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Snekposter said:
So, about giving the world Niggergorn...
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Lord of the Rings is public domain now in many countries so they're free to fuck things up as they please. I've also never been invested in The Hobbit or Lord of the Rings as I found the books boring.

Next year The Magic Island and Buck Rogers will be public domain. I'm sure Frohnapfel will be happy as he'll likely write another dumb essay about the book is "racist". Buck Rogers is supposed to get a movie one of these days so the character becoming open to the public to do something with should do wonders for it.
 
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There is a guy in my 5e game who is so retarded he can't figure out how a pure fighter works. It's been over three months since he joined and he still somehow fumbles every turn and has to be handheld through what he's doing. Keep in mind, he attacks three times every turn no matter what. You'd think after one round he'd understand how things work, but no. At first I thought it was just anxiety or something, but now I'm wondering if my friend brought a literal retard in to play with us. There was one week where due to scheduling we decided to run a oneshot instead, and my god. He played a druid and would seemingly just choose a spell at random every turn to cast. In the first encounter he tried to cast a fire spell on a water elemental, it was immune. He then casted Flame Blade, which sent everyone into hysterics. Every combat I think he would cast flame blade, then not use it or immediately break the concentration with another spell the next turn. What's really fucked up is this guy is a high school teacher. The DM for our next campaign was trying to convince everyone to try pathfinder instead, and I had to just straight up tell him we'd have to boot this guy out of the game for that.

If nothing else I feel like I understand who 5e is built for now.
 
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Battlefield2142EU said:
LE geek culture Dungeons and Dragons youtubers wasted no time defending WOTC slandering Gary Gygax.
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Yeah. Sly Flourish did the same. "It's only 2 pages out of over 500!" "White men can't have an opinion on this!"

So far, none of the YouTubers who rushed to WotC's defense surprise me.
 
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Big Green said:
There is a guy in my 5e game who is so retarded he can't figure out how a pure fighter works. It's been over three months since he joined and he still somehow fumbles every turn and has to be handheld through what he's doing. Keep in mind, he attacks three times every turn no matter what. You'd think after one round he'd understand how things work, but no. At first I thought it was just anxiety or something, but now I'm wondering if my friend brought a literal retard in to play with us. There was one week where due to scheduling we decided to run a oneshot instead, and my god. He played a druid and would seemingly just choose a spell at random every turn to cast. In the first encounter he tried to cast a fire spell on a water elemental, it was immune. He then casted Flame Blade, which sent everyone into hysterics. Every combat I think he would cast flame blade, then not use it or immediately break the concentration with another spell the next turn. What's really fucked up is this guy is a high school teacher. The DM for our next campaign was trying to convince everyone to try pathfinder instead, and I had to just straight up tell him we'd have to boot this guy out of the game for that.

If nothing else I feel like I understand who 5e is built for now.
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I had a person in my game that reached this level of idiocracy. he cast light on an arrow and shoot it to the enemy so it might blind them and lost all his valuable turns on this action... they were in a desert on daytime...
 
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strawberry15 said:
I had a person in my game that reached this level of idiocracy. he cast light on an arrow and shoot it to the enemy so it might blind them and lost all his valuable turns on this action... they were in a desert on daytime...
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I have a really simple rule with magical Macgyvering. You cannot replicate the effect of a high-level spell with a low-level spell + cleverness. In 5e, Blindness/Deafness is a 2nd level spell. Light is a cantrip. So in this case, I would have just told the player, "No, you can't Macgyver a 2nd-level spell using a cantrip and an arrow." Of course, he still would have been an idiot, it sounds like. There's no curing stupid.
 
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Anonymus Fluhre said:
He just needs to buy D&D. They've done more damage to that than they have to Magic The Gathering. I would also get rid of all the shit in the lore from various products that is from 4th Edition and up.
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The only reason that's true is because after they killed off oldwalkers and rebooted the lore they did such a terrible job with the new lore that even they stopped giving a shit about it. What little lore you do get subjected to is Brown Girl Magic and Gay Man adventures in the multiverse while small breasted lesbian women with fugly faces applaud.

I wish Elon would buy WotC purely because the MtG community is filled with tranny chasing soylords who would start hyperventilating about it immediately
 
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The Ugly One said:
I have a really simple rule with magical Macgyvering. You cannot replicate the effect of a high-level spell with a low-level spell + cleverness. In 5e, Blindness/Deafness is a 2nd level spell. Light is a cantrip. So in this case, I would have just told the player, "No, you can't Macgyver a 2nd-level spell using a cantrip and an arrow." Of course, he still would have been an idiot, it sounds like. There's no curing stupid.
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This was the same issue I had with regards to another player at my table attempting to use Suggestion to have a friendly NPC hand over an artifact that was their most prized possession, given to them by their long-lost love, and specifically informed to keep it out of evil hands lest some calamity befall the entire world. I argued that such a request would not be considered reasonable given how important the artifact was to the character, and that he would need a stronger charm that would ensure total control of the NPC's mind to do so. He argued that the only thing that needed to be considered in terms of the suggestion being "reasonable" was whether the NPC could do it, and since it was just handing over an item, it was totally fine. In the end, the DM sided with him over me, though the end result of the suggestion sowed doubt in the NPC's mind and gave the artifact enough of a foothold to take over his mind, at which point he swooced out of the adventure with the artifact to be dealt with later possibly (we never did finish that campaign though). The rest of the party then beat up the wizard character for being so stupid.

(Ironically, the 2024 PHB spell description pretty much removes my argument for Suggestion, changing the wording from "reasonable" to "achievable." In that regard, it would align more with my friend's interpretation since giving an item is one of the simplest actions possible. It might still fail on the "not involve anything that would obviously deal damage to the target or its allies" condition, depending on how the DM interprets how the NPC thought about "the world would probably end if this got into the wrong hands," which I would think would involve much damage.)

But yeah, stronger spells are there for a reason. I appreciate creativity, but don't go trying to bullshit me into letting you win an encounter by imitating a high-level spell's effect with a low-level spell and a "dude trust me."
 
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AnOminous said:
So you could, taking that literally, basically turn it into an instadeath spell. After all, slashing your own throat is "achievable."
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Given the phrasing is now "You suggest a course of activity—described in no more than 25 words—to one creature you can see within range that can hear and understand you. The suggestion must sound achievable and not involve anything that would obviously deal damage to the target or it allies. For example, you could say, "Fetch the key to the cult's treasure vault, and give the key to me." Or you could say, "Stop fighting, leave this library peacefully, and don't return.""
This would obviously be harmful and break the spell's hold.
 
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GhastlyGhost said:
Given the phrasing is now "You suggest a course of activity—described in no more than 25 words—to one creature you can see within range that can hear and understand you. The suggestion must sound achievable and not involve anything that would obviously deal damage to the target or it allies. For example, you could say, "Fetch the key to the cult's treasure vault, and give the key to me." Or you could say, "Stop fighting, leave this library peacefully, and don't return.""
This would obviously be harmful and break the spell's hold.
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Oh good, so it sounds worse than it is. It's still really bad. Presumably you could bypass all kinds of things with a "simple" suggestion that nobody in their right mind would do. Presumably higher level NPCs have a better save still, but nevertheless, just gambling with it every time you got a chance would short-circuit a lot of things.

I'd personally just ignore that and stick with the "suggestion won't get someone to do something they wouldn't even consider." And again, it's because there are higher level spells like charm person/monster that are needed for that kind of thing.
 
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Judge Dredd said:
So far, none of the YouTubers who rushed to WotC's defense surprise me
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Considering the trend in Hollywood and big tech of ditching DEI and firing activists, who hurt the bottom line. I am happy with WOTC and 5E D&D faggoty doubling down on attacking Gary Gygax and fans. Sooner or later Hasbro themselves will get a CEO who will torch WOTC. Hasbro has already fire woke tards at WOTC as it is.
 
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Battlefield2142EU said:
Considering the trend in Hollywood and big tech of ditching DEI and firing activists, who hurt the bottom line. I am happy with WOTC and 5E D&D faggoty doubling down on attacking Gary Gygax and fans. Sooner or later Hasbro themselves will get a CEO who will torch WOTC. Hasbro has already fire woke tards at WOTC as it is.
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Man I hope so. I have a feeling that they doubled down so many times that they might not have any competent staff left. I guess they have that guy from Kobold Press writing the rules for them now, the little weapon skills thing (that he already printed for Midgard) were kind of neat when I played in a 5e game. So there's that I guess?

It'd be really nice if they just sold the fucking IP already but giant companies never let go of that sort of thing for whatever reason.
 
Mr. Manchester said:
It'd be really nice if they just sold the fucking IP already but giant companies never let go of that sort of thing for whatever reason.
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Hasbro especially, best you can hope for is that Hasbro will be dismembered when their poor business decisions catch up to them and have to be sold off in pieces to pay off their creditors. Knowing my luck, D&D will be purchased by Topps and licensed to Catalyst.
 
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Wizards can still linger if it decides to just do what other companies do and get rid of its meatspace office and stick to warehouses at most. Most companies in the TTRPG industry do that, since it is essentially a few weirdos self publishing in their houses, which has a low fee to produce, with a PO box to get things from. Maybe a storage unit for physical copies. Most expensive aspect is to actually pay your staff and your publisher, and Wizards already cuts the former.

What won't help them is their habit of using fiver hires made via DIE, er DEI, and then disposing of them the moment they don't need them anymore. Also doesn't help it was used as the punishment assignment for manglement.

Also fun fact: if you have homebrew, you can probably sell it. It's like a buck per page, so if you make like a 10 page booklet you can still sell it for like 5-8 bucks because that's how fucked this industry is.
 
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Adamska said:
Wizards can still linger if it decides to just do what other companies do and get rid of its meatspace office and stick to warehouses at most. Most companies in the TTRPG industry do that, since it is essentially a few weirdos self publishing in their houses, which has a low fee to produce, with a PO box to get things from. Maybe a storage unit for physical copies. Most expensive aspect is to actually pay your staff and your publisher, and Wizards already cuts the former.

What won't help them is their habit of using fiver hires made via DIE, er DEI, and then disposing of them the moment they don't need them anymore. Also doesn't help it was used as the punishment assignment for manglement.

Also fun fact: if you have homebrew, you can probably sell it. It's like a buck per page, so if you make like a 10 page booklet you can still sell it for like 5-8 bucks because that's how fucked this industry is.
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You know I always never get why not just wait terrible homebrew stuff I'd like at least at this point 900 pages of nonsense saved on my computer with my gibberish stick half done stuff
 
GhastlyGhost said:
Given the phrasing is now "You suggest a course of activity—described in no more than 25 words—to one creature you can see within range that can hear and understand you. The suggestion must sound achievable and not involve anything that would obviously deal damage to the target or it allies. For example, you could say, "Fetch the key to the cult's treasure vault, and give the key to me." Or you could say, "Stop fighting, leave this library peacefully, and don't return.""
This would obviously be harmful and break the spell's hold.
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so, let the npc walk off a cliff? it's certainly achievable and doesn't cause any damage...

Sargon's wife's son said:
You know I always never get why not just wait terrible homebrew stuff I'd like at least at this point 900 pages of nonsense saved on my computer with my gibberish stick half done stuff
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sounds like the next dnd edition.
 
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