US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Kovachs]

Hardly misogyny; I'm letting pattern recognition and experience get the best of me.

I've had over a dozen jobs with female bosses, and it has always been other women who gave them the most grief. Men really don't care, so long as the boss is competent at the job. But women will absolutely start getting catty and accusing any female manager of sleeping her way to promotion or worse.

School was even more obvious, female teachers hate each other and really, really despise a female principal or superintendent. That's why the principal is almost always a male, usually a former coach, even in a school where 99% of teachers are female. College was no different.

Even in my own family, I see women tearing down other women whenever they can, especially someone's wife or a mother-in-law. If they're female and not blood, women will find a reason to hate them and assume the worst of their intentions by default. Not every single time, but it's a clear pattern.

Case in point: One day a few years ago I find a large silver lab retriever on my porch, hungry and panting, so I feed it and let it stay inside that night because coyotes are around. Days later, Marla, a girl I went to school with (several grades below me in age) shows up knocking at my door. Apparently Marla lost her dog and it ended up at my house somehow, miles from home. She drove around town and a neighbor said she saw it on my porch.

So, she was grateful, took the dog home and the next day Marla shows up and gives me a cake and ice cream to show her appreciation for taking care of the dog.

That evening my cousin Stephanie, who went to school with Marla, calls me up bitching a fit over her. Apparently after taking the dog, she had put up some post on Facebook (which I'm not on) thanking me for taking care of the dog and wanted everyone to know about it.

My cousin then proceeds to go on this whole huge rant about how Marla was a bitch in school and she just got divorced and she probably dropped that dog off at my house just to have an excuse to flirt with me and post about it to get attention. And she bought that cake because she can cook either!

Women are insane.

You say its just pattern recognition, but you're saying women are insane. Factually, you are wrong. Women actually perform better than men in elections, especially among Independents and Democrat voters. You guys say all this shit, but there are many women currently in various elected positions already that are extremely popular.

This is something that you guys are pulling out of your ass. The reason why Kamala Harris did poorly was not because she was a woman and other women are just so jealous that they didn't vote for her. The gender of a candidate has a marginal effect on their chances of winning in running for office, and the effect that it does have actually favors women over men.

 

[Dr J]

So, she was grateful, took the dog home and the next day Marla shows up and gives me a cake and ice cream to show her appreciation for taking care of the dog.

Marla sounds really sweet

Your cousin sounds insane

 

[draggs]

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5005119-senate-blocks-promotion-general/

https://archive.ph/leUp1

“Lt. Gen. Donahue is a graduate of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point and has served his country for more than thirty years,” said Pentagon spokesman James Adams. His appointment comes at an extremely critical time in the European region. We urge the Senate to confirm all of our highly qualified nominees. Holds on our nominees undermine our military readiness.”

The purge of the Pentagon can't come fast enough. Anyone colonel or above involved in the Afghanistan fiasco who can't deliver a damn good explanation for why he or she shouldn't be fucking cashiered should be fucking cashiered

And there should be approximately 0 Pentagon spokespeople. The military has no place making public comments on the decisions of the civilian leadership, whether it be decisions of the DoD, the White House, or the Congress. But muh Trump is going to put the military in politics! Bitch ass niggerfaggot the military is already in politics with bullshit like this and it should get a slap across the face and told to shut up and soldier, soldier

 

[pwnest injun]

Women actually perform better than men in elections, especially among Independents and Democrat voters

The fantasy:


The reality:


Potus isn't just any political position. It is singular, and we have a very open record of elections.

 

[Dr J]

Women actually perform better than men in elections, especially among Independents and Democrat voters.

Which elections? Midterms or presidential? Also, a lot of Democrat voters are women. This would belie that women hate women, but not that the vast majority of voters don't want to see a woman President.

 

[Overly Serious]

Is there any woman in the DNC at this point that isn't a Hillary Clinton, or a Kamala Harris; or both? None come to mind.

There's one called Tulsi Gabbard... I wonder what happened to her.

EDIT: Fuck, ninja'd.

 

[mlanguishi]

@WhiskeyJack Nice story bro but did you at least get any Marla tail?

 

[WelperHelper99]

The fantasy:
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The reality:
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Potus isn't just any political position. It is singular, and we have a very open record of elections.

Gonna be real, the only point the US is going to break its 47 president streak of male presidents is when you can show a woman that doesn't use the woman card as a reason to vote for her. She actually has a track record and gets shit done. She didn't need to suck cock to rise through the ranks.

 

[trent]

Gonna be real, the only point the US is going to break its 47 president streak of male presidents is when you can show a woman that doesn't use the woman card as a reason to vote for her. She actually has a track record and gets shit done. She didn't need to suck cock to rise through the ranks.

It's going to take a no-nonsense, anti-trans, obvious dyke who rolls her eyes every time someone brings up how great it is that she represents the LGBTQ+ community.

You know, an actual lesbian.

 

[Rudolf's Friend]

The fantasy:
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The reality:
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Potus isn't just any political position. It is singular, and we have a very open record of elections.

Honestly this race should have been a big indicator as to the kind of bullshit they were going to pull in 2020. Joe’s campaign was quiet and had very little support up until Super Tuesday when Joe somehow won a bunch of delegates. Watching the Yang Gang fags go quiet after he dropped out was fun to watch though after they spammed 4chan for months (barring an interruption from Christchurch where after they never had the same amount of power)

 

[the printer is outo fink]

That, and the MSM has been pretty much going to town on her ever since trump picked her because of "muh russia"

The main reason they are going to town on her so hard is because out of all the prominent female US politicians right now, she's the one that has the best chance of becoming the first woman president (and she's 'not white'). It scares the shit out of them that Tulsi, as a Republican, could take that mantle. Many of the people they are trying to blast for being racist misogynists who'd never vote for a poc woman, outright state they'd vote for Tulsi. Tulsi proves their lie, she shows Kamala up as a terrible choice rather than the electorate as the knuckledraggers they are trying to claim them as. And it shows them up as liars that they chased her out of their party when they are supposed to uplift poc women so much.

 

[Harvey Danger]

You guys say all this shit, but there are many women currently in various elected positions already that are extremely popular.

Yeah, and I've voted for some of them. But there's a difference between positions; a legislator is not a governor, a senator is not a President. And women don't like other women as leaders. They have to be bribed or brought into an emotional party platform to go along with one, a specialty of "Vote Blue No Matter Who" Democrats.

Spoiler: #NotAllWomanPoliticians

There are exceptions; I would actually say Hilary Clinton was one. She was a feminist power icon in the 90s and--to be blunt--did her politicking like a man. There was a legitimate attachment to her from 2nd and 3rd wave feminists when she ran in 2016... but she had too much baggage to ride a "sisterhood" wave to victory. Ultimately she turned into an Us vs Them campaign against Trump, and for all the "I'm With Her" babbling everyone knows it's dangerous to be an Us with a Clinton.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

That article about the Democrat party was written last August but boy, it aged like milk in the aftermath of Trump re-election.

https://rollcall.com/2024/08/19/still-your-fathers-and-grandfathers-democratic-party/

https://archive.ph/LQzUI

About a month ago I looked at how the Republican Party had changed, in terms of its values agenda and tone. Well, the Democratic Party has changed as well, though not nearly as much.

The Democratic Party has for decades advocated progressive values — racial equality, economic opportunity, social tolerance, women’s and LBGTQ+ rights, and multiculturalism.

Not surprisingly then, the party’s issue agenda has invariably included civil rights, environmental protection, gay rights, increased spending on domestic programs, tax reform, protecting health care and Social Security, affirmative action, and what has become known as reproductive rights.

 

[Kovachs]

Yeah, and I've voted for some of them. But there's a difference between positions; a legislator is not a governor, a senator is not a President. And women don't like other women as leaders. They have to be bribed or brought into an emotional party platform to go along with one, a specialty of "Vote Blue No Matter Who" Democrats.

Spoiler: #NotAllWomanPoliticians

There are exceptions; I would actually say Hilary Clinton was one. She was a feminist power icon in the 90s and--to be blunt--did her politicking like a man. There was a legitimate attachment to her from 2nd and 3rd wave feminists when she ran in 2016... but she had too much baggage to ride a "sisterhood" wave to victory. Ultimately she turned into an Us vs Them campaign against Trump, and for all the "I'm With Her" babbling everyone knows it's dangerous to be an Us with a Clinton.

Personally I think it's asinine to attribute hatred of women by women as an explanation for disparate outcomes in presidential elections, rather than the fact that the candidates who are women that have ran were not particularly well-liked for reasons that had little to do with being a woman. The problem is that you've already arrive at the conclusion that this is why you can't run a female candidate, but haven't at all established that as a matter of fact. You cannot just assume that disparate outcomes are the result of sexism or racism. It's stupid when leftists use it to call cops racist, and it's just as stupid here. It's the exact same fallacy.

 

[God's drunkest driver]

The main reason they are going to town on her so hard is because out of all the prominent female US politicians right now, she's the one that has the best chance of becoming the first woman president (and she's 'not white'). It scares the shit out of them that Tulsi, as a Republican, could take that mantle. Many of the people they are trying to blast for being racist misogynists who'd never vote for a poc woman, outright state they'd vote for Tulsi. Tulsi proves their lie, she shows Kamala up as a terrible choice rather than the electorate as the knuckledraggers they are trying to claim them as. And it shows them up as liars that they chased her out of their party when they are supposed to uplift poc women so much.

At this point it's probably more likely that the first Female president would be a Republican than a Democrat, because the Democrats have fallen for the old focus group trap. So many competing special social justice interests that you have to tick a bunch of irrelevant boxes to be "the one" when there are only two things that are truly important:

• Be likeable
• Give people the impression that you could do the job

Hilary gave the second to many voters but nobody who wasn't completely deluded found her likeable, and Kamala was as hateable as Hilary and had none of her experience. And what are their other big options that fit the minority democrat woman mold? Oprah? A mostly out of the public eye billionaire who can't even pretend to be relatable middle class like Kamala? Obama? She doesn't seem to want to run and has less qualification than even Kamala or Trump. She'd be a complete nobody if not married to Barack.

 

[raspberry mocha]

So what mystery Hawaiian spam is Tulsi Gabbard again? Is she part Samoan?

 

[Not Really Here]

The gender of a candidate has a marginal effect on their chances of winning in running for office, and the effect that it does have actually favors women over men.

There are exceptions; I would actually say Hilary Clinton was one. She was a feminist power icon in the 90s and--to be blunt--did her politicking like a man. There was a legitimate attachment to her from 2nd and 3rd wave feminists when she ran in 2016... but she had too much baggage to ride a "sisterhood" wave to victory.

They actually made a genderflipped debate between Trump and Clinton, and the results were that Trump scored much higher, and Clinton much lower, in a crowd of academics.

Based on the conversations after the performances, it sounded like audience members had their beliefs rattled in a similar way. What were some themes that emerged from their responses?

We heard a lot of “now I understand how this happened”—meaning how Trump won the election. People got upset. There was a guy two rows in front of me who was literally holding his head in his hands, and the person with him was rubbing his back. The simplicity of Trump’s message became easier for people to hear when it was coming from a woman—that was a theme. One person said, “I’m just so struck by how precise Trump’s technique is.” Another—a musical theater composer, actually—said that Trump created “hummable lyrics,” while Clinton talked a lot, and everything she was was true and factual, but there was no “hook” to it. Another theme was about not liking either candidate—you know, “I wouldn’t vote for either one.” Someone said that Jonathan Gordon [the male Hillary Clinton] was “really punchable” because of all the smiling. And a lot of people were just very surprised by the way it upended their expectations about what they thought they would feel or experience. There was someone who described Brenda King [the female Donald Trump] as his Jewish aunt who would take care of him, even though he might not like his aunt. Someone else described her as the middle school principal who you don’t like, but you know is doing good things for you.

Source/Archive
Debate-

 

[Wimbydong]

And he will likely have momentum after re winning his Senate seat in 2026. And if Dems gain control of the Ga Governors seat in 2026 its not going to go blue.

Ossoff is up in '26, not Warnock. Though both are strong Democratic candidates that I can very easily see either/both gunning for the White House. Only thing that gives me pause is that Dems would have to fight to keep their seat blue.

 

[Dr J]

At this point it's probably more likely that the first Female president would be a Republican than a Democrat, because the Democrats have fallen for the old focus group trap. So many competing special social justice interests that you have to tick a bunch of irrelevant boxes to be "the one" when there are only two things that are truly important:

• Be likeable
• Give people the impression that you could do the job

Hilary gave the second to many voters but nobody who wasn't completely deluded found her likeable, and Kamala was as hateable as Hilary and had none of her experience. And what are their other big options that fit the minority democrat woman mold? Oprah? A mostly out of the public eye billionaire who can't even pretend to be relatable middle class like Kamala? Obama? She doesn't seem to want to run and has less qualification than even Kamala or Trump. She'd be a complete nobody if not married to Barack.

Honestly, the first woman President is going to be Republican for one of two reasons. Either she's going to be a Thatcheresque Iron Lady. Or else she's going to be hot, and the Democrats have a pathological loathing of attractive women (see: how they treated Tulsi).

And if you don't think the voters are going to go for a woman just because she's attractive, just look up north. Canada has been brought to ruin because women voters thought Castro Jr was hot

 

[Sekirodiealot]

Am I the only who can't take the phrase MAGA seriously anymore cause of leftists using it like it's an insult? And why do they pretend to care about tarriffs while ignoring Biden fucking the economy up? Where was the energy then?