Megathread Trannies posting their L's Online - Heckin valid people posting their funny misfortunes on the internet

There are a differences between bladder function in males and females. However, size is mostly determined by body size not sex. You know what is up against the female bladder that can cause more frequent peeing, the uterus. It's just a fetish story, pretty sure Troons think that panty liners are something that all women have to wear because they see them in the female hygiene aisle at the store.
I easily believed he pissed himself but yeah it's not because estrogen "shrunk" his bladder. Like virtually every troon out there he must have fucked up his urinary tract in some way.
 
Side note: ask any troon what their favorite video game is and it is Silent Hill 2. Why is this you may ask? Well the protagonist is a moid who is haunted by his own sexual deviancy appearing in the form of a large pyramid headed man with an oversized anime sword.
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Me but with fallout new vegas. Trannies flock to that game and I don't know why.
It's just another thing that trannies likes because trannies are supposed to like it. It's like that shark. Someone just put fallout new vegas in one of those "trans starter pack" memes, and now every troon has to like it.
 
THANK YOU FOR THIS SANITY. You have no ideaaaa how hard it is to find reasonable people who don't think "a literally dying woman not wanting to have sex makes it okay to murder her" is a good argument. I used to go into threads for the game and just feel like I was missing something or losing my mind because I remember the story so clearly and I thought James was such a shit. I literally saw someone try to argue that Mary was abusive and so James had "no choice" but to murder her because she threw something one time while emotionally upset and dying... it's bad out there. Anyway, thank you for this voice of sanity holy crap.
Yeah I've heard the "well Mary was abusive" cope before myself, its fucking retarded and usually from people who are either emotionally stunted or immature, no shit she was abusive, she was fucking dying and angry. And the In Water and Leave endings, the endings where James accepts the truth and no longer lives in denial, James himself mentions that excuse, and the "mercy killing" idea and rejects the idea himself, literally says "no thats not true, the truth is I resented you" to her ghost.
Its an emotional story and deals with some really dark themes and thats what makes it so memorable, gameplay wise its similar to Resident Evil and Dino Crisis and a bunch of top down tank control horror games of the time, but what makes Silent Hill 2 in particular stand out is its psychological aspects, if you're paying attention and get invested in the story it makes you take a look into some really dark and disturbing themes, and that I think it what makes it stick in the mind even two decades later. I just don't think some people, Troons especially, are even emotionally mature enough to begin to understand just how deep and incredibly fucked up its story is.
I might be missing the joke, but... a dog is controlling everything, an ending you can't even get on the first playthrough? I heard there is no canonical ending, though the dog and the UFO are just Easter eggs. A lot of people seem to prefer "in water" over the other endings.
Not just any dog. A Shiba Inu. Its just like real life. Free Will is an illusion, we're all secretly controlled by a Shiba Inu wearing headphones.
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Seriously though, In Water is probably the most relevant and fitting ending and going by later games hints (even though they aren't made by the OG Team Silent) the one thats officially canon. The Leave ending is the "good ending" as James gets to leave Silent Hill, but after everything you learn in that story, he was kind of an asshole that deserved to be in Silent Hill to begin with.
The best attempt at a troon-friendly definiton of wamen I've seen went along the lines of; "Those who makes a good faith effort to live within the societally defined role of woman", but even that falls victim to 'but what does society define woman as?' trap, it's just offloading the definition to the public.
The bottom line of it all is that troons want to be women, and to be a woman is also to them to be seen to be a woman, and the vast majority of people will never perceive them as such. They shall know no peace.
It's why they get so hung up over pronouns, even though if they truly believed they were women regardless it would not matter the descriptors others give as they'd be a woman even if the world disagreed, but instead it constantly reminds them that other people do not perceive them as women, and that cannot stand and thus you MUST not misgender them as to do so is a threat to their own self-perception.
I have never seen a Troon thats able to give a definition of what a Woman is that isn't a fallacious circular definition.
They twist and squirm and try to come up with semantic games because they know that one question makes them look like the fucking idiots they are and they hate it.
They can't give a definition that makes sense that doesn't exclude them and they know it, hence the slippery word games.
As soon as you stop playing those games they lose their power. Thing is Troons know that nobody, even their "allies," even themselves, really sees them as actual women, and they fucking hate it.
A huge part of their fetish is forcing others to have to play along with it.
Making them define "what is a woman" makes their fucking girldicks shrivel and takes all the fun out of their LARP and forces them to crash back into reality, where they are a ghoulish ugly man in a dress and the thing Troons hate the most is reality.
 
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I'll never not find it funny how much Troons love to shit on Pooners. The heccin' valid doods can't catch a break, nobody takes them seriously.
My mental image of pooners trying to assert themselves is basically this:
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The best attempt at a troon-friendly definiton of wamen I've seen went along the lines of; "Those who makes a good faith effort to live within the societally defined role of woman", but even that falls victim to 'but what does society define woman as?' trap, it's just offloading the definition to the public.
Eventually you have to acknowledge the biological definition. What’s the socially defined role of a woman? Ultimately, someone who bears children. That’s the only qualification for a woman and only a woman.
 
My mental image of pooners trying to assert themselves is basically this:
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Eventually you have to acknowledge the biological definition. What’s the socially defined role of a woman? Ultimately, someone who bears children. That’s the only qualification for a woman and only a woman.
Troons then go to 'but what about infertile women?' and muddy the waters further, which is why I like the radfem definition that has become more mainstream. Adult human female.
 
The bottom line of it all is that troons want to be women, and to be a woman is also to them to be seen to be a woman, and the vast majority of people will never perceive them as such. They shall know no peace.
It's why they get so hung up over pronouns, even though if they truly believed they were women regardless it would not matter the descriptors others give as they'd be a woman even if the world disagreed, but instead it constantly reminds them that other people do not perceive them as women, and that cannot stand and thus you MUST not misgender them as to do so is a threat to their own self-perception.
I feel like the trans community would have known peace if they admitted that they want to be female instead of a woman. Their downfall in my opinion was when they confused society about what they want. When people think of a transgender person they think of someone who wants to change their sex from male and female and society knows that's impossible. Yet the trans community insisted that they aren't changing their sex, but their gender. This is where the confusion started. They can't define woman without resorting to sexist roles that society claims women do (Cooking, makeup, dresses, overemotional crying, etc) and yet if you point out women who still identify as women but don't do those things then they just say "A woman is anyone who identifies as one." They could have just admitted that they just want to live life as a gender non conforming man who loves to cross dress and do feminine things and stated that they wish they were female but knew it was impossible. Instead, the community bent off backwards to insist they really were women and wanted society to change everything we knew to please them.
We're jealous they're so good at BBQing trays of veggies.
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I remember this picture. I guess my mother, and aunts are men because they all love to barbecue in the summer.
 
This is classic hilarity. I remember when this was first posted, and it's a masterpiece of funny. The wonky chest, the veggie "bbq", the massive safety gloves (especially when combined with the bare chest)...
Its almost like deliberate satire, she's "finally learning to grill with the boys" and they get her to BBQ a tray of fucking veggies for some reason. Not a big juicy Rib Eye steak, not some Lamb Chops, not even Burgers, a tray of vegetables.
And she's wearing gloves that look like they should be used for spot welding.
With no top on, to show off her heccin' valid top surgery scars. Theres just so much retarded shit in that one picture. The backwards baseball cap tops it off. I can almost hear Fred Durst singing "Break Stuff" in the background. So heccin' manly. That pic gives me Woodstock '99 flashbacks. So valid.
 
Its almost like deliberate satire, she's "finally learning to grill with the boys" and they get her to BBQ a tray of fucking veggies for some reason. Not a big juicy Rib Eye steak, not some Lamb Chops, not even Burgers, a tray of vegetables.
And she's wearing gloves that look like they should be used for spot welding.
With no top on, to show off her heccin' valid top surgery scars. Theres just so much retarded shit in that one picture. The backwards baseball cap tops it off. I can almost hear Fred Durst singing "Break Stuff" in the background. So heccin' manly. That pic gives me Woodstock '99 flashbacks. So valid.
Barbecue veggies are tasty, I won't fault her for preferring that. I do fault her for those ridiculous gloves. I make no pretensions of masculinity yet I've still never felt the need to wear safety gear to grill. I also didn't need a double mastectomy to learn how, I just watched the men in my life do it a few times and then tried it for myself. Turns out it wasn't difficult, I managed to make some decent tenderloin. Served it with potatoes and some chanterelles I found in the forest. I guess that's a pretty manly meal, huh?
 
... which is why I like the radfem definition that has become more mainstream. Adult human female.
Interesting how traditional normal people common sense is now "radfem".


Finally maybe getting it, but a little too late and still beguiled by the ideology. :roll:

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I'm 26, 3.5 years on T, from low dose for first two years to full dose the last year, and a few months on injections now. I've had top surgery. My likely pure-O mind is asking completely reasonable questions about whether 1) transness is a real thing scientifically proven, or whether it is something we help each other out with regarding the make-believe and 2) whether I am personally one of those people who is "internally a man".

I've bolded bits so you can skim, even if everything seems too much.

If you do not feel ready to, or want to give very simple answers in the comments that I have already heard, please just don't engage with this post.

I have already established I likely started transitioning because of inequality between the sexes.
I don't think anyone can debate that this is a reasonable conclusion that some cis females also draw: this body is weaker (physically) than cis men's, this body has the ability to dehumanize me with pregnancy, that is not often under my control, and it generally the biology taunts me with all sorts of inconveniences.

The societal aspects certainly play into it, no doubt, but I looked up "how to get more testosterone as a female" at 13yo specifically for 1) safety 2) self-respect and 3) practical purposes (not in order of importance). The biological aspects of the body are in the way of my self-actualisation and feeling "fully human", in a sense that can not be mitigated by social progress alone, and in cis women might at any point be taken away - by being made to exist for another being's benefit and pleasure, not your own.
I perceive myself as existing for my own pleasure, and perhaps to think or something, or make someone else's situation better in a way that does not take anything away from me but gives me, also, something. That, to me, is being alive.

The last bit led to me thinking that this must be gender dysphoria: after all, it had nothing to do with the kind of clothes I wore (aiming for what is normal and stylish and looks good, not a particular gendered expression). Only with the biological aspects. And from that, something I often hear is that:

> but you also don't like how it looks, and that has no right or wrong answer, that isn't to do with sexism!

....except it could be. A female "look" could be a shorthand and a symbol, for everything I feel this deep seated FOMO about.

So I am not sure that there is also underlying actual dysphoria, or if it is all an amalgamation of what kind of a life I picked apart and decided would be "overall better" for my future, career, physical well being, the expectations I am able to meet or even entertain from others (none, really), the risk profile, physical inconveniences and my sense of being a full person.

I don't want to detransition, and the conservatives' newfound essentialist nonsense of "accepting femaleness/womanhood" feels like misery just loves company, and loves cheating other people out of their piece of the pie, depriving me of pleasure, freedom, resources, respect and THAT is why the TERFs want it to end for me so bad.
They would love company in a suffering they can not escape from.
I keep getting dismissed on either ethical grounds, as "oh god that's horrible, how could you think these things about women?" or based on "if you're not really a trans man, don't do this!!" and other kneejerk reactions, or getting told to "get help for the pure-O and stfu".

And for the record, I do not think cis women, or even TERFy women for that matter should or deserve to suffer. I kind of just find they inevitably do, not even because of society, and I struggle to understand the feminist point about "is" vs "ought" when it comes to the physical and biological - those things don't lend itself to much correction, even in the best of societies. Yes, the levels of respect and kindness both experience should be the same... but the levels of pain from giving birth literally can not. The risks of getting an UTI from sex, or the damage a pregnancy does to a human body, those literally can not be changed. They have been for eons, and they will continue to be. At least, we can never societally unmake the fact that one would be giving away resources and nutrients, and share the body with another being, and that they naturally experience mood fluctuations from hormones.

I also do not think life is a peachy ride as a guy, far from it. Let alone a trans guy's life. I have lived it for some time now, so I would know, and I'm involved in a couple of men's initiatives, including being against conscription and circumcision. The men and women who speak up against those things are good people, and when the loneliness stuff gets brought up, that is not recognised enough.

Men's bodies and inner emotionally complex beings are simply not appreciated enough. That is something I see and believe, and I don't think that makes me a bad person. So I certainly don't take the transmisandrist arguments about "giving up female beauty" or any of that nonsense seriously, and don't need to be convinced of that.

This fight feels more my own than feminist ones, but I am not sure this is not because well... who would not want to be on the side that wins, even in a small, marginal win of no pregnancy?

The tendency to think deeper isn't in itself a flaw in my eyes, and it's not super ultra special enough to be considered a disorder either, but nevertheless I have that diagnosis.
For example, I am a financial crime investigator. And oftentimes, when in some people's eyes I "overthink", more often than not, I have been right about something that others were being sloppy about, and found out about something suspicious going on. I have avoided death from sloppily prescribed medicines by reading the leaflet carefully. I have avoided burning the house down, because if not for due diligence, my ADHD absolutely would have rendered that my lived reality.

I feel like sometimes, people are being sloppy about their internal identities, and it feels almost like a lot are threatened by a deeper analysis, especially coming from another trans (maybe?) person. However, I am not asking for those who are not ready to delve into it to open themselves up. This is clearly not your area, so please just don't engage; perhaps there are others who are willing?

Besides the simpler answers, I'm also anticipating a response about my personality or "oh wow ur insufferable". I've heard that too, and I don't care. I am only here to discuss the gender identity stuff specifically, so please keep ad hominems and value judgements to yourself.

I don't think I can live without coherent proof that somewhere inside, there is
a man. But I also can not just believe it when it is told to me and not backed up. How would someone on the outside know I am not just telling them what they want to hear because I've thought through all the possible responses?!

I don't have many feelings day to day, except for frustration, fear of detransitioning and giving up the good stuff, and pleasure from good food, sex, a good story or achievement, sometimes being in nature. But I have a lot of thoughts.

I've thought about it from a neurological perspective, but there is no definitive proof, at least not as much as there is proof that says "it's autism and you couldn't handle that as a woman = sexism is the cause".
Even if there are trans brains, i am not convinced mine would be one of them, as I do enjoy a great deal of feminine things, just not the shitty ones that can harm your body permanently, or are derived from biology.
I've had scans done on my abdomen, so I know there isn't any hidden gonads or intersex conditions, my medical history doesn't allude to anything like that. I'm not very man-like in build to start with, so nothing there lends itself to any sort of legitimacy of an "internally male" sense of self.

I don't know if I ever had genuine dysphoria. Most of my pre-transition life breezed by, telling myself to not think about things, and the first parts of transition as well. I always felt like I should have more dysphoria, but I just looked objective reality in the face, probably dissociated, and decided it was simply "not a great start" and needed to be "fixed", so that's what I did.
It could be dissociative dysphoria, or it could be absence of dysphoria and an actual choice I made. I can't tell.

There were some inklings of male identity in rare, warm feelings, but I now think they were a figment of just idolizing a less analytical, more innocent and less anxious childhood that I could have had, were I raised as a boy.

I don't feel euphoria now, very much, it's just more normal. It doesn't cause me distress that the body has changed, but I don't feel much either way.

Sometimes I wish the scars on chest would go away, but overall, my chest is just ok. I never connected with what was there much, more so it made me feel like I would be put in an unfavourable position in life, that they didn't look good in men's clothing, and what I have now just feels like the default. Not everything has changed yet, but it's just fine. It's just the body, it feels fine to move around in, the future changes feel like they will solidify a future I imagine for myself.

Previously, I would feel some shame about how I am seen, feel ridiculous or stumpy, perhaps some disconnect from it and sense that it does not fit to represent my mind, and an inability to extend empathy to myself, but not much else. Sometimes I see a guy in the mirror, and I feel that empathy is now deserved.
But that could be a function of just not extending empathy to women, because that could be too unjust and painful - kind of joking here, but I think to myself - who put a soul and brain that yearns for freedom inside someone so ill-fit to be in control of their life and body, purely physically? That sounds sad, and torturous.

I don't think I hate women, I love a great deal of them, but saying that I don't or that I support their causes passionately and their rights are my rights (and they often aren't, like with surrogacy) makes me recoil in the thought that if that is true, i could be one of them and if everything could be truly equal, maybe I could have gone without transitioning, and I am not a man after all - proof that I am NOT a man. I could be of course, but a "trans man who simply cares about women" sounds like the whole thing about albino zebras and white horses... sure, but it could be just another cis women who simply wants equality, and that's the much likelier option than those things existing simultaneously.

I struggle to understand my wife, who is trans, but then I remember that most of the nastier effects of (cis) womanhood are not available to her, and I am secretly glad. She may not be entirely glad for it, but I am glad she does not get to inflict pain on herself or be inflicted upon. She does that anyway, and any more is too much to see in a loved one. She gets to build a career in a male field in a male body for now, and I think that will be better for her self esteem, and the rest can be remedied as she grows into her female self, as we can not speed it up anyway.

I've also heard that one should be doing these things based on feelings, but I can't seem to and never seem to be able to figure those out for the life of me. It's like I only react to the world, i seek pleasure, and I seek to avoid pain, and that's the kind of creature I am, and that's what has led me here.
How do you seek any truths behind that?
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I'll check back later unless someone beats me to it.
Prediction: It will be deleted soon. Maybe by the pooner, maybe by the moderator.
 
Strictly speaking it is not. A circular definition goes like:
  • A woman is any person who have womanly internal thinking
  • Womanly internal thinking is the kind of internal thinking practiced by a woman
The troon leaves "womanly internal thinking" undefined, so the circle is not complete.
"A woman is anyone who says they are a woman" is a circular definition. Your example is circular reasoning.

Troons then go to 'but what about infertile women?' and muddy the waters further, which is why I like the radfem definition that has become more mainstream. Adult human female.
It's not even the 'radfem' definition. It's (and I use the word 'literal', literally, here) the literal dictionary definition.

I'm 26, 3.5 years on T, from low dose for first two years to full dose the last year, and a few months on injections now. I've had top surgery. My likely pure-O mind is asking completely reasonable questions about whether 1) transness is a real thing scientifically proven, or whether it is something we help each other out with regarding the make-believe and 2) whether I am personally one of those people who is "internally a man".

The rant from this pooner is too long and too achingly stupid to bother with, but I'ma quote some of it here to vent a pet peeve:

Nobody the fuck thinks 'transness' isn't 'real' or 'scientifically proven'. When people say 'so you don't think trans people exist'? they think they have a gotcha.

No: I believe trans people exist, I just don't believe that trans women are women. Nor do any of your thoughts have any relationship whatsoever to the question of whether you are a woman. Whether you are a woman is a fixed, immutable fact related to the gamete type your body was organised around whilst you were in your mother's womb.
 
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We're jealous they're so good at BBQing trays of veggies.
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That almost perfectly flat chest and then the extremely female ass almost has me cackling. Then I start studying the image more closely and I notice her pube beard that looks like it belongs on a sweaty, atheist neckbeard in a fedora. The safety glove looks like something you'd wear while you're blowing white hot glass. And the size of the grill compared to the pooner and then the pathetic tray of veggies.
You go, lil' dood! Get that euphoria!
 
So I am not sure that there is also underlying actual dysphoria, or if it is all an amalgamation of what kind of a life I picked apart and decided would be "overall better" for my future, career, physical well being, the expectations I am able to meet or even entertain from others (none, really), the risk profile, physical inconveniences and my sense of being a full person.

I don't want to detransition, and the conservatives' newfound essentialist nonsense of "accepting femaleness/womanhood" feels like misery just loves company, and loves cheating other people out of their piece of the pie, depriving me of pleasure, freedom, resources, respect and THAT is why the TERFs want it to end for me so bad.
They would love company in a suffering they can not escape from.
I keep getting dismissed on either ethical grounds, as "oh god that's horrible, how could you think these things about women?" or based on "if you're not really a trans man, don't do this!!" and other kneejerk reactions, or getting told to "get help for the pure-O and stfu".
TLDR: I got molested a lot as a female child and my brain keeps telling me I can't identify out of my vulnerable position as a woman in a society that feels entitled to my body but I refuse to listen. Damn TERFs and Trump denying me my delusion!

I read the whole thing. This is a neurotic chick who knows not even deep down but right at the surface that manhood is not a costume one can pull over her wide hips and chopped tits to fool society into thinking she isn't vulnerable. She knows. She ruminates on it constantly, blaming TERFs for the criticism coming from her own mind.

I don't like the stereotype that all pooners were touched in their no-no place and are trying to identify out of womanhood but this one is clearly exactly that. She likely grew up without a strong female role model who could demonstrate to her that women can be more than wife and broodmare thus her burning desire to opt out of this fate. The misogyny is coming from inside the house!

Prediction: She's gonna go all the way. She'll rush into a rotdog thinking if only she can be done with transition, finally her mind will be at peace and she'll reach ultimate man form. We all know how that turns out.

Godspeed, lil pooner. See you in the SRS thread. Idiot.
 
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