Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[glass_houses]

OH GOD THEY JUST KEEP COMING. HOW CAN THERE POSSIBLY STILL BE MORE OF THEM? WHEN WILL IT END?

The temptation to self-dox is overpowering. I cannot even believe what I am seeing unfold before my eyes in real life.

These sick fucks truly ruin everything they touch. Worse than bedbugs and smallpox and black mold combined.

Paedophiles and other predators always find each other; they're like a hydra. They look like separate beings, but following each ophidian neck eventually leads you to a single, massive monster that sprouts new heads faster than you can cut them off.

 

[Tetopettenson]

holy shit i wish we could just help people with dysphoria by teaching them that their bodies arent wrong. like you dont look at an anorexic person and help them starve themselves and you dont look at someone who wants to chop their legs off and tell them to do it so why the fuck is gender any different? not liking your body doesnt mean youre in the wrong one jfc. i just miss my friend she was so fucking rational before she started taking t but now she just seems so empty all the time. its almost like she hasnt actually gotten to the root of her problems and is now fucking up her head even more with unneccessary hormones (hormones that are already known to make men moody. hmmmmmm )

Spoiler: more sperging bc im pissed

chop your tits off if itll make you genuinely happy i dont give a fuck. grow your body hair out and cut the hair off of your head whatever. but youre not a fucking man just because you dont like traditionally feminine things. men think being a woman is easy and thats why some of them try it meanwhile women think being a man will save them from the troubles of being a woman. what a fucking joke

 

[Fapcop]

Mental fucking illness.

Imagine having a girlfriend like our good baron but go: “Nah, Imma sit and goon 24-7 and take hormones so I can get a cute ass!”

Wtf man. I can’t even…

 

[MightyMorphin'Willbender]

I know hindsight is 20/20 but currently I am stumped as to why I've occasionally wistfully thought of a former friend, hoping he had fucked off with his girlfriend ages ago so he could be free of our circle of friends' libtarded ways and became a family man or whatever. Very relatable tbh.

Lol nope he just popped back into our lives just to announce he was gonna troon.

>fail male in looks/behaviour/history
> very porn addicted
>alcoholic
>goth girl obsession
He never stood a chance.

The circle of friends in question are not peaked and are already happily "correctly" gendering him. My only hope is that it's been so long everyone is too busy with their lives to let this guy back in.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Within the Administrative State- the "swamp"- in the USA, the First Amendment is dead, buried, and decomposed.

Sure you have 1A rights in other contexts. But in the labyrinthine halls of the agencies, the bureaus, the investigative branches- such rights exist only in abstract theory. They are routinely ignored and attempts to appeal to the courts for recourse are rebuffed with little thought. Might as well live in UK or Canada or the EU or- Allah forbid I say such a slur- Australia.

With 4 years of Trump and 8 years of Vance we might start getting a little bit of those rights back. Maybe. But it is going to be rough.

That's it, that's my update.

 

[UsoppBrain]

I wanted to add on here because I need some advice regarding my friend. She’s in her 20’s now and is also on the autism spectrum. we’ve been close since middle school. As you can probably assume, she now desires to troon out. A few months ago, she texted me saying how she wants to become a boy. She’s been going back and forth and just so confused and it honestly breaks my heart. She also hangs around some other pooners and there’s no doubt in my mind they’ve left an ugly mark on her. I care so much about her but I don’t want to say anything right now as I don’t want us to lose contact. I’m just scared she’ll start making rash decisions and eventually come to regret them. If you guys have any advice then I’d appreciate it, I’m really desperate.

 

[xX_rAcE_wAr_420_Xx]

I wanted to add on here because I need some advice regarding my friend. She’s in her 20’s now and is also on the autism spectrum. we’ve been close since middle school. As you can probably assume, she now desires to troon out. A few months ago, she texted me saying how she wants to become a boy. She’s been going back and forth and just so confused and it honestly breaks my heart. She also hangs around some other pooners and there’s no doubt in my mind they’ve left an ugly mark on her. I care so much about her but I don’t want to say anything right now as I don’t want us to lose contact. I’m just scared she’ll start making rash decisions and eventually come to regret them. If you guys have any advice then I’d appreciate it, I’m really desperate.

You have to be honest with her, truly honest. Tell her you come from a place of concern, that you want to be there for her and, at the same time, you're worried this is a quick fix that doesn't address whatever problems she has going on in life. It's possible to still be friends with her even if she goes down this path, but many people have changed their entire persona in the course of following it. Don't react out of fear, really think it through, and consider if you might regret if you don't speak your mind honestly.

Don't think you can tell her how to live her life, don't try to lecture her, just be as candid as possible about how worried you are that this is a bad idea. Give your reasons, say that you'd love to be wrong about it, but you don't think you are. This isn't about convincing her not to troon out, precisely, but about helping her find the right path to happiness. Emphasize that you don't want this to blow up the friendship, that she's welcome to disagree with you, this isn't some ultimatum but you feeling a duty to speak your mind. The best kinds of friends will give each other the absolute truth; if you want to be kind of a joker about it, point out that that's peak male mentality and if she's truly a man she's understand.

Jokes aside, good luck. I don't want to say anything dramatic like "be willing to lose your friend", but you have to risk it if you want to voice your concerns. If she cuts you off over it, then it was just a matter of time.

 

[UsoppBrain]

Thx for writing. For my sake, I don’t know if I could still be around her. She’s one of the few people I truly value in my life, and to watch her slowly die and have a “man” take her place would be like hell for me. Not tryna turn this into a sob story but I have my own struggles with mental health. I’ve had severe OCD since I was a kid but I’ve gotten better thanks to meds and therapy. I’ve also been in a place where I’ve questioned my gender identity, but then I realized that I could just present however I want and still be male. It blows my mind that Gender Dysphoria is the only mental disorder that is treated by entertaining the delusions of those who suffer from it. I hope that succeeding generations will look back on transitioning and feel the same contempt we do when we recall things like electroshock therapy or thalidomide or something.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

You have to be honest with her, truly honest. Tell her you come from a place of concern, that you want to be there for her and, at the same time, you're worried this is a quick fix that doesn't address whatever problems she has going on in life.

I've definitely done something like this not too long ago, not going into detail out of respect for this person's privacy.

 

[Rap Scallion]

My childhood best friend pooned out in recent years. She has turned into a miserable, narcissistic alcoholic wirh anger issues and I no longer know who this person is anymore.

She was an incredible artist and used to be such a sweet person. Post teetus deletus, we are strangers to each other after I gently informed her of her increasing rude behavior toward me about something completely unrelated to the troon shit. 20+ years friendship ended overnight in a nonconfrontational meltdown. What are these people who can't talk to someone face to face about these things?

It's like she's angry that everyone around her succeeded in life and she's been left behind. And somehow....that is transphobic.

I miss her so much. But she's been such a rude bitch over the years that I have already been grieving something I had a feeling would end someday.

I just hate that others encourage the delusional shit being the source problem when it's clearly more than that.

 

[Zemblan Physics]

feel the same contempt we do when we recall things like electroshock therapy

Not to derail the thread, but ECT is very much still in use, and it’s a very effective tool in the treatment of melancholic depression, manic episodes, catatonia etc.

 

[glass_houses]

Not to derail the thread, but ECT is very much still in use, and it’s a very effective tool in the treatment of melancholic depression, manic episodes, catatonia etc.

ECT today is a lot less brutal than it was when it was first used, however.

 

[Wallace]

It's like she's angry that everyone around her succeeded in life and she's been left behind. And somehow....that is transphobic.

Perhaps trooning out makes her failure not her fault. If she hasn't succeeded, it's the fault of transphobia?

 

[Officer Douche]

Is there really no way to help people trooning out? I have an online friend group I've talked to for over a decade and even had a couple of irl meetups.

There's one guy in it I've always been pretty close with, he basically got groomed by another member of the group that turned into a nonbinary/tranny/subhuman faggot and convinced him to move across multiple fucking states. I believe the troon used suicide to manipulate him into feeling bad for him. I and others tried to convince him it was a bad idea but the only response we got was "I gotta go there to help them". I tried warning him your life's barely together and you wanna help someone else? That was just met with another "I gotta help him dude".

They were together for a couple years but broke up. Over the course of those years my friend became less and less talkative and noticeably was miserable whenever he did respond. Turns out this mutant freak was controlling who he could and couldn't speak to. So he was essentially restricted to tranny discords where everyone's depressed and contribute nothing to society. The freak he lived with also wouldn't work for months at a time putting all the bills on my friend. Additionally my friend is obviously autistic or an aspie of some sort, it's like he's an easy target for being groomed by these kind of "people".

Even though they are broken up and he's moved back to his homestate, he is currently troon-maxxing slowly but surely. His discord name is a girls name now and his bio switched to "she/he/they" but months later it's currently "they/she". Why would someone who's wasted most of their life decide to troon out? This is a grown ass man too not some naive 18 year old.

I'm not even sure what's the best course of action to take. Could be a lost cause but it feels like I lost a friend I've known for 10+ years. How the fuck can he still wanna talk to trannies after that experience and want to even become one? He doesn't wanna talk to anyone in the group anymore, only troon discords.

 

[The Cunting Death]

Lost one of my best high-school buddies to it this last week.

And I wasn't even told by him than he transitioned, only by a mutual friend who saw his socials change to "she-they" and a name change

It really fucking hurt finding out, because he was the only one to get my sense of humor and we'd spend our lunch time quoting Mitchell and Webb shows. I'd honestly rather him be dead than a troon because at least being dead won't ruin my fond times I spent with him.

 

[Officer Douche]

And I wasn't even told by him than he transitioned, only by a mutual friend who saw his socials change to "she-they" and a name change

That's what happened to me too. I saw the name and bio change but he didn't say anything when I referred to him by his actual name.

A "friend" of both ours said "uhm actually they go by [female name] now". While cutting someone off. You could hear a needle drop with how quiet everyone got.

It's like he's secretly ashamed of it. I mean, at this age I would be too, if I never tried to build a career or anything and just trooned out. It's a damn shame I tell ya.

 

[glass_houses]

I'm not even sure what's the best course of action to take. Could be a lost cause but it feels like I lost a friend I've known for 10+ years. How the fuck can he still wanna talk to trannies after that experience and want to even become one? He doesn't wanna talk to anyone in the group anymore, only troon discords.

You know that girl who was sexually assaulted and who ended up so deep in maladaptive sexual habits that she willingly does things every day that make her original sexual assault look like consensual hand holding?

Trauma and PTSD, my dude. Everyone returns to the scene of the crime in order to process it... even when that crime was against them. Your friend is trooning out because he was in a relationship with a cluster B cluster fuck... not despite it. He needs victim of crime psychiatric care.

 

[Officer Douche]

You know that girl who was sexually assaulted and who ended up so deep in maladaptive sexual habits that she willingly does things every day that make her original sexual assault look like consensual hand holding?

Trauma and PTSD, my dude. Everyone returns to the scene of the crime in order to process it... even when that crime was against them. Your friend is trooning out because he was in a relationship with a cluster B cluster fuck... not despite it. He needs victim of crime psychiatric care.

The hard part would be convincing him to seek that. I might just throw it our there and see if he does. That quote "you can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink it" would apply to him.

 

[GluttonousManSlob]

I might just throw it our there and see if he does. That quote "you can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink it" would apply to him.

That quote hits the nail on the head. I know you want to help him, but he has to make the choice himself. It sounds like he's not the confrontational narcissist type of troon yet, so maybe you could gently plant some seeds of doubt (if you're still on speaking terms). Throw a few things out there and see if they stick, but don't try to save him from himself. He's sinking into the abyss and he'll pull you down with him if he can.

 

[Mandy Stroyer]

My little brother has always been my shadow but he left for college and came out as gay a few years ago. I checked his steam and he's been posting a lot of furry shit, playing JRPGs, and is getting a degree in computer science so I fear the slippery slope is inevitable. He's also almost definitely autistic and terminally online so I'm sure some faggy discord got a hold of him. I tried to be a good sister, I was very much a tomboy so I'd goad him into playing sports or skateboarding with me but he was never interested. He'd laugh at my edgelord holobunga and columbine jokes but I get no response now. Kiwi frens, I think it's so over