Is there a time where Cultural or Idea Erasure is justified? - Aka a time where a media/idea deserves to get Cultural Revolutioned out of existence.

[Thiletonomics]

During history, there have been numerous instances or attempts to erase a forum of culture, whether it'd be book burning, mass persecutions, or destroying landmarks. Two notable examples include the many monuments destroyed by Muslims, and the Chinese Communist Party's mass attempt with the Chinese Cultural Revolution.

And while on the other hand, there's many attempts to keep media/ideas/culture in general preserved for historical purposes, is there any form of such that would be better off for the World, if it were to be erased and no one ever has a memory of it ever existing? Karl Marx's ideals of Communism and the biggest media failure in history in Concord come to mind, since Communism has been tried numerous times and failed miserably, and almost no one was a genuine fan of Concord, outside of journos, the creators themselves, and male feminists.

 

[CallmeCicada]

> Genocide
> Communism
> Cultural Revolution
> Concord

lmfao

 

[Brightstar777]

I'm with erasing niggers out of existence

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

You are genuinely retarded.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

If "smartphone culture" and "social media culture" somehow ended, that could erase "identity politics" from mainstream influence?

 

[DickMain]

Is there a time where Cultural or Idea Erasure is justified? - Aka a time where a media/idea deserves to get Cultural Revolutioned out of existence.​

This Islam thing has been getting real old for the last couple thousand years.

 

[Tar&FeatherFurrys]

Preserve everything, let their failures and shortcomings hold as a monument to their sins.

If you destroy/erase something it will inevitably return as these idea's are not unique and can be conceptualized by anyone with enough time on this earth. The only thing that can prevent them is undeniable proof (clear documentation) of how such ideals fail and lead to your downfall.

 

[Trump's Chosen]

Everyday we lose history. You can't fully understand history without the context and we can never have the full context, meaning we never fully understand history.

But you can't forge a new culture without destruction of older ones. The enlightenment needed to recontextualise the previous age as "the dark ages" though the evidence for that is rather scant. The christians copied the books and ideas they liked from the greeks, but left behind any of their religious ideas.

It's kind of like trying to define your brand or character. The quickest way to do it, is by defining something you're not, or something you're against. Otherwise you end up with something that is everything or for everyone which means it's for no one. Every culture decides who gets preferred treatment and who gets marginalized. Even those who's goal is egalitarian end up doing that too.

Though the question whether it's justified is a rather small-minded one. Of course it will be justified. In the sense that they'll have a good explanation of why they're doing it. The way we're seeing censorship mostly being done in the name of "a fight against misinformation". It's very well justified. That doesn't mean it's right, or healthy, or good for people as a whole. But of course it will be justified.

 

[Thiletonomics]

Preserve everything, let their failures and shortcomings hold as a monument to their sins.

If you destroy/erase something it will inevitably return as these idea's are not unique and can be conceptualized by anyone with enough time on this earth. The only thing that can prevent them is undeniable proof (clear documentation) of how such ideals fail and lead to your downfall.

How many times would Communism need to fail though, before people finally realize the failures of it and stop doing it? Even today, with all of the documentation of its past failures, Governments are still trying to implement it.

Some people have also said that they wish to complete erase anime/manga out of existence, in order to get rid of Lolicons and Shotacons. But if that were to actually happen, wouldn't those pedos turn to Western Animation, or even God forbid the real thing, to get their kiddie fixes then?

 

[Éamonn Ceannt]

Yes, when it’s something I don’t like.

No but in all seriousness it is sometimes needed. People are too stupid for their own good.

 

[Tar&FeatherFurrys]

How many times would Communism need to fail though, before people finally realize the failures of it and stop doing it? Even today, with all of the documentation of its past failures, Governments are still trying to implement it.

Some people have also said that they wish to complete erase anime/manga out of existence, in order to get rid of Lolicons and Shotacons. But if that were to actually happen, wouldn't those pedos turn to Western Animation, or even God forbid the real thing, to get their kiddie fixes then?

First off, the governments that do, lack open and free to use historic libraries for the public to educate themselves (THAT ISN'T CENSORED AND LIMITED). It's literally what you're asking for, but the opposite end. They erase history, like how you want, but do so to support the regime. They're curating history to better suit their needs. And if the country is already gripped by a tyrannical regime utilizing such ideologies to keep the workers in line, it doesn't matter how many people you "wake up" because if the amount isn't enough for a full scale revolution all it surmounts to a displeased and upset faction in your nation that understands the tyranny they live under but have little to no ability to remove and/or replace it.

Second off, what the fuck does preserving history have to do with pedophiles? Are you trying to make some terrible argument in the lines of "If destroying history bad, we should let loli and shotacon spread because like that's history" or are you fucking retarded?

Please, elaborate how preserving history is in the same boat as preserving drawn CSAM material? Because news flash, it's not.

 

[Thiletonomics]

Second off, what the fuck does preserving history have to do with pedophiles? Are you trying to make some terrible argument in the lines of "If destroying history bad, we should let loli and shotacon spread because like that's history" or are you fucking retarded?

It's the argument that ALL anime/manga needs to be erased because Lolicon and Shotacon exists, or some other reason that does not involve CSAM material, even if a said anime/manga material has nothing to do with it, i.e. a series that has almost all or mostly adult characters, with little to no suggestive material. And that the erasure is done to not specifically target the CSAM material, but because of other things such as "combating disinformation", "saving democracy", or because it would be one of the Four Olds that the CCP targetted during the Cultural Revolution.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

And while on the other hand, there's many attempts to keep media/ideas/culture in general preserved for historical purposes, is there any form of such that would be better off for the World, if it were to be erased and no one ever has a memory of it ever existing?

I think cleansing history is s useful tool. You'll often see criticism of Christians because of something bad people who identified as Christians did in the past. I also think we'd be better off erasing the fact Whites had any hand in slavery or genocide because it's used to bolster Antiwhiteism.

This Islam thing has been getting real old for the last couple thousand years.

Just erase all the other religions too, except Christianity and Judaism.

Some people have also said that they wish to complete erase anime/manga out of existence, in order to get rid of Lolicons and Shotacons. But if that were to actually happen, wouldn't those pedos turn to Western Animation, or even God forbid the real thing, to get their kiddie fixes then?

Nobody wants to jack it to western animation. Cartoon coomers would nearly go extinct without anime, which makes it almost sound like a good idea. And I doubt the only thing holding back kiddy rapists is cartoons, they're probably either already doing that and jacking to toons, or just aren't gonna do it at all.

 

[Thiletonomics]

Nobody wants to jack it to western animation. Cartoon coomers would nearly go extinct without anime, which makes it almost sound like a good idea. And I doubt the only thing holding back kiddy rapists is cartoons, they're probably either already doing that and jacking to toons, or just aren't gonna do it at all.

Cuties was a literal example of the real-life version, which has thankfully been removed from Netflix after its distribution deal expired. And Western Animation has also had its fair share of blatant "creator's fetish on display", i.e. the twerking episode in the Powerpuff Girls reboot and the infamous Total DramaRama fart fairy episode. I don't think anyone would object to those media being erased.

Another thing that came to mind about cultural erasure, is the Hawaiian Kingdom and it being conquered by the US. Some people (although it's probably more non-Hawaiians that cry about this than actual ones, just to virtue signal) are still crying about the "US overthrowing a sovereign nation", and "Hawaiian culture" being erased, and the loud minority of them use arguments similar to NIMBY to kill off certain projects, i.e. the Hawaii Superferry, and TMT. Today, the remaining Hawaiians that still live in Hawaii are so apathetic to the point that the argument about their culture being cancelled doesn't have its fair weight to it, and the brutality of Hawaii's past (i.e. infanticide) would probably make it little to no loss if it does disappear. They don't even have the energy to chimpout like Blacks do to "try to make a difference".

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

Some people have also said that they wish to complete erase anime/manga out of existence, in order to get rid of Lolicons and Shotacons. But if that were to actually happen, wouldn't those pedos turn to Western Animation, or even God forbid the real thing, to get their kiddie fixes then?

That's why you sinply kill all pedos, and it also isn't as if looking at pornography of something decreases your arousal to it, lolicons/shotacons watch simulated child pornography because they already want to diddle kids but are (in many cases) unable to, in the case that they find an opportunity to do so, they will offend. Like that one canadian guy who made a whole "essay" defending lolicon and was then discovered to have raped pubescent girls in Thailand

 

[Shig O'nella]

Hey, OP, Got a question for you. You wanna purge Marx? Say good bye to everything associated with it, from mass genocides down to fucking velcro.

Would it be OK and justifiable to erase a chain of your memories? Not just a single memory of the time you pissed yourself in front of the entire class, but everything associated with that memory. You don't need to remember anything at all about 7th and 8th grade, do you.

Of course that's not OK, lose a big enough chunk of your memories and ... you ain't you any more.
Cultures and ideologies are the same. You can't just lop out a piece and expect it to work any more. Chinks found that out the hard way, and they failed at the attempt to year zero their shit.

 

[Tar&FeatherFurrys]

It's the argument that ALL anime/manga needs to be erased because Lolicon and Shotacon exists, or some other reason that does not involve CSAM material, even if a said anime/manga material has nothing to do with it, i.e. a series that has almost all or mostly adult characters, with little to no suggestive material. And that the erasure is done to not specifically target the CSAM material, but because of other things such as "combating disinformation", "saving democracy", or because it would be one of the Four Olds that the CCP targetted during the Cultural Revolution.

No, as SSJ said pedophiles will diddle regardless, for a multitude of reasons I don't support censorship because it always comes back to bite you in the ass down the line.

If people want to grow up and waste their existence watching cartoons idgaf, if you want to limit my ability to ingest media or literature based on your belief that it's a gateway to some destructive behavior then I do give a fuck because in my lifetime I've learned that the government is a mix of incompetent and/or malicious and I don't wish for them to harbor tools that shape my perception of reality.

Obviously CSAM and content that borders this is a different discussion but things that pertain to history or ideological ideal's both need to be consumable because that's how you iron out issues in society. Do you really think Karl Marx was the first to come to the idea of "Marxism" Who's to say he's not the 4th, 5th, or even 100th in pre-written history? If it's destructive enough to collapse a nation it's quite possible these ways of living have existed long ago and failed, resulting in the practicing tribe/nation to collapse. Like said, if there's no recorded history freely available you don't know why X nation failed and vanished.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Cuties was a literal example of the real-life version, which has thankfully been removed from Netflix after its distribution deal expired. And Western Animation has also had its fair share of blatant "creator's fetish on display", i.e. the twerking episode in the Powerpuff Girls reboot and the infamous Total DramaRama fart fairy episode. I don't think anyone would object to those media being erased.

As bad as twerking Powerpuff Girls sounds, Cuties should've been a much bigger scandal than it ended up being, I hope the girls sue Netflix out of existence on their 18th birthday.

 

[raspberry mocha]

Maybe I'm reading OP wrong but stopping savages from acting savage is pretty based, but it's less a purge of an idea and more of a flex on the part of the power that's able to stop widow burnings, beheadings, or child brides.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

As bad as twerking Powerpuff Girls sounds, Cuties should've been a much bigger scandal than it ended up being, I hope the girls sue Netflix out of existence on their 18th birthday.

The girl who starred as the protagonist is already 18, the movie came out almost 5 years ago and started production in 2017