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Think of the wasted years fans had at wanting Gadget with Chip, only for that to happen.
@X-avier cuck I feel like your just judging it by the standards of today rather than the standards Disney themselves set decades ago.
I am never going to argue that Moana is worse than 99% of Disney's current output, but Disney's current output has more in common with my bowls than the quality media it used to produce.
Moana pales in comparison to the likes of Disney's classics and if it was released in that time it would seen more as the Disney direct to Video lineup than the proper theater releases. Entertaining for a few hours, but forgettable after a few weeks if not days.
I also have no idea what you are huffing about the music. Its as generic as it comes for Disney music.
Its only saving grace is being the last kind of okay film Disney made before becoming a desert of shit.
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My main thesis is that Moana is a "good" Disney film not that it's the cream of the crop.
If my initial comment sounds overly praiseworthy, then it just says more about where Disney is quality wise currently as opposed do anything about the film.
My money, I think it's unfair to compare Moana to anything from the Disney Renaissance because I wasn't just the peak of disney, it was the Apex of Western animation in general
From 1989 to the mid-2000s, studios delivered stories infused with genuine passion, experimentation, and innovation. Today? Animation feels like a cynical, algorithmic wasteland—less art, more assembly line. Disney used to have a baseline quality. Even if Cinderella isn’t Aladdin, you can still appreciate it as a solid piece of storytelling. Now, you’re lucky if the latest Disney film is even coherent.
I honed it on the music specifically because we live in an era where everything wants to be Hamilton like, the fails to understand what makes LMM's work.
Yes, You're Welcome does indeed have a "rap" section but Maui himself never says anything that feels out of character and the song actually told you who he is as a person.
Nothing in the song sounds like it's trying to desperately appeal to terminally online teenagers.
Even Shiny for as over the top it is still acts as a character piece that tells you more about the world and Maui himself.
The same kind of goes for the main character because she feels like a character as opposed to a walking caricature of what Disney thinks the Twitter crowd wants to see in a Polynesian woman nor does it constantly beat us over the head to remind us that everything wrong with Moana is good actually.
I know it's fun to bash disney, but I think we got to identify why they suck and identify what they used to do correctly so that they can (hopefully) get back on track
I don't think Moana OG will ever be an All time Disney movie but at least it was all right as opposed to anything they do now
My main thesis is that Moana is a "good" Disney film not that it's the cream of the crop.
If my initial comment sounds overly praiseworthy, then it just says more about where Disney is quality wise currently as opposed do anything about the film.
My money, I think it's unfair to compare Moana to anything from the Disney Renaissance because I wasn't just the peak of disney, it was the Apex of Western animation in general
From 1989 to the mid-2000s, studios delivered stories infused with genuine passion, experimentation, and innovation. Today? Animation feels like a cynical, algorithmic wasteland—less art, more assembly line. Disney used to have a baseline quality. Even if Cinderella isn’t Aladdin, you can still appreciate it as a solid piece of storytelling. Now, you’re lucky if the latest Disney film is even coherent.
I honed it on the music specifically because we live in an era where everything wants to be Hamilton like, the fails to understand what makes LMM's work.
Yes, You're Welcome does indeed have a "rap" section but Maui himself never says anything that feels out of character and the song actually told you who he is as a person.
Nothing in the song sounds like it's trying to desperately appeal to terminally online teenagers.
Even Shiny for as over the top it is still acts as a character piece that tells you more about the world and Maui himself.
The same kind of goes for the main character because she feels like a character as opposed to a walking caricature of what Disney thinks the Twitter crowd wants to see in a Polynesian woman nor does it constantly beat us over the head to remind us that everything wrong with Moana is good actually.
I know it's fun to bash disney, but I think we got to identify why they suck and identify what they used to do correctly so that they can (hopefully) get back on track
I don't think Moana OG will ever be an All time Disney movie but at least it was all right as opposed to anything they do now
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Reviews are in for Moana 2 and it's no Inside Out 2.
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Eh. The audience score is what really matters here.
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Moana stands out to me, personally, as a spiritual journey that the lead herself takes to come to terms with her identity as a daughter of a chief and a descendant of voyagers. She wanted to go out exploring because it's in her blood on top of the ocean literally calling her to a task only she could do—although there would've been no shame in returning home at her lowest. Her strongest virtue was being brave enough to explore past the reef that bordered the island, and she was guided to an actual guide who in turn needed to be humbled.
'Course I am biased since I think Polynesian culture is rather fascinating, and my grandmother and I were on the same page about our takeaways, but I can understand why it didn't speak to others the same way if at all.
'Course I am biased since I think Polynesian culture is rather fascinating, and my grandmother and I were on the same page about our takeaways, but I can understand why it didn't speak to others the same way if at all.
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I wouldn't pay to see it, but if they made a "live action zootopia remake" where the characters were all furfags in suits, I could at least see where they were coming from.
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Those actors are going to have to be really good at body language. Unless they have animatronic heads or that creepy projection faces.
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Yeah I'm not saying it would be good, but I'd imagine the audience of degenerate furfags would eat it up.
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I'm morbidly curious about how they would actually do it. Or maybe they'll just do hololive and CGI the faces and fur so they don't deal with the costume unions.
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We need some good content in this thread. Just yesterday, some Disney lost media/deleted scenes came to light from Fantasia 2000, hope you all enjoy:
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Moana 2 sitting at a 57% on metacritic and it looks like the rotten tomatoes score is probably going to fall to around 65.
From what I can gather from the various reviews on YouTube and social media is that this is more or less in the same ballpark as Return of Jafar but with better animation.
Maui actually isn't in the movie very much at all and just kind of pops up at the beginning and then comes around during the climax (probably because the Rock was too high of a price to pay for when this was still a Disney plus series).
The exchange for this is that we get a bunch of no-name villagers that are supposed to be a supporting cast that have a singular quirk that doesn't come into effect until the finale.
The worst thing I heard though is that there's this fake out villain that's like this Hawaiian witch that only pops up you seen this weird Taylor Swift like number before disappearing until the cliffhanger to basically yell that there's going to be a third movie in the works.
Within the span of like a year Moana has been turned into a franchise with a sequel, a live-action remake coming the following year, and a potential third film coming after that.
Don't even think frozen was milk this hard.
From what I can gather from the various reviews on YouTube and social media is that this is more or less in the same ballpark as Return of Jafar but with better animation.
Maui actually isn't in the movie very much at all and just kind of pops up at the beginning and then comes around during the climax (probably because the Rock was too high of a price to pay for when this was still a Disney plus series).
The exchange for this is that we get a bunch of no-name villagers that are supposed to be a supporting cast that have a singular quirk that doesn't come into effect until the finale.
The worst thing I heard though is that there's this fake out villain that's like this Hawaiian witch that only pops up you seen this weird Taylor Swift like number before disappearing until the cliffhanger to basically yell that there's going to be a third movie in the works.
Within the span of like a year Moana has been turned into a franchise with a sequel, a live-action remake coming the following year, and a potential third film coming after that.
Don't even think frozen was milk this hard.
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Okay, now you're just talking crazy
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They'll go and see them but they won't love them. They won't replay them in the playground, they won't learn to draw better because of them, they won't sing the songs, won't dress up for Halloween, won't play with the toys till they wear out. That was always the real value Disney earned from these properties, not the opening weekend take. Without that there's no long term prosperity, no beloved stable of wholly owned mythologies, nothing to repackage and resell to the next generation after this one. It is self-cannibalism and it's glorious to watch.
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I remember hearing about this 20 years ago.
Speaking of unfinished Disney stuff...
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Ironically Moana now has the same fate as most of the Disney Renaissance movies
A sequel that was meant for TV
A live action remake to cash in on nostalgia
Though there are differences with the sequel being in theaters obviously, and the remake made more for an actor's ego stroking.
So far only four films from that era are spared from the live action treatment with no plans in sight:
Rescuers Down Under = Literally a film that I don't think anyone would care about, especially being a sequel to another film not really notable.
Pocahontas and Hunchback - Both would be controversial between Pocahontas' blatant historical inaccuracy that pissed many off to Hunchback's themes about religion.
Tarzan - Honestly I'm surprised they haven't gone after this one.
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Yoooo i still can't get over the boy in this picture. He is Bobby Driscoll. He was a child star and best known as the voice of Peter Pan. Although he does indeed look like a cartoon rat irl (or like someone with cataracts tried to make James Dean in The Sims) his story is ultimately a tragic one. He was abusive to his wife and arrested numerous times. Eventually he found his way into the Warhol gang. Got into drugs and drinking. His corpse was found in an abandoned NYC home by two kids who mistook it for...I believe either a scarecrow or something. He was unrecognizable and past rigor mortis. He was buried in an unmarked grave and to this day his body was never found. In a way he is technically the first Disney kid to have a self destructive career.