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Yea i figured so.
I can imagine these big brains, just think you can blast any nigger who is out past sundown and just walk free without any sort of legal issues. He got his moment in court and won the case. Holding stupid grudges like this, keeps people retarded.
Plus the fact the Martin case was a different time, a different political landscape. It has nothing at all to do with Trump, MAGA or anything that has gone on in the last 8 years. Most people don't even remember the case at all.
Who could forget absolute bangers in trolling like this, over 10 years later and Jaffa is still calling.
 
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Morning, USPG. I bring you my favorite article this morning:

"Trump immigration crackdown: Denaturalization just a drop in the bucket" (archive)
President-elect Trump’s incoming administration is expected to take aim at legal immigration, in addition to cracking down on the illegal variety, slowing the pace of application approvals and redirecting resources to look for fraud in old applications, including naturalizations.

The first Trump administration pushed for more denaturalizations, an initiative that incoming White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller has said will be “supercharged” the second time around.

Though that effort is primed to make a big media impact, it’s unlikely to make a statistically significant dent in immigrant populations.

“I think it’s safe to assume that there will not be an attempt to denaturalize Elon Musk. I think we can probably guess that one. But I think you could end up having a chilling effect on people,” said Stuart Anderson, director of the National Foundation for American Policy (NFAP).

“They kind of just got started on denaturalization efforts, and it’s certainly something that can continue, but I can’t imagine the numbers would be as big as you might see, in terms of comparison to mass deportation, or simply just blocking green card categories, such as blocking the diversity category, for example, which would be like 50,000 people a year.”

Though denaturalizations are exceedingly rare, the first Trump administration made at least two major efforts to put them in the spotlight.

In 2018, Francis Cissna, then-director of United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, said the agency was hiring a team of lawyers to refer 1,600 cases of naturalization fraud to the Department of Justice. And in 2020, DOJ launched its own denaturalization initiative, looking to push more cases through court.

At the time, CNN reported that the Justice Department had filed a total of 228 cases from 2008 to 2020, 94 of which were filed during the first three years of the Trump administration.

And denaturalizations became more difficult for the government to prove in 2017, when the Supreme Court decided a landmark case setting a high burden of proof for the government to successfully prosecute naturalization application fraud.

In essence, naturalized citizens can lose their U.S. citizenship if they willfully concealed or misrepresented a fact in their applications or interactions with U.S. immigration officials, and that fact was material to their eligibility for naturalization.

Musk, for example, who allegedly worked illegally on a student visa and has publicly discussed his use of illegal drugs, could theoretically face scrutiny over the legality of his path to citizenship under a strict interpretation of the rules. Another famous potential target: Prince Harry, who has been attacked by the conservative Heritage Foundation over his own immigration process and use of illicit drugs.

“I wouldn’t protect him,” Trump said of the prince in February. “He would be on his own if it was down to me.”

In 2016, before Trump won his first presidential election, an internal Department of Homeland Security (DHS) watchdog found 315,000 fingerprint files for immigrants who had been deported or convicted of crimes had not been uploaded to a database that crosschecks immigrant applicants’ identities.

Among those 315,000 files, officials found that only 858 people had been ordered deported but had successfully applied for citizenship under a different identity.

Despite the low incidence of fraud, even in a list of deportees and convicts, the first Trump administration channeled significant resources away from processing new applications and toward digging for dirt in old files.

In fiscal 2019, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) pulled more than $200 million from processing to fund “Operation Second Look” and “Operation Janus,” the Obama-era initiative born out of the internal report highlighting the fingerprint database.

And organizations such as the American Civil Liberties Union warned the denaturalization force was likely to discourage some eligible legal permanent residents from seeking naturalization.

“I think what we’re going to see in the second Trump administration is a continuation of attempts that started the first administration to cut legal immigration through various means, we’re likely to be surprised at some of the actions, but I think the overall goal will be to have less legal immigration, and over the course of the coming decades, that could even be felt,” said Anderson.”

“But in the more immediate term, you’re likely to see a lot of disappointed Americans who are looking to sponsor loved ones, you’re going to see some disappointed employers, and you’re very likely to see American consumers not able to get some of the services they want to be provided, being provided for them,” he added.

While denaturalizations are unlikely to have a demographic impact by themselves, some economists fear reduced immigration could slow the broader economy.

Because of the dual impact of coronavirus and restrictive policies on immigration between 2016 and 2022, GDP growth in 2022 was an estimated 1.3 percentage points lower than it would have been, according to an NFAP study by economist Madeline Zavodny.

Many economists fear a second Trump administration will enact restrictive policies and reassign resources away from servicing applications, stunting labor force growth — a major factor in broader economic growth.

“Historically, we have had a growing labor force almost throughout all of American history that has contributed to the fast, rapid economic growth in the United States. And if you remove a major source of that labor growth, whether it’s undocumented workers or legal immigrants, you’re going to likely slow down the overall growth rate,” said Robert Lynch, professor of economics at Washington College.
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Oh, no! People who broke the law will face consequences! Oh, no! The slave labor the Democrats hold so dear is going away! Shucks! Damn sucks!
 
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Uncle Buck said:
In effect they've made her part and parcel of the race-hustling conspiracy to turn what should never have been more than a thirty-second local news item into a worldwide media circus that some people consider the first public instance of what is known colloquially as "lawfare" [I submit that began with the OJ case and continued with the Clinton scandals and the creation of the Clinton Foundation, but your mileage may very] when, what is more likely, is that she knew what was coming and was trying to be mindful of all considerations.
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That case was 100% Barack Obama's fault. He made a national spectacle out of a case every competent attorney knew was self defense just so he could be the president who brought Emmit Till 2.0's killer to justice. He failed so he had to settle for empowering his fellow marxist nigger faggots to chimp out whenever one of the locals wins the ghetto lottery.

Looking back on that trial, it seemed like the only prosecutor who wanted to be there was the head DA who was sitting next to Trayboon's family crying and shit. The rest of them knew this was one of those situations where going along with it was better for your career than standing up and saying no.
 
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Oh, no! People who broke the law will face consequences! Oh, no! The slave labor the Democrats hold so dear is going away! Shucks! Damn sucks!
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“But in the more immediate term, you’re likely to see a lot of disappointed Americans who are looking to sponsor loved ones, you’re going to see some disappointed employers, and you’re very likely to see American consumers not able to get some of the services they want to be provided, being provided for them, **” he added.
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** : At below minimum wage.
 
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HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS said:
Trayvon trial was the best thing that has happened to america. It woke up many Americans from left victimhood narrative, myself included. If they shoved that trial into the bin, we'd talking about the POOR TRAYVON. Instead, we know he was a thug and the media lied.
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Young black hoodlums receive the wages of TNB all the time; something like a few dozen of them every weekend in Shitcongo... You'd have never heard about him - unless, perhaps, if you didn't live in the Miami Gardens area - if someone hadn't had a pre-determined narrative ready to go and was just waiting for the "right" sort of young black hoodlum to die - specifically one that died while engaged in the unprovoked assault on a "white" guy [latino, actually, and with a jewish surname] perceived to be a vigilante out to "get" those "niggers" who "always get away".
 
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Firemalzahn said:
The bots retards on twitter crying over gaetz withdrawing and because Jeb likes Bondi. These idiots are too stupid to realize
A) Bondi is a way better choice than Gaetz. She had Florida locked down and was so goddamn effective. Many wanted her to run for gov after Ron
B)Their boy rick scott picked her for ag
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I agree. I prefer my Deep State exterminator to be Jeb approved, have Florida locked down, and to run for election as well as Ron DeSantis does. I don't know anything about Rick Scott being anybody's boy. But, a man that makes his fortune on Medicare fraud, buys his way into politics, and then pushes a plan to end Medicare is a stamp of endorsement I highly prize.

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What failings? He got off and still continues to get seethe trantifa faggots ass blasted to fuck having meltdowns at him. Let me guess it is because the case was in court in the first place, and they think that it should not have gone to court. I really hate some of the people on our side, because of dumb shit like this.
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Pam Bondi should utilize her skills she gained from the Zimmerman case. Pay Rachael “that’s retarded sir” Jeantel to jetset around giving false witness to innocent men. That is the key to draining the swamp.
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HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS said:
Trayvon trial was the best thing that has happened to america. It woke up many Americans from left victimhood narrative, myself included. If they shoved that trial into the bin, we'd talking about the POOR TRAYVON. Instead, we know he was a thug and the media lied.
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The absolute dumbest part of the Zimmerman trial is they could have easily convicted him on manslaughter charges, but they went with murder 2 because they wanted to make a racial conflagration of the whole thing.
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I'm running with the "Democrats are defending modern slavery" argument because I've tried it a few times on people and it makes their fucking heads explode.
 
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Not Really Here said:
No, they couldn't. Martin was on top of him, slamming his head into a concrete sidewalk.
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If you want a serious answer from me: Florida does not have multiple categories of murder. They have first-degree murder, second-degree murder, and manslaughter. What Zimmerman did could fit into the definition of manslaughter, even with Florida's "stand your ground" laws. Those "stand your ground" laws are not an automatic defense and do not automatically dismiss manslaughter charges. The prosecution could have charged him with manslaughter and had a much easier case to win than second-degree murder.

Other posters in Florida with more legal experience than me can correct me on this if I'm wrong.

Personally, I think Zimmerman was a fucking idiot for leaving his house to go confront a stranger. Martin was a fucking idiot for attacking a stranger. When you put two fucking idiots in a violent situation, the result is usually bad. Neither of them ever learned the cardinal rule of violence: the best defense is avoiding the situation entirely.

All that said, the prosecution of Zimmerman was political. He was prosecuted by actors within the state government (and the federal government - the DoJ spent money on that case to support Martin's family) who wanted to make an example of him.

Does that make sense? Or are you not entertained?
 
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Hey Johnny Bravo said:
He was prosecuted by actors within the state government
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The fact he got off, and had a massive payday, over a few months sitting in a county jail. Proves that they are incompetent and constantly fuck up these supposed political prosecutions. They had the media on side in the case as well. CNN even whitened his skin up in the photos, and down played his Mexican name.
Looking back, they had the President Barry himself come out and say Martin was his son and they still fucked the case up and he walked. I sometimes think we overestimate how competent our enemy's are.
They seem to lose these big politically charged cases all the fucking time, yet they are treated like a bogeyman.
 
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