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[Sinner's Sandwich]

I remember Madame Medusa and her crocodiles or whatever

The movie and the animations are still amazing.

 

[Kier Starmer]

Milt Kahl was truly one of the greats, the animation is just sublime.

Does it feel to anyone else that audiences due to financial and/or time constraints are just being more selective over their theatre trips? I went to see Wicked and that film is fantastic when you go into the set work done as were Barbie and Oppenheimer.

 

[Doom House V]

Remember Pogos Disney remixes? They are way nostalgic for me.

 

[X-avier cuck]

Milt Kahl was truly one of the greats, the animation is just sublime.

Does it feel to anyone else that audiences due to financial and/or time constraints are just being more selective over their theatre trips? I went to see Wicked and that film is fantastic when you go into the set work done as were Barbie and Oppenheimer.

The true beauty of the nine old men is that they were all so different from each other animation wise, politically, and from a personality perspective yet they still vouch for each other as artists.

You would legitimately not get that today within the industry.
Ward Kimball not only a hardcore leftist but he was the one that really liked incredibly cartoony animation, Milt was kind of an edgy guy who thought incredibly highly of himself but he specialized in realism, Eric Larson it was pretty conservative and had a thing for animating expressions and animal anatomy.

 

[Mike Matei's Penis]

Remember Pogos Disney remixes? They are way nostalgic for me.

They are great. Pogo is also very based

 

[Trilby]

The true beauty of the nine old men is that they were all so different from each other animation wise, politically, and from a personality perspective yet they still vouch for each other as artists.

You would legitimately not get that today within the industry.
Ward Kimball not only a hardcore leftist but he was the one that really liked incredibly cartoony animation, Milt was kind of an edgy guy who thought incredibly highly of himself but he specialized in realism, Eric Larson it was pretty conservative and had a thing for animating expressions and animal anatomy.

I'm glad when these are pointed out.

 

[starborn427614]

The movie and the animations are still amazing.

It's worth watching just for the animation. The sequel is a better movie, but it doesn't really hit as hard if you haven't seen the original.

 

[X-avier cuck]

I'm glad when these are pointed out.

Yup!
I think Walt doesn't get enough credit for just how socially diverse his company was because everybody had different politics but together their strings balanced each other out.

You just don't get that now because a person is more likely to be hired for thinking or looking a certain way as opposed to being genuinely talented.

That lack of diversity also goes to the animation because it's so homogenized now.

Frank Thomas and Ollie Johnson became best friends and they literally did scenes with each other because of how well they complimented each other's animation.

 

[Lone MacReady II]

They have called ORCS black-coded. Never say never.

I actually got my democrat dad to finally understand why Amazog's Rangs of Black Power isn't LOTR over Thanksgiving.

He couldn't understand why Amazog would try to bring retarded "orc families" into existence, and also make them pale-skinned for some reason. This not even mentioning the nigger elves and dwarves from season 1 which destroy any and all chance for RoP to be canon... It took a while, but I explained that (apart from the usual suspects doing things for a Dieversity Agenda) leftist producers/writers literally see orcs as sub-saharan niggers. You'd think that, given who these people claim to be, that they'd consider thinking orcs to be niggers is just a different form of nebulous "racisssssm"... but no.

And since they interpret orcs as John Tolkien being a big meanie-face to niggers, they have gone out of their way (ever since the Hobbit days) to depict ALL orcs as lighter-skinned creatures (which now have ""families"") to make the not-niggers seem less ontologically evil... because they're actually blacks, not orcs.

"The Semitic Shadow cannot Create, it can only Corrupt and Destroy that which was made Good." - J.R.R.T. probably.

 

[Incecticyder]

I actually got my democrat dad to finally understand why Amazog's Rangs of Black Power isn't LOTR over Thanksgiving.

He couldn't understand why Amazog would try to bring retarded "orc families" into existence, and also make them pale-skinned for some reason. This not even mentioning the nigger elves and dwarves from season 1 which destroy any and all chance for RoP to be canon... It took a while, but I explained that (apart from the usual suspects doing things for a Dieversity Agenda) leftist producers/writers literally see orcs as sub-saharan niggers. You'd think that, given who these people claim to be, that they'd consider thinking orcs to be niggers is just a different form of nebulous "racisssssm"... but no.

And since they interpret orcs as John Tolkien being a big meanie-face to niggers, they have gone out of their way (ever since the Hobbit days) to depict ALL orcs as lighter-skinned creatures (which now have ""families"") to make the not-niggers seem less ontologically evil... because they're actually blacks, not orcs.

"The Semitic Shadow cannot Create, it can only Corrupt and Destroy that which was made Good." - J.R.R.T. probably.

In my opinion, Elves, Orcs and Dwarves should not have clear, cultural counterparts nor human skin colors.

 

[Trilby]

Yup!
I think Walt doesn't get enough credit for just how socially diverse his company was because everybody had different politics but together their strings balanced each other out.

You just don't get that now because a person is more likely to be hired for thinking or looking a certain way as opposed to being genuinely talented.

And that's my issue, Nobody wants me for my talent.

 

[Betonhaus]

In my opinion, Elves, Orcs and Dwarves should not have clear, cultural counterparts nor human skin colors.

Historically they do (people with Dwarfism are named after the mythological Dwarves who originated from ancient ancient humans trying to understand the people they met who had Dwarfism), but they aren't really relevant these days. Orcs are usually based off of the Vikings so those are completely wrong.

 

[Incecticyder]

Historically they do (people with Dwarfism are named after the mythological Dwarves who originated from ancient ancient humans trying to understand the people they met who had Dwarfism), but they aren't really relevant these days. Orcs are usually based off of the Vikings so those are completely wrong.

Not what I meant. I mean that all three are usually portrayed as a type of fay. Magical creatures. Look at the Elves: Pathfinder and Discworld outright make them out to be like the Grey aliens. The Norse depict them as physical spirits and/or minor Gods. In Harry Potter (and arguably Christmas), they are slaves. In most works, Orcs are meant to be based on whatever comes to mind when you hear the word "barbarian" be it Mongols, Slavs, the more aggressive Native American tribes and, of course, the Normans but they do not have a definitive counterpart. As for the Dwarves, their original Norse depiction was that of magically transformed worms/termites and each culture has their own depiction of them. Pygmies is another word used to describe them. Anansi hit one to see if it would kick off a literal storm.

See what I mean? You cannot shove them in one definitive culture or race and say with certainty that every depiction of such can only be one thing or reference a specific real world counterpart. They should not look like us beyond general shape.

 

[Lone MacReady II]

Not what I meant. I mean that all three are usually portrayed as a type of fay. Magical creatures. Look at the Elves: Pathfinder and Discworld outright make them out to be like the Grey aliens. The Norse depict them as physical spirits and/or minor Gods. In Harry Potter (and arguably Christmas), they are slaves. In most works, Orcs are meant to be based on whatever comes to mind when you hear the word "barbarian" be it Mongols, Slavs, the more aggressive Native American tribes and, of course, the Normans but they do not have a definitive counterpart. As for the Dwarves, their original Norse depiction was that of magically transformed worms/termites and each culture has their own depiction of them. Pygmies is another word used to describe them. Anansi hit one to see if it would kick off a literal storm.

See what I mean? You cannot shove them in one definitive culture or race and say with certainty that every depiction of such can only be one thing or reference a specific real world counterpart. They should not look like us beyond general shape.

Other properties can do that, but Tolkien very specifically modeled his work after the world and as tribute to the lost pagan faiths of northern Europe and Christianity. That's why sand niggers actually have dark skin, and the underground dwarves aren't shitskins, because they Obviously aren't getting sun-charred all day. Tolkien actually thought about how a people's environment might effect them, making languages and topographic maps and migration routes of various races over the years.

Amazog meanwhile puts a sub-saharan negress in an underground dwarf city, because Clown Shoes Jewry.

 

[Incecticyder]

Other properties can do that, but Tolkien very specifically modeled his work after the world and as tribute to the lost pagan faiths of northern Europe and Christianity. That's why sand niggers actually have dark skin, and the underground dwarves aren't shitskins, because they Obviously aren't getting sun-charred all day. Tolkien actually thought about how a people's environment might effect them, making languages and topographic maps and migration routes of various races over the years.

Amazog meanwhile puts a sub-saharan negress in an underground dwarf city, because Clown Shoes Jewry.

I, for one, am perfectly fine with Dwarves, Elves and Orcs of different ethnicities as long as they are not meant to clearly parallel human ones. If you are going by the multiculturalism angle then explain it somewhat "my wife is from the Southern Longrass Mountain Clan and they have darker skin due to the climate there and we met on business travel for rare ores" or "his family fled from the southern forests due to droughts and disease" and make it part of the lore. Do not just drop it like it is a No. 2 on laxatives.

Hell, why make them have human skin tones? "The dark green forest elves and the grayish mountain elves have a longstanding rivalry." These people lack imagination. Our ancestors could imagine universes of complex cosmology and these guys cannot imagine a thing unless it is far-left propaganda.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

Tarzan - Honestly I'm surprised they haven't gone after this one.

there was a tarzan live action movie from another studio and it bombed hard, its a public domain ip so no reason to use it. the problem is its sort of a shitty movie, the talking animals are well loved but outside of that its pretty shit.

, and I liked the 2012 film in spite of its flaws.

take a shot every time John gets knocked out. its the only way to experience the movie i heard.

Does it feel to anyone else that audiences due to financial and/or time constraints are just being more selective over their theatre trips?

the money also is because of its opportunity cost, even 5 years ago if you didn't catch a film in theaters, you were fucked for about half a year and would pay more for it on demand. Now it ends up on your streaming site within the month, and the cost for HBO Max without commercials is less than the cost to see the films themselves, and once you add in snacks and drinks you're fucked. Plus everyone has some flavor of streaming site so there's no way not to be able to get this shit for free even if you aren't a pirate.

Thats also why its these "event" films people have been flocking to in the last 5 years, or indie films that probably won't be on streaming sites soon that are overrepresented in the box office. like Auora or I Saw the TV Glow or Terrifer 3.

Like there's no way in hell Barbie or Oppenheimer would have made remotely as much money if it weren't for the memes. kids films are also huge because of the obvious, but you're mostly right, no normie is going to watch films anymore so thats why you have to really get the fans out, like with godzilla, that movie made more fucking money than any of the other movies in the franchise because of how much it pandereed to its fans. same reason the beetlejuice sequel was finally greenlit. and like Twisters was garbage, pure goyslop, but them deciding to meme the 4dx version meant they made a lot just from people wanting to pay double the price to experience that stuff.

In a way we're basically in a modern "New Hollywood" era, where way more niche films are getting seen by a lot more eyes than they would have in the 2010s, or even greenlit. People forget that there were still blockbusters and family films in the early 70s that dominated the charts. but overall it was like this. massive crowd pleasers, mainly musicals and then niche films that end up "cult classics" for every "Taxi driver" you also have an "earthquake" or "towering inferno"

Pogos Disney remixes

what happened to him? i hope he's doing well

Walt doesn't get enough credit for just how socially diverse his company was because everybody had different politics but together their strings balanced each other out.

thats because the jews won't ever forgive him for some random slight.

 

[X-avier cuck]

I think it's more so because for some reason Disney has become what terminally online people consider to be the worst aspects about the US.

Despite this though, they constantly engage with his company's movies and desperately want them to adhere to their own socio-political opinions so they can feel validated.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Moana stands out to me, personally, as a spiritual journey that the lead herself takes to come to terms with her identity as a daughter of a chief and a descendant of voyagers. She wanted to go out exploring because it's in her blood on top of the ocean literally calling her to a task only she could do—although there would've been no shame in returning home at her lowest. Her strongest virtue was being brave enough to explore past the reef that bordered the island, and she was guided to an actual guide who in turn needed to be humbled.

'Course I am biased since I think Polynesian culture is rather fascinating, and my grandmother and I were on the same page about our takeaways, but I can understand why it didn't speak to others the same way if at all.

They could have done a modern day version of the Pocahontas-John Smith / John Rolfe love triangle had they had Moana meet some Spanish or Portuguese Sailor / Conquistador.

 

[starborn427614]

They could have done a modern day version of the Pocahontas-John Smith / John Rolfe love triangle had they had Moana meet some Spanish or Portuguese Sailor / Conquistador.

Isn't that just a gender-swapped version of The Road to El Dorado?

 

[X-avier cuck]

Speaking of Moana, Disney has been rewarded for mediocrity because the film has made like three times as budget netting like $341 million which is more than wish and strange World got as a whole over time.

The kicker here is that most of the reviews range from being mixed to flat out negative and the soundtrack is poor but they have enough to make that sequel they tease at the end of this film.

We better say a prayer for animation studios because I think this is going to become the norm for them