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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
Becareful with the "Breaking" accounts on Twitter most of them have been sourced as Indians using clicks to farm revenue. This one popped on my X thread too but I ended up reading and watching some stuff. The WW3 click farming is unreal on X atm and honestly I have stopped using it for the time being because its esculationists doing it purely to panic similar to covid.

@missnaptime honestly don't feel bad, my fiance is American and if I cannot get a H visa due to my medical loisense, if it don't work we are going 90 days. All I will see is keep evidence such as boarding passes, pictures etc. We have chased it legally at the diplomats and white English people are practically let in as the security checks are all cleared fast.

Remember Russia at the moment are in a squiffy spot. They actively have 15% of oil out of action and they burn through 700,000+ drums of oil a day. It is practically unsustainable.
 
Do the British have their own Florida Men?
Chavs kind of are that.
Personally I prefer their earlier bits with Syd and the meandering prog after he left/was forced out but before Dark Side. It’s far more bold and interesting.
Personally DSotM is my favorite but largely because I was introduced to it early in childhood so it has a lot of memories associated with it. Meddle is a great album from that prog phase, though, easily on the same level as DS.

I also love the early psychedelic stuff and even the more shambolic and outright schizo stuff Syd did after leaving.
 
Chavs kind of are that.
Alternatively there's everyone's favourites, the goddamn gypos. Labour's currently wahing about a bunch of their spawn misbehaving on trains and getting turned straight back onto another one before they can get into a town centre

Police officers have been accused of being "heavy-handed" after large groups of children and teenagers were stopped from attending a city's Christmas market and allegedly "forced" back on to trains.
Video footage shared online showed screaming youths being ushered through Manchester Victoria on Saturday after being met by a large number of Greater Manchester Police (GMP) officers.
Equality group, The Traveller Movement, said the "shocking" incident involved children from the traveller community and it was "completely unacceptable".
GMP said the force's priority was "always to protect public safety by preventing incidents of violence and disorder".
Police put in place a 48-hour dispersal notice from about 12:15 GMT on Saturday after reports of anti-social behaviour on trains and in the city.
The Traveller Movement said officers had "blocked Romani Gypsies and Irish Traveller children from attending the Christmas markets".
"This heavy-handed and discriminatory action has left children upset and distressed, with parents deeply concerned about the treatment that their children have faced," a spokesman added.

He said: "We have been contacted by numerous parents and received video footage of Romani Gypsy and Irish Traveller children arriving into Manchester, and then being forced on to a different train and prevented from leaving the station by police.
"These children were simply trying to enjoy the festivities like everyone else, but instead have been unfairly targeted and marginalised."
Greater Manchester's deputy mayor Kate Green has called for an investigation into the footage.
She said: "I have watched the videos circulating on social media with concern and have asked GMP for a full report on the action taken.
"While we will not tolerate lawlessness and anti-social behaviour in Greater Manchester, I want to reassure the community that I expect the police to treat everyone fairly and with respect and I will be inviting community leaders to meet me to discuss what has happened."

Children and young people say they were met by a large police presence at Manchester Victoria station
Assistant Chief Constable Rick Jackson said the force had been given "intelligence" about anti-social behaviour by groups on trains on the way into Manchester and similar reports around the city centre so a dispersal order was issued.
"This included plans for officers to re-route arriving groups back home," he said.
"Our priority is always to protect public safety by preventing incidents of violence and disorder."
Shortly after, officers responded to several disturbances in the city centre and intervened in altercations between groups, he said.
"We understand there are feelings of mistreatment and confusion amongst groups of people for being turned away yesterday," Mr Jackson said.
"We are determined to address these concerns by working closely with the mayor’s office to engage these communities in Manchester and further afield."
The disturbing sight of young people from traveller communities up and down the country - many of them children - being herded onto trains by police at Manchester Victoria railway station on Saturday has prompted anger, consternation and concern.
The obvious upset, however, isn't confined to people from those traveller communities.
The question being privately asked of Greater Manchester Police bosses by the Mayor's Office is whether it was really proportionate to use a so-called 'section 34' order to cover the whole of Manchester city centre. For some, it is an indiscriminate, blunt weapon that risks collateral damage.
The order, made under the Anti-Social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act, allows police to turn people away from a specified geographical area if they think there might be trouble - and arrest those who refuse.
READ NEXT: Traveller girl, 13, ended up 'hysterical' in Grimsby after being herded onto train by police in Manchester
The Manchester Evening News understands that the senior officers were well aware their decisions might well attract some public flak, but they sanctioned the order to prevent a repeat of trouble from previous years.


The arrival of hundreds of young people from traveller communities from all across the country to enjoy Manchester's Christmas markets has become an important date in the social calendar of those communities.
But it has also proved something of a headache, particularly for security and retailers in the Arndale centre which has been a particular focal point for young visitors.
In November 2022, police were called to break up a 'huge' gathering of young traveller people at the Arndale amid reports that fire alarms had been triggered, fireworks set-off and people were 'running up and down the tram tracks' in Exchange Square.

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The crowds which gathered outside the Arndale in November 2022 (Image: Pat Karney)
Police were, and are, sensitive to perceptions that senior officers appeared powerless to act despite what appeared to be widespread disorder.
An even larger gathering of youths happened at the Arndale again on Saturday.
Councillor Pat Karney, the council's city centre spokesman, was there and he tweeted that there were about 400 youths gathered, aged between nine and 19.
He told the Manchester Evening News he saw no trouble 'unlike previous occasions' as he praised the efforts of police and security staff.
However, the mass gatherings seen at the Arndale in previous years formed part of the decision-making of GMP bosses when they decided to sign the dispersal order. The city was also packed with people out Christmas shopping and football fans heading to the Etihad stadium for Manchester City's match against Tottenham Hotspur. It was very busy.
The dispersal order, signed by a senior police officer at 12.13pm on Saturday, was 'in response to a rising number of reports, and in the interest of protecting the public from excessive anti-social behaviour, disorder, and criminality over the weekend', said the officer who signed it.
GMP later clarified the order was 'due to intelligence' that groups of people were en route to Manchester on trains 'causing antisocial behaviour', with similar reports of trouble in the city centre already coming in.
The order was signed and the effect was that cops were dispatched to Victoria and Piccadilly railway stations under instruction to stop the groups and send them back.
Mobile footage shared widely online showed uniformed officers escorting young people into trains at Victoria, with many of them clearly unclear where exactly they were going to end up.
One girl, aged 13, who had come from Doncaster, ended up in Grimsby.

Her mother contacted the Manchester Evening News and said her daughter had called while she was being 'pushed' onto the train and was 'hysterical'.
She said: "She didn't have a clue where it was going. She was crying and screaming. I could hear the police officers saying 'we don't care where you go, just get back on that train and get off now'. I was saying to put the police officers on the phone but I could hear them saying 'I don't want to speak to your mother - get on that train'."
Jonny O'Brien, 26, claimed his 14-year-old sister was 'bullied' onto a train to Manchester Airport.
A woman from Lancashire, 34, who declined to be named, said she was 'pushed, pulled and shouted at' by police at Victoria before being forced onto a train to York. "I haven't done anything wrong apart from going to the Christmas markets. It was an absolutely horrible experience," she said.
Other footage showed police officers preventing some young travellers from entering stores in the city centre. The force confirmed later that they had broken up two fights and at least 40 individual dispersal orders were made telling people to leave town.
The Traveller Movement, a national charity, said the police action was 'shocking' and 'completely unacceptable'. It is considering legal action. Greater Manchester's deputy mayor, Kate Green, called for a 'full report' from GMP.
Most of those who visited on Saturday came from the north west and the Welsh borders. It was supposed to be a day out 'in their finery', according to the charity, which confirmed some visitors were as young as 11 although these were said to be accompanied by older siblings.

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Greater Manchester Police operating a dispersal order covering Manchester city centre (Image: men)
As an MP, Ms Green was a co-chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) for Gypsies, Travellers and Roma, a forum for parliamentarians to address issues facing those communities. The group also called for a 'full investigation' saying 'over-policing and targeting of minority ethnic communities is never acceptable'.
It's notable that, despite numerous requests by the Manchester Evening News, Manchester Central MP Lucy Powell has so far refused to comment.
Tomorrow (Tuesday) the charity, Ms Green and senior officers of GMP will hold a crunch meeting at her offices. It will be a key test of the 'back to basics' policing promised by Stephen Watson when he was installed as chief constable in 2021.
As well as an increase in the scale of arrests and the use of stop and search powers, a central plank of his approach was the increased use of 'dispersal orders'. They have typically been adopted following outbreaks of serious disorder or violence, for instance stabbings.
But the geographical area covered by Saturday's dispersal order - virtually the entire city centre - was huge, and for the first time it appeared to target a specific community.
Senior officers at GMP are believed to be confident the legislation was used correctly, but whether that position will survive a storm of protest and obvious anger within travellers communities is a question that only time will answer.
Given this is the UK thread I am reasonable certain the common sentiment about rounding travellers up for trains will be some not exactly subtle mutterings that they should have gone the whole Hitler.
 
Given this is the UK thread I am reasonable certain the common sentiment about rounding travellers up for trains will be some not exactly subtle mutterings that they should have gone the whole Hitler.
If all travellers mysteriously vanished from the UK overnight, I can't think of even one negative aspect that would happen.
 
Reposting this from the Mad At The Internet thread since I thought this is relevant :
Bong/Nigeria news in Nairaland ( a Nigerian internet forum, think Kiwifarms but for all the tribal drama Nigeria ie. Total Igbo Death) as a very senior lawyer in Japa province ( uber-shithole apparently :0 )has quit his position to become a department store janny in the UK as the Nigerian Naira has become that weak compared to the Dollar and Pound Sterling in the wake of new jihadi groups in Sokoto state and devastating Lagos floods. https://www.nairaland.com/8276584/japa-senior-lawyer-shuts-down / https://ghostarchive.org/archive/Q7yiC ( lmao at Nigerians calling the UK a dead landscape ran by criminals and lunatics)
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So lets say they actually do it this time, my question is why? We just made a ton of cuts to our military and "apparently" haven't got money left so why at a time when our money and patriotism is at an all time low start another war?
The faster they can kill of British solders the more quickly they can advance the program to recruit African soldiers to the British military in exchange for British citizenship. Yes, this is a government program.

Foreign born troops dependent on the state for their legitimacy, are always more willing to act against a native population than native born troops. Many historical examples of such policies by unpopular rulers.
 
The faster they can kill of British solders the more quickly they can advance the program to recruit African soldiers to the British military in exchange for British citizenship. Yes, this is a government program.

Foreign born troops dependent on the state for their legitimacy, are always more willing to act against a native population than native born troops. Many historical examples of such policies by unpopular rulers.
I think that's possibly a component, but it seems far more straightforward that:
  1. They want to force a Third World War with Russia.
  2. They are unconvinced that America will stand by them and their games after January 20th.
  3. Time is running out.
They thought that they could play these games in Ukraine for the foreseeable future, presumably until Russia runs out of steam (or Judgement Day, which at this rate is probably sooner) and with Trump's election a lot of their plans are off-kilter. Agenda 2030 outside of Europe is dead in the water. Trump 2.0 means a re-negotiation of NATO, UN, etc. Their only chance to force the hand of the Americans is before January, and they need to happen as soon as possible. It benefits the American Leftist elite faction as well, to trigger a Third World War before Trump gets into office, so it's a win-win as far as the Transatlantic Faggot Elite are concerned.
 
How's your marksmanship?

i've never held a weapon in my life, lol, so i'd imagine pretty bad...
honestly don't feel bad, my fiance is American and if I cannot get a H visa due to my medical loisense, if it don't work we are going 90 days. All I will see is keep evidence such as boarding passes, pictures etc. We have chased it legally at the diplomats and white English people are practically let in as the security checks are all cleared fast.
i am white british; so i've got that going for me; gonna do my best :)
 
I think that's possibly a component, but it seems far more straightforward that:
  1. They want to force a Third World War with Russia.
  2. They are unconvinced that America will stand by them and their games after January 20th.
  3. Time is running out.
They thought that they could play these games in Ukraine for the foreseeable future, presumably until Russia runs out of steam (or Judgement Day, which at this rate is probably sooner) and with Trump's election a lot of their plans are off-kilter. Agenda 2030 outside of Europe is dead in the water. Trump 2.0 means a re-negotiation of NATO, UN, etc. Their only chance to force the hand of the Americans is before January, and they need to happen as soon as possible. It benefits the American Leftist elite faction as well, to trigger a Third World War before Trump gets into office, so it's a win-win as far as the Transatlantic Faggot Elite are concerned.
America is the Zionist valhalla while the UK is the technocratic globalist samsara.
 
The most challenging part of shooting in the UK is finding a decent range.
There are loads in Bradford. Well, they're less 'ranges' and more 'long streets where one could expend a lot of ammo without worrying about who or what you hit', but that would be splitting hairs.
 
There are loads in Bradford. Well, they're less 'ranges' and more 'long streets where one could expend a lot of ammo without worrying about who or what you hit', but that would be splitting hairs.
I spent 3 years living in that shithole, I wouldn't go back if you paid me (there's also a pretty decent 1000yd range between here and there).
 
Only time I’ve ever shot a gun was air rifle shooting on a camp as a kid. I was actually pretty good at it. I’d like to have another go one day. I imagine the hard bit is maintaining your cool and aim during great stress.
Honestly, rifle shooting typical UK style is a lot like yoga. Posture, breath control, it's all about shooting the smallest groups possible and once your gun is set up properly that's down to repeatability and personal discipline. People think no-one has guns, or it's only farmers, but per the latest figures there are 1.7 million privately held shotguns and rifles in England and Wales.
Let me guess: university?
I certainly wasn't there for the thriving cultural scene
 
You'd be surprised, shooting guns accurately is a lot easier than people make out.

Indeed. It's also one of those things that's like riding a bike - You can be nowhere near a gun for years and think you'll be a crap shot after all that time, but it all comes back pretty quickly the next time you do.
 
People think no-one has guns, or it's only farmers, but per the latest figures there are 1.7 million privately held shotguns and rifles in England and Wales.
No experience with this myself, but I did recently meet a chap not so long ago that used to collect firearms and visit shooting ranges on the regular. He was quite negative and demotivated about the whole experience. UK gun laws have essentially made it a practical and logistical headache that he can't really be bothered with at an advanced age.
 
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