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Is it over?

  • Yes, I am sad and need a Ben backrub :(

    Votes: 331 31.8%
  • No, we will be back, autism too strong

    Votes: 528 50.7%
  • Cams down until we roll into Bloodgames 2

    Votes: 183 17.6%

  • Total voters
    1,042
honestly at this point I think the 'contest' is unsalvageable and irrelevant. I think even Frank coming back will be neither cathartic nor entertaining, because he really only works when the Fish aren't this close to the finish line. it's not like he's going to hassle anyone out on day 37(of 42) or whenever he's coming back. at most you'd just get binx and payton harpy screeching and/or sobbing in the confessional/bathrooms for 5 days. if you wanna see that, that's cool, but yeah sounds like nontent to me.

at this point, my ideal final week would be them flying in a bunch of fishtank alumni and just partying and doing retarded shit/embarrassing challenges for fishbucks for a few days. bring in the bloodgames cast, frank, maybe even josie. hell bring back mizzy too, she seems keen to mog payton and binx at this point, and it's funny (in a spanish shame kind of way) to watch her thirst for sam.

the current trajectory does not spark joy, and i'd rather just see people i like having fun than to retardedly worry about some kind of cathartic moral victory here.
The show needs a clear arc for a satisfying ending though. Whether that be in the form of a long challenge, or one final bit.. there needs to be some kind of structure and story telling for it to be complete.

S1 had that. S2 did not.

I think your idea works well, have a party for a couple of days and let everyone interact with eachother. But then we need something to end on.

My worry and most likely scenario is it will be slapped together on the last day after Jet takes a fat rip of galaxy gas.
 
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I understand and agree with your point about voting strategies, but I'm not sure I was clear in my point.
The wiggers saying "only the OG fish can win unless they all get eliminated" is a completely redundant sentence. In other words; to win the show you have to win the show.
The way it was explained to the fish was that the new fish couldn't win if there were still old fish left: as in, if at the end of the show, it's just Binx and new fish, Binx wins. They were explicitly told they didn't need to remove the new fish.
 
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Burt is complaining that the Act 3 stuff only lasted for 4 days but was clearly supposed to last for the rest of the Fishtank. There's no contestants or freeloaders, there's no competitions, the house is a mess, but he feels the writers and production have no clue where the show is supposed to go and he's no idea how they can keep creating content for the next 9 days.
Another Burt iteration has arrived: Enlightened Burt
 
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Burt is complaining that the Act 3 stuff only lasted for 4 days but was clearly supposed to last for the rest of the Fishtank. There's no contestants or freeloaders, there's no competitions, the house is a mess, but he feels the writers and production have no clue where the show is supposed to go and he's no idea how they can keep creating content for the next 9 days.
This was the culmination of all his theorizing: figuring out what the audience already knew yesterday.
 
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Luke accidentally broke one of the modern art pieces that came with the house, and then broke it some more because it was so flimsy. Payton's making her birthday wish that everyone comes back ("because if Burt got his burtday wish, I should get mine"). Fatty's trying to get them to film a bit about the house being infested with SCPs.
 
Breezy went live after she was eliminated and literally nobody gives a fuck. It's up on her IG profile if anyone cares but it's honestly not even worth watching or archiving. She's been posting Fishtank stuff for a while but has been getting very low engagement. Brandon has been commenting on her posts. Also didn't see this mentioned before but Brandon claims to be "Cherokee Native" in his insta profile, lmao.
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They supported children doing drag, which they don't equate with grooming or rape. Payton had vaguely heard of Lactacia. Burt didn't really seem to know what was going on and mostly just felt bad for Brandon, and when asked if he support a kid doing drag in the context of a lot of shouting he initially said yes (but having been pressed further has stressed that he thinks children should wait till they're adults, it's just fine for them to grow up wanting to be drag queens). Binx was shown a photo that Brandon didn't take featuring a RuPaul's Drag Race contestant in an inappropriate state of undress with Lactacia that she didn't approve of but stated wasn't anything to do with Brandon, and that he shouldn't have featured it on his web page next to nudity. Luke was also shown that but basically just said he doesn't really care and he was mostly doing it as a bit (like when he was trying to put Binx on trial for having gay sex). Da Boyz privately sided with Luke, but then didn't say anything else, which suggests they were mostly just going along with what the alpha chad contestant was saying because they thought he was cool. Brandon meanwhile continually lied about what happened and insisted he'd just fulfilled a custom drag request for a kid.
Thanks for laying this out, its the clearest description of what each person was shown and more specific about what they were even saying/claiming/defending. It had been pretty unclear for me up until now and a lot of people seem to just react to all of this shit with "omg child rape defenders" when its evidently not the case.

All that is clear is that what was presented to people was extremely convoluted and retarded (and as you mention, happened on a show where people are continuously gaslit and shown fake shit). The whole kiddy dragshow thing IMHO is basically nontent (meaning that although kiddy dragshows are degenerate, the whole kerfuffle about them and whether people support or are against them in the context of the show is stupid).

Production fucked it up by not having their shit straight and they should've just booted Brandon instead of trying whatever the fuck it is that they tried which failed and just lead to a whole bunch of convoluted, unsubstantiated and unclear accusations and autism since then. I get why people are very angry about kiddy drag shows to begin with but given how the evidence was presented it has just ended up being a total clusterfuck instead of a black/white situation where "kiddy dragshows are good/bad".

There's far too much vagueness in everything related to this shit and its sad because it detracted heavily from the mood and atmosphere of the show and its annoying that it still keeps getting brought up like every 10 minutes when the way it was introduced and dealt with was shit to begin with.
 
When did anyone on the show get asked about "child rape" specifically (and not renounce it)?
You seem to really conflate the whole kiddy dragshow shit with both grooming and child rape - grooming I can understand but AFAIK there is no material accusation or court judgement concerning child rape. And I'm not just saying this shit to be contrarian to you, but "child rape" isn't a part of the story and has never been.

What I see as having happened is that kiddy dragshow shit somehow become normalized through mass media. A contestant who makes kiddy dragshow costumes for young kids joined the show and also has some bad history or some shit. There's some modeling shots or some shit with a kid in drag and supposedly next to some guy who is naked.

The contestants were put in a position of "do you or do you not accept the concept of kiddy dragshows (which has been normalized to some extent via mass media)"

AFAIK none of the contestants were put in a position of "do you or do you not accept the concept of child rape & grooming"

And I get where you're coming from, that grooming/rape probably result from kiddy dragshows and that its fucked up that its normalized to begin with and that someone like Brandon has no qualms at all about it - but it feels like a reach to keep bringing up "child rape" when there's no criminal charge or accusation for it.
Making a 9 year old kid dress in drag and take part in drag shows and queer culture in gerneral is rape. I don't care what anyone says, a child should not be taking part in that nor would they ever take part in that willingly without the influence of a predatory adult. If you think this child isn't going to be mentally effected by the choices the adults in his life made for him, you are wrong. Kids should never be a part of any sexual culture and when they are forced to be they are being raped end of story.

Imagine spending Thanksgiving defending child drag shows. Kill yourself.
 
There is only one good ending. The Burt ending. Nobody in the cast has even come close to earning that money the way Burt has. He gets extremely involved in every single challenge and character he does to the point where people (including his own parents) seriously worry about his mental health. He has given an incredible performance. Even with this stupid maga burt jersey accent he hasn't really dropped it since he started. Performing every single day with all of his heart for 6 weeks earns him 50k. And he's definitely made AT LEAST 50k for the wiggers. He's a man who is ALWAYS conscious of the audience and what he's there to do. Binx has done well but she hasn't put nearly as much effort in as Burt, nor has she suffered nearly as much. Payton isn't even worth touching on (I'm looking at you, Simbal).

I'm so tired of people complaining about the morality of Burt when it comes to winning the grand prize. Sorry but if you think Luke should win for being le based Chad (with a total screen time about one week right now), you're retarded. I like Luke too but come the fuck on. What kind of ending would that be? Give a guy who already has his shit figured out and is loved by the production 50k cause he's a good guy?

This is Fishtank. The remaining people, hate them or not, have earned a chance at 50k even if they aren't the ideal top 3. But of those three people (and of the original 12), Burt has absolutely EARNED the 50k grand prize for the entertainment he has provided, his amazing attitude towards making a good show, and the mental anguish he has gone through having his disease used against him to make him a hilarious spectacle for us, the audience. And if in a final act of insane naivety, kindness, or just sheer retardation Burt splits the 50k twelve ways to give everyone about 3k regardless of what they did to earn it, I think there would be something quite poetic to that. And aside from the 50k, he absolutely deserves the title of Season 3 Champion for being the greatest fishtank contestant of all time.
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Making a 9 year old kid dress in drag and take part in drag shows and queer culture in gerneral is rape. I don't care what anyone says, a child should not be taking part in that nor would they ever take part in that willingly without the influence of a predatory adult. If you think this child isn't going to be mentally effected by the choices the adults in his life made for him, you are wrong. Kids should never be a part of any sexual culture and when they are forced to be they are being raped end of story.

Imagine spending Thanksgiving defending child drag shows. Kill yourself.
I think kids should be kept far, far away from drag - beyond age appropriate dress up from a dressing up box, if that's what they want to play around with. I don't think "kids doing drag is the same as rape" is exactly a mainstream opinion, and I think you're being an annoying retard by insisting that all the fish on the show are basically child rapists. Especially given the rumours around Sam Hyde.
I'm also not American so Thanksgiving is meaningless to me. You seem to be, so imagine arguing about the peepeepoopoo bullying autists show on Thanksgiving. Shouldn't you be helping your Mom with the turkey?
 
I think kids should be kept far, far away from drag - beyond age appropriate dress up from a dressing up box, if that's what they want to play around with. I don't think "kids doing drag is the same as rape" is exactly a mainstream opinion, and I think you're being an annoying retard by insisting that all the fish on the show are basically child rapists. Especially given the rumours around Sam Hyde.
I'm also not American so Thanksgiving is meaningless to me. You seem to be, so imagine arguing about the peepeepoopoo bullying autists show on Thanksgiving. Shouldn't you be helping your Mom with the turkey?
I never said Binx and Payton are child rapists, I said they support child rapists, because they did.
 
The show needs a clear arc for a satisfying ending though. Whether that be in the form of a long challenge, or one final bit.. there needs to be some kind of structure and story telling for it to be complete.

S1 had that. S2 did not.

I think your idea works well, have a party for a couple of days and let everyone interact with eachother. But then we need something to end on.

Could have Sam tell the S3 cast they suck and gaslight them that all the freeloaders are now eligible for the $50k. Get em rattled and force em to compete. Would be funny as shit if they convinced the S3 cast that fuckin Greg was about to walk out with $50k after being there for like two days lol. At this point, Binx is 100% convinced she's going to win, and has been since it was the final 5, so unless they put some pressure on her she's just going to coast and "UwU thanks BinxKnight for the plushie" for the next week. Payton is a great competitor when you actually give her shit to do. Burt's just going to Burt off and get into autistic feedback loops with TTS regardless of what happens. It's too late in the game to introduce anyone new, so bring in some charismatic old Fish and let's have fun.
 
Making a 9 year old kid dress in drag and take part in drag shows and queer culture in gerneral is rape. I don't care what anyone says, a child should not be taking part in that nor would they ever take part in that willingly without the influence of a predatory adult. If you think this child isn't going to be mentally effected by the choices the adults in his life made for him, you are wrong. Kids should never be a part of any sexual culture and when they are forced to be they are being raped end of story.

Imagine spending Thanksgiving defending child drag shows. Kill yourself.
I never said that they should participate in that shit nor did I defend kiddy drag shows to begin with?

All I did was point out that you conflated a kiddy dragshow (which is a concept that has been normalized to some extent by mass media) with actual rape, which it isn't.

You still fail to understand that "actual rape" in the context of how I am discussing it pertains to an accusation, arrest or court case - meaning that if that existed someone would be able to say "This is Brandon, he was arrested for child rape 3 years ago, is he a bad person"? If you want to say that kiddy drag shows are as bad as rape then you're more than welcome to, but you're totally missing the point by fucking miles of what I was saying.

Whatever your or my personal feelings may be about kiddy drag shows they are not illegal and do not carry a criminal penalty or charge. That is what I was getting at.
 
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