer of legitimacy. Every act against his mandate is just further proof that we need to primary RINOs even harder.

 

[LeChampion1992]

This guy is fucked up for saying he's going to send 50,000 moms out to the frontlines to fight federal agents in the defense of illegal aliens that would rape and kill their daughters for the fucking fun of it.

I think the scary thing to think of this here is the left desperately is trying to find plausible deniability ie a proper causus belli to have a civil conflict.
The only way they can really win is launch a revolution, political coup or Trump fucks up the next 4 years that were screwed.

That mandate from heaven deflated a lot faster than I expected it to. Here's to another 4 years of never ending obstruction.

I think despite the poor choice from gaetz I think he has enough experience to bid his time. Gaetz like Vance is playing with a full deck so to speak these guys do play 4D chess and I think we should keep our eyes on them both.