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Men are more dependent on committed relationships than women, new study shows
by Jessie Tu | 14 hours ago
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Men place more importance on finding a long-term partner and rely more heavily on romantic relationships than women, a new study from Amsterdam has found.

According to the forthcoming study published in the journal Behavioral and Brain Sciences, researchers found that men are more dependent on being in stable, committed relationships than women.

One reason posited by one of the study’s authors, Paul van Lange, is that many men rely on their female partners to manage practical household responsibilities. Men also tend to have higher sexual needs, according to van Lange, which are more likely to be fulfilled within a committed relationship.

Another reason why relationships hold greater significance for men than women could be that men find it easier to exhibit emotional vulnerability only within the context of a romantic partnership, whereas women can often easily express emotional vulnerability more broadly, and across multiple contexts, such as with friends, family, colleagues, and thereby minimising their reliance on a single partner.

“Our society emphasises that boys should be less emotionally expressive,” Van Lange said. This social conditioning means that men tend to rely more heavily on just one intimate partner for their emotional connection.

Along with his colleagues Iris Wahring and Jeffry Simpson, van Lange, a psychology professor at Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam, reviewed a range of scientific literature on gender differences in heterosexual relationships to find also that women initiate separations more often than men. In fact, the research found that 70 per cent of divorces are instigated by women.

“Men often feel lonelier after a breakup, while women more frequently report a sense of relief,” Van Lange said, adding that the disparity of needs also extends to health outcomes.

“Men’s life expectancy is more closely linked to having a committed relationship than women’s,” Van Lange said. “We’re seeing a shift toward smaller differences between men and women.”

Another recent study from the US found that a correlation between a man’s intelligence level and his degree of relationship investment within a romantic relationship.
 
I think part of it is that people don't ask (or care about) how men are doing in general.

So your average guy with less of a filter may trauma dump on an unsolicited, unprepared person in their lives. But the more stoic types will never really get the chance.

I had a male acquaintance hint several times this weekend in our brief interactions that he was suffering from prolonged depression when I was inquiring about something as banal as what vidya he was currently enjoying.

And even myself who is better equipped than most to handle such heavy dialogue mostly tiptoed around it.
 
When men are "emotionally vulnerable " it gets used as a weapon against them by the same people telling them they should be emotionally vulnerable.
It's a shit test.

There are moments when and I hate to use the word " allowed" to be emotionally vulnerable but its few and far between. Usually reserved for the death of a loved one.

People who break out into hysterics because someone in passing called them a fag are not attractive to either gender barring some weird deviancy.
 
I had a male acquaintance hint several times this weekend in our brief interactions that he was suffering from prolonged depression when I was inquiring about something as banal as what vidya he was currently enjoying.

And even myself who is better equipped than most to handle such heavy dialogue mostly tiptoed around it.
Interesting. I think, if he’s ready to hint at it, he’s probably seeking a solution.

I don’t blame you for your reaction, it can be uncomfortable. If it were me, however… I’d ask what he envisions his life would be like if he wasn’t suffering. Getting depressed people to think about their future draws them out of their low state a bit. If he’s knows what his idea of a better future for himself looks like, he’s ready to make a plan to achieve it. Women usually seek to just yap, but men seek solutions. I know what depression feels like, and i know how i pulled myself out of it with a well defined action plan, with steps to take if i have another depressive episode.

A lot of staying out of depression is living a healthy lifestyle. Exercise, eating healthy, all that goes a lot further as a solution than just talking about issues just to process them.
 
Thing is, men can have committed relationships with themselves.
Men kind of have to do that in order to succeed.
If you're not at peace and in touch with yourself, you will fail in life, end up with a dead end job and you won't get women either.
I honestly don't think women can do that, not as well definitely.

Also, like others have said already, men talk about their feelings with other men.
They just don't go on social media to rant about it or to a therapist who is probably a feminist woman anyway.
Another recent study from the US found that a correlation between a man’s intelligence level and his degree of relationship investment within a romantic relationship.
You're stupid if you get off the plantation, nigga.
And how the fuck can you form a truly intimate relationship with women when they're so combative these days?
They tell you one moment that they want you to express yourself and when you do, they freak out because these are not the emotions they were looking for.
The only girls who actually listened and didn't fight me were the ones that wanted to fuck me but I friendzoned them.
Maybe that's the secret.
 
many men rely on their female partners to manage practical household responsibilities.
This is sadly still true. Parents, teach your son the basics of running his own life so he at least doesn't have to depend on a woman for feeding himself, clean clothes, and turning the bed.

I honestly don't think women can do that, not as well definitely.
Women can do it a lot better than men, one of the reasons spinsters generally do better than single older men.
 
Women can do it a lot better than men, one of the reasons spinsters generally do better than single older men.
That maybe was true for the men who worked hard all their lives and neglected other aspects.
Today, work is a distant thing in most people's lives really.
They go there and make the money but that's it.
Once you're retired, there are also 10000 ways to distract yourself these days.
Men don't rely on attention much, they can have fun on their own.

Maybe women truly have changed but I think they will still want that attention.
We shall see when millenials get old.
 
That maybe was true for the men who worked hard all their lives and neglected other aspects.
Today, work is a distant thing in most people's lives really.
They go there and make the money but that's it.
Once you're retired, there are also 10000 ways to distract yourself these days.
Men don't rely on attention much, they can have fun on their own.

Maybe women truly have changed but I think they will still want that attention.
We shall see when millenials get old.
It's only a subsection of women who want the attention though, there's always been a lot of women who are quite solitary/too eccentric to find a mate. They have their cats and their garden and their yearly Disney cruise and are content.

I wonder if gaming will have an impact on older male loneliness, though. I can see a future when millennials are old(er), when spergy lonely guys who would have struggled in the past, find connections in an MMO guild after retirement. I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing.
 
I wonder if gaming will have an impact on older male loneliness, though. I can see a future when millennials are old(er), when spergy lonely guys who would have struggled in the past, find connections in an MMO guild after retirement. I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing.
Definitely good.
You can find like minded people online, you're not limited to where you live.
Even here on KF, we have the Kiwi Farms Movie Night which has been going on for many years now.
It's awesome, it's hard to find good movie watching people IRL.
40+ people with a chat and no censorship watching some crappy movie makes it a unique place.
We have people from 4 continents now, I think.
There will be millions of online places like that in the future, I think.
 
That maybe was true for the men who worked hard all their lives and neglected other aspects.
Today, work is a distant thing in most people's lives really.
They go there and make the money but that's it.
Once you're retired, there are also 10000 ways to distract yourself these days.
Men don't rely on attention much, they can have fun on their own.

Maybe women truly have changed but I think they will still want that attention.
We shall see when millenials get old.
The millenials have hit forty. They are already old. They are solidly middle aged.
 
This is going to be good ... mental gymnastics worthy of olympic gold medal are being performed :popcorn:

Any guy that needs someone to talk to, just get a dog, something like a lab. They listen better and care more about you than most people

This shit was said by the boomer because "their bitch wife wasnt worth it " how did that work out for you pals ?
 
Thing is, men can have committed relationships with themselves.
Men kind of have to do that in order to succeed.
Many men that would be considered successful lack introspection.

Also self-awareness and introspection is not remotely comparable to a "committed relationship" which by definition has to be with another person anyway.

If you're not at peace and in touch with yourself, you will fail in life, end up with a dead end job and you won't get women either.
I honestly don't think women can do that, not as well definitely.
Women can do it better than men. There's a reason why single women are happier than single men.

Also, like others have said already, men talk about their feelings with other men.
They just don't go on social media to rant about it or to a therapist who is probably a feminist woman anyway.
Half good advice and half bad. Social media shouldn't be used for venting. But friends (who will likely just give you asspats) are not a stand-in for genuine professional help if that is what you need.

And how the fuck can you form a truly intimate relationship with women when they're so combative these days?
They tell you one moment that they want you to express yourself and when you do, they freak out because these are not the emotions they were looking for.
The only girls who actually listened and didn't fight me were the ones that wanted to fuck me but I friendzoned them.
Maybe that's the secret.
idk man it just sounds like you have shit taste in women and/or are autistic
 
They needed a study for this? lmao. Men are big babies that move from mommy to wife (who takes over all mommy duties) and can't take care of themselves because they are useless and lazy. Everyone already knew this.

That's why men have always had to exert power over women to force women into relationships with them. As soon as women don't have to depend on a man for food/shelter/income women start to realize how little men actually bring to a relationship.

The only way for men to still aquire a woman is if they add to her life in a way that her life is better with him than without him and most pornsick broke losers just can't manage to be a net positive to women. If men don't wake up and improve themselves they are going to be completely left behind. The "male loneliness epidemic" will only get worse. lel
 
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