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Mr. Manchester said:
My guess is that his track record is dogshit and unlike Kamala who just sort of sat on her ass and said stupid shit, Newsom actually enacted a lot of retarded policies that fucked over California. He also comes off as a smug prick who is too dumb to hide it around his peers. I bet he's made a lot of enemies in the meantime.
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Remember the time he went on tour through several red states touting how much better off California is compared to them?
 
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Breadbassket said:
Newsom is on the table to but Jeffries might be to. It is really hard to say what the field will look like in 2028.
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My money is on Maura Healey. Every other potential candidate has some bullshit that can come back to them in a primary. Wes Moore got dinged for not paying his bills, he created an unsightly controversy surrounding Bruce Prothero, and also has some stolen valor issues. Newsom is a Califag and I think his political career is on borrowed time. Gretchen Whitmer has too much baggage from COVID. JB Pritzker and Josh Shapiro are Jews, which means their fate is already sealed with the Congressional Progressive Caucus. Raphael Warnock has a long history of saying ridiculous shit.

Healey is quiet, efficient, and the only serious controversies she has are her anti-gun stances - which the Democrats will not ding her for. She had a very successful career as a civil rights attorney, defeated a pretty powerful Massachusetts politician (Warren Tolman, who was backed by the Massachusetts Democratic Party whole hog) to become Attorney General, and was a very effective Attorney General for 8 years. Now she's Governor of Massachusetts and enjoying a fairly good approval rating.
 
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Seedling said:
Wait what happened to Newsom?
If anything he seems like the best globohomo pic, is he that unpopular that they dont want him to run for president?
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Newsom is very unpopular outside of California, and his unpopularity has been growing over time in Cali. Not to mention the weird shit he's signed into law in Cali would be used against him

Newsom can still run in the 2028 Dem primary but to me he seems like a very toxic pick, out of the prospective field.
 
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I love how now a lot of the media is pulling the, "It's okay, I was only pretending to be retarded" defense because Youtubers and political streamers on Twitch and X are getting more views than they are right now.

I'm glad someone got through to Putin for him to knock it the fuck off (at least until Trump gets in office). Putin knows he'll get a better negotiating deal with Trump than with whoever the fuck is running the White House currently. 1 more month to go.
 
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Hey Johnny Bravo said:
My money is on Maura Healey. Every other potential candidate has some bullshit that can come back to them in a primary. Wes Moore got dinged for not paying his bills, he created an unsightly controversy surrounding Bruce Prothero, and also has some stolen valor issues. Newsom is a Califag and I think his political career is on borrowed time. Gretchen Whitmer has too much baggage from COVID. JB Pritzker and Josh Shapiro are Jews, which means their fate is already sealed with the Congressional Progressive Caucus. Raphael Warnock has a long history of saying ridiculous shit.

Healey is quiet, efficient, and the only serious controversies she has are her anti-gun stances - which the Democrats will not ding her for. She had a very successful career as a civil rights attorney, defeated a pretty powerful Massachusetts politician (Warren Tolman, who was backed by the Massachusetts Democratic Party whole hog) to become Attorney General, and was a very effective Attorney General for 8 years. Now she's Governor of Massachusetts and enjoying a fairly good approval rating.
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Healey has the same problem the rest of them do - she's too far left on everything. Massachusetts had a surplus when she took office, now it has a deficit. She's big on open borders. She's big on racebaiting. She's big on troonery. She's big on government telling everyone what to do. She's big on government not having to listen to anybody if they aren't on the technocrat and apparatchik approved list. She's another personally unpleasant harpy. I would be perfectly fine with Democrats thinking third time's the charm on that kind of candidate
 
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draggs said:
Healey has the same problem the rest of them do - she's too far left on everything. Massachusetts had a surplus when she took office, now it has a deficit. She's big on open borders. She's big on racebaiting. She's big on troonery. She's big on government telling everyone what to do. She's big on government not having to listen to anybody if they aren't on the technocrat and apparatchik approved list. She's another personally unpleasant harpy. I would be perfectly fine with Democrats thinking third time's the charm on that kind of candidate
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She is not too left-learning on everything. When it comes to gay marriage, yes, the dyke is going to defend gay marriage and gay rights. When it comes to guns, yes, she is extremely anti-gun and wants everyone but people like her to have armed protection. When it comes to immigration, yes, she has been awful. As governor, though, she was a lot easier on big businesses than everyone expected her to be and reduced short-term capital gains taxes. Healey also increased tax breaks for certain populations like seniors (the Senior Circuit Breaker Tax Credit) and lowered estate tax thresholds. These are just a few examples.

In my opinion, Healey has not been as radically left-wing as many people expected, and she is able to get away with this because she does not have to be radically left. The state legislature, the Boston City Council, and the new Attorney General will do all of that for her. They can do dumb shit, like pass meaningless "millionaire taxes," while she watches from the sidelines with that mousy smile of hers. She will also benefit from Trump axing funding to states who do not comply with immigration; now that defending illegal immigration is no longer a winning issue, all she has to do is give lip service to helping those people before the money dries up and she is "forced" to abandon all these programs.

I could be wrong, of course. In fact, I hope that I'm wrong. She absolutely could try to stand up to the Trump Administration and go to bat for illegal immigrants, but I don't see that happening because she is not joining JB Pritzker's little club of anti-Trump governors. As I've said before: Healey is very shrewd and efficient. That's why I'm kind of afraid of her running in 2028.
 
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Hey Johnny Bravo said:
She is not too left-learning on everything. When it comes to gay marriage, yes, the dyke is going to defend gay marriage and gay rights. When it comes to guns, yes, she is extremely anti-gun and wants everyone but people like her to have armed protection. When it comes to immigration, yes, she has been awful. As governor, though, she was a lot easier on big businesses than everyone expected her to be and reduced short-term capital gains taxes. Healey also increased tax breaks for certain populations like seniors (the Senior Circuit Breaker Tax Credit) and lowered estate tax thresholds. These are just a few examples.

In my opinion, Healey has not been as radically left-wing as many people expected, and she is able to get away with this because she does not have to be radically left. The state legislature, the Boston City Council, and the new Attorney General will do all of that for her. They can do dumb shit, like pass meaningless "millionaire taxes," while she watches from the sidelines with that mousy smile of hers. She will also benefit from Trump axing funding to states who do not comply with immigration; now that defending illegal immigration is no longer a winning issue, all she has to do is give lip service to helping those people before the money dries up and she is "forced" to abandon all these programs.

I could be wrong, of course. In fact, I hope that I'm wrong. She absolutely could try to stand up to the Trump Administration and go to bat for illegal immigrants, but I don't see that happening because she is not joining JB Pritzker's little club of anti-Trump governors. As I've said before: Healey is very shrewd and efficient. That's why I'm kind of afraid of her running in 2028.
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Healey on trooning

Healey on immigration

Healey on race

Just because she's avoided heat nationally because she's a new and irrelevant governor of a small, irrelevant state doesn't mean she has no "serious controversies" and would avoid the heat for them in a presidential campaign

She also looks and talks like this
This is not a person who can beat a JD Vance lol
 
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draggs said:
Just because she's avoided heat nationally because she's a new and irrelevant governor of a small, irrelevant state doesn't mean she has no "serious controversies" and would avoid the heat for them in a presidential campaign
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Massachusetts is hardly irrelevant (it's the 3rd wealthiest state in the country Edit: it's actually the wealthiest by median income as of 2023) and Healey is not new. She has a legal and political career spanning 2 decades. I'm not saying you are wrong that her pro-troon, pro-slave labor illegal immigration, and pro-BLM stances will hurt her. Against Vance and assuming Trump's second term goes smoothly, I think she would have an uphill battle in a national election. I do not want this bitch to run and I would be aghast if she won. However, of all the possible Democratic candidates in 2028, she would be the most concerning to me versus all the other potential candidates.
 
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Hey Johnny Bravo said:
Massachusetts is hardly irrelevant (it's the 3rd wealthiest state in the country Edit: it's actually the wealthiest by median income as of 2023) and Healey is not new. She has a legal and political career spanning 2 decades. I'm not saying you are wrong that her pro-troon, pro-slave labor illegal immigration, and pro-BLM stances will hurt her. Against Vance and assuming Trump's second term goes smoothly, I think she would have an uphill battle in a national election. I do not want this bitch to run and I would be aghast if she won. However, of all the possible Democratic candidates in 2028, she would be the most concerning to me versus all the other potential candidates.
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But she's a woman. And Vance was on the ticket with two time woman beater Iron Celling Don. She has a -100 stat deboost automatically.
 
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Hey Johnny Bravo said:
Massachusetts is hardly irrelevant (it's the 3rd wealthiest state in the country) and Healey is not new. She has a legal and political career spanning 2 decades. I'm not saying you are wrong that her pro-troon, pro-slave labor illegal immigration, and pro-BLM stances will hurt her. Against Vance and assuming Trump's second term goes smoothly, I think she would have an uphill battle in a national election. However, of all the possible Democratic candidates in 2028, she would be the most concerning to me versus all the other potential candidates.
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When was the last time Massachusetts was relevant politically?

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When Democrats were defending Obamacare by saying Mitt Romney basically implemented Obamacare at the state level as governor of Massachusetts

That was 15 years ago

Healey is new. She's been governor of Massachusetts for just less than two years. Before that, she was attorney general for eight years. She has never had to run in a competitive election in her life. She's Hillary 2.0. Younger, fatter in the face, open about the carpet-munching. Democrats failed to brute force unpleasant female candidates into the Oval Office through ridiculously propagandistic media coverage twice. I would look forward to them trying again
 
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draggs said:
Question:
When was the last time Massachusetts was relevant politically?

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When Democrats were defending Obamacare by saying Mitt Romney basically implemented Obamacare at the state level as governor of Massachusetts

That was 15 years ago

Healey is new. She's been governor of Massachusetts for just less than two years. Before that, she was attorney general for eight years. She has never had to run in a competitive election in her life. She's Hillary 2.0. Younger, fatter in the face, open about the carpet-munching. Democrats failed to brute force unpleasant female candidates into the Oval Office through ridiculously propagandistic media coverage twice. I would look forward to them trying again
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Fair enough. I hope you are correct.
 
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