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>Make joke about Americans not knowing metric and don't even have the deceny to translate what 3 meters means into proper measurements.
>Conservatives bad and evil.
>They invaded Algeria for no reason! Colonialists trying to justify conquest with nothing (Not putting down the Barbary pirates once and for all)
>This is a sign of what happens when conservative governments repeal liberal reforms (His spiel towards the last couple minutes).

This guy has defintely drunk the Kool-Aid and thinks Trump is Mega Hitler and the RethugliKKKans will turn the clock back to the 1820s day one. There is no attempt at looking into the psychology of the conservatives, as AM did when he covered Charles X and the Ultra-Royalists and how they did not want a repeat of the 1790s where all their families were getting haircuts provided for free via the revolution.
 
>Make joke about Americans not knowing metric and don't even have the deceny to translate what 3 meters means into proper measurements.
>Conservatives bad and evil.
>They invaded Algeria for no reason! Colonialists trying to justify conquest with nothing (Not putting down the Barbary pirates once and for all)
>This is a sign of what happens when conservative governments repeal liberal reforms (His spiel towards the last couple minutes).

This guy has defintely drunk the Kool-Aid and thinks Trump is Mega Hitler and the RethugliKKKans will turn the clock back to the 1820s day one. There is no attempt at looking into the psychology of the conservatives, as AM did when he covered Charles X and the Ultra-Royalists and how they did not want a repeat of the 1790s where all their families were getting haircuts provided for free via the revolution.
He was also heavily biased against the ceasarion populist factions and almost always accepted the narrative given by the optimates. By the end he was laying it thick that Trump and Ceasar is the same sort of person.
Of course he fails to see how that is extremely based
 
He was also heavily biased against the ceasarion populist factions and almost always accepted the narrative given by the optimates. By the end he was laying it thick that Trump and Ceasar is the same sort of person.
Of course he fails to see how that is extremely based
The anti-Caesarian figures ending up to be entirely made up of the richest Patrician families, opposed to any sort of reform favouring the Plebeians or, Jupiter forbid, non-Italians like say the Gallo-Romans of Cis-alpine and Trans-alpine Gaul, is funny, especially when you consider the fact that this guy is the most liberal libtard to ever exist. Really goes to show that libtards don't have actual principles or convictions, since it could be said that Caesar was a better representation of "progressive values" than any of the plodding Optimates were, and they just hate populism and are tyrants at the root of it.
 
He was also heavily biased against the ceasarion populist factions and almost always accepted the narrative given by the optimates. By the end he was laying it thick that Trump and Ceasar is the same sort of person.
Of course he fails to see how that is extremely based
Which is so bizarre given the anti-Ceasarians (Optimates technically didn't exist as a political faction but the historiography of the Roman Republican is neither here nor there) are exactly what he speaks against at the end of the July Revolution video, and arguably even worse. The Roman Republic had no history of violent revolutions (sans Sullan Civil War, the Gracchi, Marian Proscriptions) that at least in terms of comparison to the French Revolution were not violent social upheavals and in every single case the status quo conservatives putting down any reformist tendencies that would have preserved the Roman Senatorial system as it was for at least a few more generations.

He seems to fall into this group of people who romanticize the Late Republic despite how entrenched the corruption, general elitism, and class zealotry were. Even the Novo Homo from Marius and Sulla's time saw themselves as above the useless plebs begging for extensions to the Grain Dole and access to farmland bought up by a handful of wealthy Patricians to be turned into what were effectively plantations. And these are plantations that would make our modern corporate farms blush with how much power they held.

I'm fine with people believing that everything Caesar did was a cynical power move and he never really was a Populares, I mean he certainly did embellish his achievements and act outside of the law, but acting like he was the only one is absurd. Pompey isn't as great as he made himself out to be either. Boiling down Late Roman politics into good and bad like he seems to do isn't just wrong, it's fucking retarded because that stage of Roman history is more complex. Saying Caesar was just pretending to be a Populares and only cared about power, in my opinion at least, is wrong. If that was the case, he wouldn't have gone as far as he did with social reforms once he had actual power, and he didn't want to fight out a civil war in the first place. It was the Optimates who started the civil war by basically threatening every angle of lawfare against him, something Caesar knew too well.

Background, Caesar was a sitting senator during the Catiline Conspiracies (That he may have been attached to) that resulted in several close friends being executed. He was the nephew of Gaius Marius and due to that relation was at risk of being proscribed by Sulla when he seized Rome from the Marians. His family had a legacy of association with Populare figures like the Marius above. If Caesar was power hungry he simply would have joined rank with the Optimates or become another Sulla and proscribe everyone once he became dictator for life during his civil war (Which he should have done, would have saved his life).

TLDR Fuck the Optimates, the only thing Caesar did wrong was not kill them all.

Sorry for the essay, I could sperg about the Roman Republic all day if I wanted to.

Edit: Long Story short, it's clear that Historia Civilis buys into the End of History narrative intentionally or more likely unintentionally that all of human history is a long road to progress and that any deviation from that path is an aberration that must be destroyed. Especially when you consider how the Post-Revolutionary France middle-class emerged as a new power-elite and were arguably only fighting the aristocrats to preserve their new position at the top of French society.
 
Since I"m typing up a draft of James Lindsay's Schizobabble, would it be fair to call him the last of of the r/athesism neckbeards? He even has a katana ffs
 
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Not so much him going on about Athesism, but diving into his replies I'm struck by his "Why won't those stupid Christians listen to me? I read books!" pouting and how clearly he's still mad Grandma made him go to mass as a kid whenever he gets pushback on his claim to be defender of the faith.
 
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Not so much him going on about Athesism, but diving into his replies I'm struck by his "Why won't those stupid Christians listen to me? I read books!" pouting and how clearly he's still mad Grandma made him go to mass as a kid whenever he gets pushback on his claim to be defender of the faith.
He sounds like a massive faggot look foward to the thread.
 
It's harder going than I thought. He's legit losing it. sometimes I write a line and then have to make a note to include a tweet where he explains the old owner of the Detroit Tigers was trying to summon an Angel
Are you going to put it in Prospering Grounds, or elsewhere? I’ve been waiting on a thread for this ham schizo.
 
Are you going to put it in Prospering Grounds, or elsewhere? I’ve been waiting on a thread for this ham schizo.
PG. He's a retard with an inflated sense of self worth but he always was. The revelation he's also actually not a joke in the early stages of schizophrenia I think gives him something worth watching over more mundane politocows.

Edit: Also the second IDW RW'er on step on a landmine labeled 'Theosophy' in spectacular fashion
 
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>Make joke about Americans not knowing metric and don't even have the deceny to translate what 3 meters means into proper measurements.
>Conservatives bad and evil.
>They invaded Algeria for no reason! Colonialists trying to justify conquest with nothing (Not putting down the Barbary pirates once and for all)
>This is a sign of what happens when conservative governments repeal liberal reforms (His spiel towards the last couple minutes).

This guy has defintely drunk the Kool-Aid and thinks Trump is Mega Hitler and the RethugliKKKans will turn the clock back to the 1820s day one. There is no attempt at looking into the psychology of the conservatives, as AM did when he covered Charles X and the Ultra-Royalists and how they did not want a repeat of the 1790s where all their families were getting haircuts provided for free via the revolution.
This is old news, the guy has been comparing X historical reactionary to trump for 8 years now. The only worse current year takes I’ve seen on Roman history came from extra credits.

Actually extra credits might actually be better because they at least recognize the Ceasarians are much closer to their prog beliefs then the optimates . I will never understand liberal or leftist optimates enjoyers when by the Overton window of the Roman republic they ranged from like moderate conservatives to ultra reactionaries if you are gonna attempt to translate them into the modern day (which i don’t recommend anyways)
 
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Actually extra credits might actually be better because they at least recognize the Ceasarians are much closer to their prog beliefs then the optimates . I will never understand liberal or leftist optimates enjoyers when by the Overton window of the Roman republic they ranged from like moderate conservatives to ultra reactionaries if you are gonna attempt to translate them into the modern day (which i don’t recommend anyways)
The simple answer is this: modern day “liberals” aren’t really liberal — they’re hyper pro-establishment with religious woke embellishing tossed in.
 
The simple answer is this: modern day “liberals” aren’t really liberal — they’re hyper pro-establishment with religious woke embellishing tossed in.
That seems to the only reasonable conclusion. I think a part of it Roman historiography making the late Roman republic seem like it’s similar to modern day representative democracies when that really wasn’t the case. For the Roman’s it was a choice of oligarchy or Caesar, not democracy or Caesar. In the case of most laymen this argument is forgivable but coming from HC it comes across as willful disinformation to craft a current year narrative.
 
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