US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[RybenZ999]

Not exactly a fan but whatever.

 

[Betonhaus]

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Not exactly a fan but whatever.

he seems sufficiently normal

 

[just Reading a post]

That makes me lol. That whore spent $1.2 billion on marketing and a homo like Scott beat her by going door to door and being a nice guy to turn Amish pro-Trump. What a year this is.

That is exactly what Brandon Harrera did as well. He only lost by a small margin, and his opponent blew millions and had astroturf help. They almost lost to a shitposting gun youtuber. This isn't your daddy's political landscape anymore.

 

[Dr J]

Remember he blamed Biden and Kamala for Laken Riley.

Yeah, he's a saboteur, but the Democrats have to wheel him out because he was the last good Democrat President

 

[Ethereal Eye]

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Wouldnt this just be a piece of proof that Trump is actually moderate rather than a far right nazi? Lmao

 

[trent]

And top of it all, dat Harris bitch ain't been seen this whole time since. She vanished, poof. Worse than she did during the campaign. Nothing!

It fucking crazy how her and Tim Walz just disappeared entirely a couple of days after they lost. No post election interviews. The lefty media didn't write any breakdowns of what went wrong.

Nothing. Just memory holed after running a failed $1bn+ campaign.

 

[Overly Serious]

the quarter mile is not for physical fitness but to measure the strength of desire. If you don't care too much you won't walk the quarter mile. but I suppose there could be a better way to measure how invested someone is in the results.

If you're trying to measure how invested someone is in the outcome of an election then introducing physical impediments is a terrible metric. And I'd have to ask if your tests would be absolute or weighted? I.e. are you going to ask the same bench press minimum of a 64 year old as a 22 year old? Will you require the same 400m time from women as from men? This is a non-starter.

If you want to filter for investment in outcome then you need to identify some objective criteria based on what would indicate actual investment such as: Only Property Owners or Only Married People with Children.

Or you need to go the Starship Troopers route and say "Service guarantees citizenship" and put some kind of national service (not necessarily military) as a path to earned full rights as a citizen. So enlist or spend a year helping build infrastructure or serving in the police or something. But it has to have an actual personal cost to the prospective citizen and must be separable from having money.

You want to ensure people are only voting who have an investment in the outcome, don't put barbells outside of polling centres. Start with enfranchisement.

 

[Gehenna]

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It is interesting that you can actually see the exact point they cheat. Defenders will point tot he fact Trump also has vertical jumps at the exact same point but this misses the forest for the trees. The sheer discrepancy of amount is beyond stupid. That would be the point that mail-in ballots are counted and everyone is supposed to just believe that 9 to 1 of them went to Harris. 90%. All to one candidate.

This is simply unbelievable.


Roughly its guessed that sent out mail in ballots are at -worst- 2-1 by party registration. Meaning that somehow either only a fourth of Republicans bothered to fill in a ballot they had to specifically request, or... somehow Democrats "just had more".

Which is hilarious because none of his companies have many H-1Bs (with the exception of Twitter because everyone who wasn't dependent on visa sponsorship quit after he bought it). 90% of visas go to computer occupations, i.e. not mechanical or aerospace engineers (and it is illegal for SpaceX to hire non-citizens for national security reasons).

Tesla has 121,000 employees (peaked at 140k before layoffs) but only ~1400 of them are on H-1B visas.

Elon's love for immigration is literally just "I am an immigrant and I am good therefore all other immigrants must also be good".

https://www.ndtv.com/feature/elon-musk-slams-ridiculously-slow-and-difficult-us-immigration-system-7081888

Huh, rare for me to agree with Musk on this. It'll be very interesting how he plans to streamline the immigration system so that potential new legal immigrants won't have to jump so many hoops to become US Citizens.

Musk supports, as far as I know, a simplifying and streamlining of an honestly overly burdensome and insane immigration process on one end, and a massive crackdown and securing of the border on the other. Effectively, carrot and stick.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

Look at the corpse Jimmy Carter, they said it was his dream to vote for Harris. Someone obviously filled out his vote and mailed or whatever on that. Just insane.

I wonder if anyone bothered to tell him Kamala lost...

 

[♦️ King of Diamonds ♦️]

I honestly don't think mass deportations, even if the military goes door-to-door to enforce it, are going to fix the bonkers-beyond-belief problem of illegal immigration. Massive illegal immigration from Latin America has been a significant national security issue that our government has been completely ignoring like an ostrich in the sand since, what, the 1930's at the very least? This issue is cataclysmically awful for the US and I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when I hear people say it's really not a big deal at all. Deportations, while a nice step, are just like throwing buckets of water out of the hull of a sinking ship. You need to plug the holes- and that doesn't just mean border security.

The biggest instigator of the problem of illegal immigration in the US is the fact that you have so many grubby little megacorporations salivate over the idea of getting away with paying El Salvadorians and shit slave labor wages of $2 a day and not have to give them any benefits whatsoever like health insurance like they would have to do if they hired US citizens. So these slimy megacorps use their influence to lobby politicians, regardless of party, to resist and bite against any semblance of enforcing immigration law already on the books.

I think you'd see some real change of the IRS started going medieval on companies that hire illegal immigants to the point companies run the risk of committing financial seppuku by hiring illegals- especially if criminal charges are levied against the corporate executives and leadership of said companies. Also- write up some laws requiring money-wiring services like Western Union, WalMart Money Transfer, and Moneygram to have solid proof of US citizenship before you can send a haypenny overseas- most illegal immigrants simply can't own bank accounts due to the fact they require a SSN but get around it by using wire transfer services like these to send tons of money to relatives south of the border. Something akin to 30% of all revenues of the Mexican government comes from said remittances- I'd say that alone would get the Federales a bit more motivated to sort their shit out.

 

[Big Nasty]

Lanky Fabio homosexual got them fired up enough to drop their barn-raising and butter-churning and take the wagon ride over to the polling sites.

There's only one word that accurately describes this kind of happening:

AMERICA

 

[Irene and 22 others]

But that doesn’t matter. Because my vote can be canceled out by a retarded woman who gets the ick from a candidate or votes purely on abortion.

I don't think people have realized that new reality. Multiple states had ballot measures on abortion this year and 4 states passed some form of ballot measure related to abortion rights that went Republican. Florida would have also passed a measure if they used the same 50% threshold as other states but they require 60% to pass a measure and only got 57% of the vote.

A lot of women (or even some men) have figured out that they can vote for abortion without voting Democrat now and I think that will become a major issue for Democrats if they continue to embrace the insane gender ideology of the far left. Abortion as a national campaign issue will become further irrelevant over the next four years and almost completely irrelevant by 2032. Meanwhile tranny shit will become a bigger issue and no one like them.

Tariffs work, provided you know what you want to achieve. A strong global economy? Mayhaps not. A strong National economy? Absolutely yes.

For some industries they're almost necessary as environmental laws that US manufacturers have to follow make it impossible for us to compete with other countries even if they weren't using practical slave labor. Really the only group of people who you will never convince are the pure free market fundamentalists who will just shrug their shoulders and state that if some other country wants to destroy their rivers or make their citizens subsidize cheap goods it's no skin off our backs and we should buy as much of that as we can while finding other things for our workers to do. This works in theory if you're willing to find something for all of the displaced labor to do, but as we say from NAFTA no one was willing to do that on the scale necessary to prevent the problems caused from it.

If it was anyone but Trump, it would have been a sure fire Harris victory.

I'm not sure if this is true. There are still a contingent of people who despise Trump so much that they would never vote for him. The problem Republicans have and still have is that they haven't realized that the Republican party that put Bush in office is just as, if not more, reviled to some people than Trump ever was and that they party needed to change in some way to be able to win national elections. I don't think there was a suitable substitute for Trump this election cycle, but Harris was awful and I think would have looked even worse had she debated against a generic Republican that's still sucking off the neocons.

Going forward, Vance has a major opportunity to expand on what Trump has started and can attract independent voters who decided either not to vote or to vote against Trump more than vote for Harris. The neoconservative movement is dying off and will be replaced by a new sort of Republican party that can appeal to contingents of voters who previously pulled the lever for Democrats.

 

[The Ugly One]

Unlike Hillary, the conditions for Kamala being the nominee were only there because of her sex and race. Whatever you think about Hillary, she’s a very accomplished individual who acheieved a lot of what she has today because of meritocracy. This is also true of her husband. None of them wouldn’t gotten this far in life if they didn’t cunningly climb their way to the top.

Hillary was handed her Senate seat on a platter and accomplished nothing of note while holding it. As SoS, which was again a kickback position for her, she was completely incompetent. Her only skill was laundering bribes, and even then, it wasn't so much that she was good at it as she relied on non-enforcement by the Swamp.

 

[Dr J]

accomplished nothing of note while holding it.

That's not true at all, she managed to vote for the Iraq War and the Patriot Act

 

[UnidentifiedFlyingOrchid]

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It's too bad the Senate race didn't clear that hurdle.

@Gehenna

Spoiler: Gehenna

It is interesting that you can actually see the exact point they cheat. Defenders will point tot he fact Trump also has vertical jumps at the exact same point but this misses the forest for the trees. The sheer discrepancy of amount is beyond stupid. That would be the point that mail-in ballots are counted and everyone is supposed to just believe that 9 to 1 of them went to Harris. 90%. All to one candidate.

This is simply unbelievable.


Roughly its guessed that sent out mail in ballots are at -worst- 2-1 by party registration. Meaning that somehow either only a fourth of Republicans bothered to fill in a ballot they had to specifically request, or... somehow Democrats "just had more".

My first post in this thread was sperging about Milwaukee voting shenanigans.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

I know we have seen at least two well publicized murders as a result of the election, the Minnesota one and Blue Origin tranny. Any suicides yet (not with murder)? Or will they/them start to kick the bucket around Inauguration?

 

[Nuns with guns]

The lefty media didn't write any breakdowns of what went wrong.

Nigger, have you been living under a rock? It’s all we’ve posted in A&N. Most articles have been blaming everything but Kamala (so cope), but insofar a few of them have been critical and even leftist media has criticized her spending of 1.8 billion dollars.

 

[verissimus]

There are two major reasons to use tariffs, protectionist (which is Trump's primary focus), and putative (the secondary focus).

How is it not the other way around? What business and/or industry exactly does Trump want to economically protect and from whom?

See the following for example : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpALVkRGW1Y

Even in the case of the auto-motive industry, Trump says he doesn't care if a particular company is foreign or not as long as they make cars here and hire workers here, and f they don't do that, he'll put tariffs on cars made overseas.

 

[Nuns with guns]

Hillary was handed her Senate seat on a platter and accomplished nothing of note while holding it. As SoS, which was again a kickback position for her, she was completely incompetent. Her only skill was laundering bribes, and even then, it wasn't so much that she was good at it as she relied on non-enforcement by the Swamp.

I’m not talking about what she did or didn’t do as a politician. Her family wasn’t super rich and neither Bill’s family. They killed, cheated, and who knows what else they did to climb to the top, but they did it using their brains. Now they own the very evil Clinton foundation which wouldn’t have been possible if they weren’t the real life Macbeths.

 

[The Ugly One]

The right has no real hope of seeing change that REALLY needs to take place because everyone is so goddamn liberal they can’t imagine sacrificing comfort for REAL liberty.

And on that same token, we won't have real security because real security is mean. Real security means locking people up, chasing border crossers away with rifles, using nightsticks to make bums move on, and more. People forget that we've already been through this cycle. We shut down law enforcement in the 60s and 70s at the demand of voters because it was mean. Things got really, really bad, so bad that voters came around and were okay with being mean again...for a while. Things eventually got good in the 2000s, so good that once again, voters cried and wailed when they saw how mean keeping society secure was. So we started disabling meaningful law enforcement again, now things are going to shit, and once again, voters are coming around.

But even if Trump does fix things, in 10 years, voters will start crying about how mean putting criminals in jail is.