Weight loss support thread

[Brahma]

My zimbabwe dollar doesn't go anywhere near far enough to be able to afford steak everyday. Eggs I can manage and probably some chicken or something.

Can you cook?

Something like chuck/blade is a good profile of fat and protein., better than most cheap steak anyway. Slow cooked it's lovely, stew, borgignon, local equivalent etc. Throw in some organ meat while you're at it. I like to rough chop some kidneys and throw them in near the end, if they're overcooked they're rubbery, which is why I think more people don't like them, they've never had them properly booked.

 

[Derka Derka]

My zimbabwe dollar doesn't go anywhere near far enough to be able to afford steak everyday. Eggs I can manage and probably some chicken or something.

Depending on the time of the year, I mainly buy/eat ground beef in bulk (lately Costco) and make them into hamburger patties.

I also buy whole primal cuts, like rear sirloin, and have learned to cut them into individual portions.
When I buy other cuts bulk, and often at a very good discount, I will get a lot, vacuum seal in portions and freeze it.

Considering I eat practically nothing else (+butter & bacon), and stopped getting take out, my net grocery bills has actually gone down. Unlike when you buy veggies, nothing is thrown out. As you freeze what you wont be able to eat for the week.
I even manage to have a quality steak about once a week (or something like a whole Costco roasted chicken) for a bit of variety

Easy prep and cleanup ... I have a large cast iron pan, that takes 5 minutes to sear a hamburger, bacon or steak and some eggs.
Otherwise I fire up the pellet smoker on the weekend and smoke up/grill several days worth of meals

 

[Accept Only Substitutes]

I would like to know what you consider "low carb". - If you are diabetic, you are basically unable to tolerate carbohydrates, so you need to eliminate them from your diet. I suspect you are probably eating things you think are "low GI" and confusing that with "low carb".

Less than fifty grams a day, as close to zero as possible. I ate nothing but beef and eggs for two weeks one round. I eat lots of meat and eggs even when I eat more low-carb vegetables. I've done keto, even did Atkins decades ago. I weigh my non-bbbe foods, track them in carb manager. I've tried watching carbs and calories, I've watched my carbs and my fat, I've eaten lots of fatty meat and almost no carbs, I've tried not watching calories at all - just carbs, I've tried eating some low carb vegetables (mostly cabbage) but mostly beef or chicken, I've eaten nothing but chicken and eggs. I've ditched my diet coke, I've drank lots of it, I drink roughly a gallon of water a day most days. I watch my seasonings for sugar. I don't use a lot of salt, because food tastes too salty very quickly because I've never really salted my food.

I did have a few grams of carbs in my coffee creamer (I've now switched to heavy cream, then I'm going to work my way down to black), and any fillers in my meds which I can't control. But never more than 20 grams a day on my last few go rounds.

I never got into ketosis according to urine strips (I can't afford the blood meter and strips), but I did develop dka at one point and had to go to the hospital because low carb and my diabetes drug at the time don't play well together. That's not an issue now.

I am starting to think it's going to take longer for me to get into ketosis because of insulin resistance/other metabolic issues. Maybe I need to add exercise to my routine to get into ketosis. I don't know, maybe I'm full of shit about all that. I haven't committed to carnivore for a full month, I get discouraged after a couple weeks of no real improvement in glucose levels, no weight loss (or worse, weight gain), and let my addiction win. That's probably my first step: commitment to one thing and don't let my addiction win.

I no longer crave sweet foods, if I do eat them I regret it because they're all too sweet. It's not hard to avoid them anymore.

I fast until noon or later most days, I only have either one or two meals a day. I try not to eat after seven pm.

I'm very frustrated. When I lost weight last time I did low calorie, and dropped weight super easily.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

How the hell do I lose 20-30lbs as quickly and cleanly as possible? I got a big formal event coming up in like 5 months and I NEED to fit in my suit.

 

[Derka Derka]

How the hell do I lose 20-30lbs as quickly and cleanly as possible? I got a big formal event coming up in like 5 months and I NEED to fit in my suit.

Extended fasting and calorie restrictions.

It's the gold standard for weight loss in third world shit holes

 

[Accept Only Substitutes]

Okay so I did some research into not getting into ketosis on carnivore.

I was apparently right about exercising being an important part. I've exercised every day this week, so I'm making progress there. Going to keep that up regardless of anything else.

Diabetes and antipsychotics can make it harder to get into ketosis, I'm both diabetic and on antipsychotics and antidepressants and mood stabilizers although my dose on most of the psych drugs has been lowered from the last time I seriously gave this a try. Maybe that will help.

They also suggested I might not be getting enough fat and/or too much protein.

I have holiday and birthday events during the next two weeks. I'm going to focus on doing the best I can inside those social commitments, carb manager is already set up to ease me into carnivore. After the first week of December I'll experiment with the protein and fat macros, keep on exercising and see what happens. I need a plan for addiction management and dealing with disappointment in a non-self-destructive way. I'll do some research on that.

I'm also told being deficient in magnesium can affect blood glucose levels, so I've started to supplement with that at night. I recently started cpap therapy again, but after taking the magnesium I'm getting much better rest than with cpap alone, as well as having more vivid dreams.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

@Accept Only Substitutes
Thanks for your detailed responses. It's clear you have severe metabolic disorder.
I think your diabetes medication is a big part of why you are having difficulty with losing fat. I suspect it is taking every tiny bit of glucose in your bloodstream and pushing it into your fat cells.

Check out the Low Carb Down Under YT channel. They address the issue of severe metabolic disorder in detail.

 

[Accept Only Substitutes]

@Accept Only Substitutes
Thanks for your detailed responses. It's clear you have severe metabolic disorder.
I think your diabetes medication is a big part of why you are having difficulty with losing fat. I suspect it is taking every tiny bit of glucose in your bloodstream and pushing it into your fat cells.

Check out the Low Carb Down Under YT channel. They address the issue of severe metabolic disorder in detail.

I will, thanks. I believe you are correct about the medication.

 

[Doktor Grimm]

This is kind of the opposite of what this thread is intended for, but I'm not sure where else I'd put it. I guess I do need "weight loss support" in a sense.

So, about a year back, I decided that I wanted to lose weight. Not that I was ever FAT, mind you, but I'd put on a decent amount over the previous winter and wanted to take control of my eating habits before I gained any more, so I started lowering my carb intake and limiting myself to 1500-ish calories daily. My plan for sticking to the diet was dead simple -- I just delayed my breakfast by an hour or two every morning, ate a very light lunch (if I ate lunch at all), and refrained from snacking during the rest of the day. It worked splendidly and I started thinning out right away.

I was still on this routine right up until a few days ago, when someone at a party commented that I was looking a little gaunt. When I got home, I weighed myself for the first time in a while, and was surprised to discover that I'm now a mere 115 pounds which, at 5' 7 1/2", puts me squarely into underweight territory. Although I feel totally fine, I'm aware this might not be the best for my long-term health. Can anyone ITT recommend a diet for weight gain which doesn't involve stuffing myself with junk and won't leave me feeling bloated? I need to put some meat on them bones.

Minor update on this. Thanks to those of you who suggested I monitor my protein intake -- as it turns out, I wasn't getting quite enough of anything from my previous diet. I started aiming for 80-90g daily (which felt like an utterly insane amount to keep up with at first) and it's done wonders in keeping my energy levels stable. Still trying to keep carbs down to the best of my ability, too.

The bad news is that I haven't gained any weight -- in fact, I've actually dropped another five pounds since July, despite going back to eating three square meals a day and snacking probably more than I should. Maybe I just have a crazy fast metabolism, but I'm beginning to suspect there's something going on here beyond me not eating enough, especially since I've been experiencing an array of other weird symptoms over the last few months. I'll definitely have to see an expert about this one.

 

[dick brain]

How the hell do I lose 20-30lbs as quickly and cleanly as possible? I got a big formal event coming up in like 5 months and I NEED to fit in my suit.

Fast.

I lost 20lbs in four weeks just doing 96hr fasts with 72hr refeeds. Currently doing a 10day but haven't weighed myself since I started. You can reasonably expect to lose 0.5-1lb/day once you enter ketosis.

Fasting gets a bad rap because people associate it with anorexia or breatharianism or other mentally ill bullshit, but it's genuinely really good for you if you're not a retard about it. There's a reason every major religion recommends it.

QRD:

 

[Total Annihilation]

I've found swimming to be quite a good way to build up muscle and help with my weight. I've been bad about changing my diet habits and such. However by swimming twice a week for 45 minutes or so at a lap pool, I've been able to maintain my weight, while gaining strength and feeling miles better mentally!

 

[Mr. 0]

I've found swimming to be quite a good way to build up muscle and help with my weight. I've been bad about changing my diet habits and such. However by swimming twice a week for 45 minutes or so at a lap pool, I've been able to maintain my weight, while gaining strength and feeling miles better mentally!

if you continue on this path to normalcy and happiness we will put a sonichu medallion on you

and drag you back to kiwi farms kicking and screaming (while being recorded) as we put you back on the chris chan exercise plan

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

Fast.

I lost 20lbs in four weeks just doing 96hr fasts with 72hr refeeds. Currently doing a 10day but haven't weighed myself since I started. You can reasonably expect to lose 0.5-1lb/day once you enter ketosis.

Fasting gets a bad rap because people associate it with anorexia or breatharianism or other mentally ill bullshit, but it's genuinely really good for you if you're not a retard about it. There's a reason every major religion recommends it.

QRD:

Very stupid question. but how do I deal with feeling hungry on a fast?

 

[Brahma]

Very stupid question. but how do I deal with feeling hungry on a fast?

Drink a lot of water, ideally with salt/electrolytes

Plan your day around it.

htfu

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Very stupid question. but how do I deal with feeling hungry on a fast?

Water. Maybe with some salt. Lots of fucking water.

And then keep yourself busy and distracted.

 

[bile demon]

Very stupid question. but how do I deal with feeling hungry on a fast?

It's not hunger, it's just a pathological need for stimulation which your stomach is used to after being given food multiple times a day for decades. Do not try to trick tour stomach by forcing yourself to drink more water than demanded by thirst. Simply persist and the "hunger" will vanish after around 3 days. The desire to eat will not return until your body's energy reservers have been exhausted, after which true hunger will be felt, not in the stomach but in the mouth, not a painful and gnawing feeling but a pleasant one. The average American has not felt genuine hunger in his entire life.

Fasting is perhaps the most powerful tool in both prevention and treatment of any acute and chronic disease available to man and animal as well as in maintenance of health and wellbeing. For anyone who's interested in reading more about the subject, I highly recommend any of Herbert Shelton's books.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

It's not hunger, it's just a pathological need for stimulation which your stomach is used to after being given food multiple times a day for decades. Do not try to trick tour stomach by forcing yourself to drink more water then demanded by thirst. Simply persist and the "hunger" will vanish after around 3 days. The desire to eat will not return until your body's energy reservers have been exhausted, after which true hunger will be felt, not in the stomach but in the mouth, not a painful and gnawing feeling but a pleasant one. The average American has not felt genuine hunger in his entire life.

Fasting is perhaps the most powerful tool in both prevention and treatment of any acute and chronic disease available to man and animal as well as in maintenance of health and wellbeing. For anyone who's interested in reading more about the subject, I highly recommend any of Herbert Shelton's books.

So should I not eat for 3 days?

 

[Iron Jaguar]

It's not hunger, it's just a pathological need for stimulation which your stomach is used to after being given food multiple times a day for decades

Exactly right. Obese people are not "hungry"; they are simply accustomed to feeling full at all times and their brain has been rewired to signal that there's something wrong when they don't feel that way. I believe it has to do with ghrelin.

Simply persist and the "hunger" will vanish after around 3 days.

Even intermittent fasting works this way. It takes a little while to get used to not eating for 14-16 hours overnight but after a couple of weeks your brain adjusts and your stomach shrinks.

So should I not eat for 3 days?

No. Work up to that, if you wish to. I would recommend starting with a daily 8hr/16hr eating/fasting window.

 

[Derka Derka]

Exactly right. Obese people are not "hungry"; they are simply accustomed to feeling full at all times and their brain has been rewired to signal that there's something wrong when they don't feel that way. I believe it has to do with ghrelin.

There is a hormonal factor in the form of increased ghrelin (and impaired leptin) and your body inducing hypoglycemia. The latter is caused by a life of frequently consuming carbs, and is a withdrawal symptom (not to dissimilar to drug withdrawals)

Reduce carbs and increase saturated fats, until you don't feel the hunger shakes. This will reduce the amount of ghrelin in the bloodstream in the period after you eat.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

Can I switch my diet to a mainly soup based one? For the context I'm not a fat fuck but I NEED to lose 15-25 lbs