US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

this was interesting

Yes yes, betray each other!

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Isn’t that what Democrats like though? This is the party of Gretchen Whitmer and Gavin Newsom as “the hot names for the future”. That and if they had their own Trump, there would be meltdowns. Hell, they screwed Bernie Sanders over.

It's what Democrats pretend to like. NPR isn't even the biggest MSM for them, it's just staged radio to tell other people that they're smart.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

Would explain why she was so blasted in that video and why no one can say why she did this at all.

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Hilarious that Obama thinks an apology is going to be enough to satisfy these groups. They want heads over this disaster and currently the party has been reluctant to offer any up. I don't even know if Kamala is a big enough head for the megadonors. One thing's becoming very clear from the last couple of days - they lied their asses off to the big money and a reckoning is coming from it.

I've been saying for a while that the democrats are too far gone, and need their Trump equivalent move to shake the party up and unfuck the sheer egotistical bullshit leading it, like Trump did to the Republicans when he basically schism'd them into the Trump Republican and the RINO's proper. There's a non-zero chance that a Bernie breakaway party would set the stage for that to play out with the Dems. I don't think Bernie himself would be the lefties Trump, but he has the recognition and prior experience to actually get attention onto their shit, and a breakaway is the golden opportunity for unknowns to do what Trump did, come in and win on the basics. Odds are the breakaway gets reabsorbed, but it'll be doing so with new voices and new opportunity.

Of course, there's a lot of fucking rainbows in all that, but if they fuck it up, yer still winning. Either the dems continue to shit the bed, or they change and start addressing conservative issues to court conservative and centrist voters, both are pretty good for conservatives.

 

[Sammich]

lmao lot of conservatives saying he's a washed up has been and should stfu in the comments, but honestly he's pretty much on the mark and despite public support for kamala as I understand internally has been saying all this same stuff.

I don't agree with him very often, he's a cranky old hasbeen fuck, but if the Dems want any sort of crawl back it would do them well to listen at the feet of the guy that helped get that in 92. Carter and the dems got nuked from orbit in 80, mondale won a single fucking state in 84, and old man bush won in 88. If Trump achieves even moderate success, Vance will be a runaway train in 28, but the left needs some sort of realignment if they don't want to get utterly gaped the way reagan did them in 84.

 

[clipartfan92]

this was interesting

The Brit says:

There was no mention at all of Gaza or Palestinians or Israel. Which I think was just an incredible oversight.

I know we're talking about a "journalist," but he can't honestly be that stupid can he? Oversight? It was an intentional omission.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

I've been saying for a while that the democrats are too far gone, and need their Trump equivalent move to shake the party up and unfuck the sheer egotistical bullshit leading it, like Trump did to the Republicans when he basically schism'd them into the Trump Republican and the RINO's proper. There's a non-zero chance that a Bernie breakaway party would set the stage for that to play out with the Dems. I don't think Bernie himself would be the lefties Trump, but he has the recognition and prior experience to actually get attention onto their shit, and a breakaway is the golden opportunity for unknowns to do what Trump did, come in and win on the basics. Odds are the breakaway gets reabsorbed, but it'll be doing so with new voices and new opportunity.

I agree, but I do not think this will happen for a looooong while because even now the people breaking with the main line democrats are crazier and more retarded than they are. They're gonna have to really drop their love of troons and illegals and I just don't see any segment of the party ready to do that. Even with sanders, ultimately sanders is a principle-less grifter who talks the talk but when rubber hits the road will bend the knee and suck whatever corporate cock he's told to.

anyone who would have been willing to do this already defected to the MAGA side, INCLUDING TRUMP HIMSELF A FORMER DEMOCRAT FFS!!

 

[Mr. Manchester]

Would explain why she was so blasted in that video and why no one can say why she did this at all.

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Hilarious that Obama thinks an apology is going to be enough to satisfy these groups. They want heads over this disaster and currently the party has been reluctant to offer any up. I don't even know if Kamala is a big enough head for the megadonors. One thing's becoming very clear from the last couple of days - they lied their asses off to the big money and a reckoning is coming from it.

My favorite part is Bernie Sanders threatening to form a third party.

Third party... seventh house...

 

[The Ugly One]

I have to believe that activist lawyers are going to fight the caveat of deportation like how most plea deals for serial killers involve taking away the death penalty.

Deportation isn't a punishment. If you steal a car, no plea deal allows you to keep the car, because returning it to its rightful owner isn't a punishment.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

I agree, but I do not think this will happen for a looooong while because even now the people breaking with the main line democrats are crazier and more retarded than they are. They're gonna have to really drop their love of troons and illegals and I just don't see any segment of the party ready to do that. Even with sanders, ultimately sanders is a principle-less grifter who talks the talk but when rubber hits the road will bend the knee and suck whatever corporate cock he's told to.

anyone who would have been willing to do this already defected to the MAGA side, INCLUDING TRUMP HIMSELF A FORMER DEMOCRAT FFS!!

This will be the biggest hurdle, Someone is going to have to start being honest about the problems

The LGBT Globalist Elite rule has been an outright failure

 

[MirrorNoir]

What happens if she is too drunk and doesn't show?

Nothing, it still happens. One of the ironies of Jan 6 2020 is that in the aftermath it was changed so that the VP doesn't have to finalize the certification of the election anymore so Kamala can't stop it even if she wanted to.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Dan Crenshaw will die on the hill that he isn't an insider trading whore:

He's cussing so you know he's a tough guy

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

My favorite part is Bernie Sanders threatening to form a third party.

Third party... seventh house...

By my count it will be house 8999

 

[The Ugly One]

By my count it will be house 8999

Kicked out of 109 political parties and it's never his fault?

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I don't agree with him very often, he's a cranky old hasbeen fuck, but if the Dems want any sort of crawl back it would do them well to listen at the feet of the guy that helped get that in 92. Carter and the dems got nuked from orbit in 80, mondale won a single fucking state in 84, and old man bush won in 88. If Trump achieves even moderate success, Vance will be a runaway train in 28, but the left needs some sort of realignment if they don't want to get utterly gaped the way reagan did them in 84.

JD Vance will lose so long as the Democrats nominate an even halfway decent candidate like Mark Kelly (read: not some loser like Newsome or Whitmer). He's a closet gay fruitloop who wears dresses and eyeliner and attends San Francisco gay pride parades, associates with creepy pedophile billionaires like Peter Thiel, and comes off as a rich boy trying to imitate a hillbilly who watches Tucker Carlson. His senate election result was quite poor for Ohio compared to the guy he replaced or other Ohio Republicans that year. There is no "Too Big to Rig" for ol' Jimmy Hamel, since he's way too full of baggage. Only way he wins is if the vote riggers in the swing states are shut down hard. None of that 2% swing toward Harris in Wisconsin that Trump barely overcame this time.

 

[los pepes]

I've been saying for a while that the democrats are too far gone, and need their Trump equivalent move to shake the party up and unfuck the sheer egotistical bullshit leading it, like Trump did to the Republicans when he basically schism'd them into the Trump Republican and the RINO's proper. There's a non-zero chance that a Bernie breakaway party would set the stage for that to play out with the Dems. I don't think Bernie himself would be the lefties Trump, but he has the recognition and prior experience to actually get attention onto their shit, and a breakaway is the golden opportunity for unknowns to do what Trump did, come in and win on the basics. Odds are the breakaway gets reabsorbed, but it'll be doing so with new voices and new opportunity.

Of course, there's a lot of fucking rainbows in all that, but if they fuck it up, yer still winning. Either the dems continue to shit the bed, or they change and start addressing conservative issues to court conservative and centrist voters, both are pretty good for conservatives.

The corporations and billionaires that own the democrat party would never allow that to happen. Any bernie split would immediately absorb the remaining working class voters in the party and end up with ~25% of the electorate. That would leave the donor class and 6 figure white democrats as all that is left in the "old" party with nowhere to go and ~10-15% of the vote. They would not be welcome in the GOP. There is way too much money at stake. They would buy out the bernie party and take that over. There can only be one corporate stateist party, and they damned sure will be in charge of it, whatever the name.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

This will be the biggest hurdle, Someone is going to have to start being honest about the problems

The LGBT Globalist Elite rule has been an outright failure

And this is why I think the breakaway stands a better chance than the democrats proper at actually bringing the issues home. The globalist financial class thats been backing this destructive shit isn't getting any poorer anytime soon, and will almost certainly keep their claws deep in the party. To them, it really is better to burn them all as obstruction to losing their favorable policies, because they're not seeking reelection, and they'll just pay off the next blue to take the seat.

A breakaway has the hope of getting enough non toxic messaging out and ingrained before the financial class really recognizes and moves against the threat, by which time it may be too late to coopt or reliably crush. Much like how successful Trumpist policies and politics has forced some hard questions for the dems, a breakaway seeing success would force more.

But it does all hedge on the majority of the breakaway being resistant to being bought out.

Dan Crenshaw will die on the hill that he isn't an insider trading whore:

I'm still of the opinion that we're far too lenient about rich politicians. Ban them from the stock market, for life, period, I don't care. Fix their salary to be the median salary (not average) of the constituency they represent. If you want to be paid more, improve life for the literal average of those you represent. Only concession I'd give to being fucked over on stocks would be to allow voters to decide if they keep a portion of the salary after they leave office - A pension that starts paying out immediately, in effect. I guarantee it'd be cheaper in the long run than letting them scam and fleece the taxpayer at every corner, at least it'll be obvious how much money they're siphoning off.

I'd prefer to not even go that far, but considering I'd also prefer to ban them from the revolving door of lobbyist work as well. So, its at least fair to say you get to live on the salary of the normal people going forward, and do whatever else, thank you for your service and all that jazz, if you can convince the people you've earned it.

 

[Betonhaus]

My favorite part is Bernie Sanders threatening to form a third party.

Third party... seventh house...

Is Bernie still in politics? I thought he was older then Biden.

 

[xXthrowawayaccountXx]

You know, I keep thinking about how easy it would to make a better platform for transgenderism:
- No giving hormones/surgery to minors
- Don't take away someone's kid because they didn't play along
- Push for unisex single bathrooms instead (these are already pushed for people with wheelchairs)
- Make some kind of third, transgender league in sports

This alone would be ten times more palatable, especially to people that haven't peaked among the dems.

But they can't do this, because they have spent too long convincing everyone that doing any of this will lead to the third reich. Which, is ironically a self fulfilling prophecy. Both because they have shown that giving these people an inch will lead to them taking a whole yard, and because the more you put your little personal issue against people looking for a stable life, they are more than willing to flatten you over as things get worse.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Republicans are losers as always.

Thanks for throwing away a really good court case. I guess the Cali Republicans didn't get the memo didn't get the memo that they are supposed to be fighting fortification this year.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

But they can't do this, because they have spent too long convincing everyone that doing any of this will lead to the third reich.

They won't do it because it's not about being reasonable in the first place. These people are the clout-chasing version of rent seekers.