I find it interesting how they will openly admit that the textbook symptoms of autogynephlia are incredibly common but the moment you call it autogynephilia they start saying that this is unscientific and not a real thing.
Has anyone, EVER, been told there that “yeah sounds like just a fetish. And it’s totally fine! Just enjoy cross dressing without worrying about transitioning?”
I get the existence of autogynophilia is a Troon third rail because it would send the whole house of cards down (even though they happily admit to having it in their private Troon spaces) but I suppose they think it’s a collective pr duty to pretend for outsiders.
I do wonder about the motivation of the ppl who ask this who must know they’re going to be told “it’s not a fetish you’re a real girl.” I guess just more fodder for the fetish as they’re sinking deeper into it?
I encourage everyone to read the “agp as addiction” essay, most cutting insight into troon behavior/psychology there is.
Has anyone, EVER, been told there that “yeah sounds like just a fetish. And it’s totally fine! Just enjoy cross dressing without worrying about transitioning?”
I get the existence of autogynophilia is a Troon third rail because it would send the whole house of cards down (even though they happily admit to having it in their private Troon spaces) but I suppose they think it’s a collective pr duty to pretend for outsiders.
I do wonder about the motivation of the ppl who ask this who must know they’re going to be told “it’s not a fetish you’re a real girl.” I guess just more fodder for the fetish as they’re sinking deeper into it?
I encourage everyone to read the “agp as addiction” essay, most cutting insight into troon behavior/psychology there is.
Accepting that cross dressing is a fetish undercuts the ability of said fetishists to invade opposite sex spaces, which ruins their ability to partake in the fetish.
It's true for both auto andro and gynophiles. Chicks invade fag spaces. Dudes invade the lady's room. Barely putting effort into fooling the usual residents is just part of the fun.
I do wonder about the motivation of the ppl who ask this who must know they’re going to be told “it’s not a fetish you’re a real girl.” I guess just more fodder for the fetish as they’re sinking deeper into it?
They know deep down that it's a fetish but they want to try to lie to themselves about it. Plus most of them have a force-fem fetish anywhere where they want somebody to make them troon out (probably because they're lazy fucks whose aspiration in life is somebody else making them do everything).
They know deep down that it's a fetish but they want to try to lie to themselves about it. Plus most of them have a force-fem fetish anywhere where they want somebody to make them troon out (probably because they're lazy fucks whose aspiration in life is somebody else making them do everything).
"I wanna be a woman", 8 years later, "I wanna be considered more than a woman while I rape women to remind them that I'm a man who can abuse them at will, but they also need to bend the knee to call their rapist a woman"
"I wanna be a woman", 8 years later, "I wanna be considered more than a woman while I rape women to remind them that I'm a man who can abuse them at will, but they also need to bend the knee to call their rapist a woman"
People were making memes about the people like that 8 years ago... Nothing has changed, it's just now institutional powers that contain those people now.
Nightmare!
They say that being feminine / masculine does not make you a boy or a girl... and then post about how they played with dollies in kindergarten and that proves their identity.
They do this shell game a lot. “We never said that playing with dolls makes a boy a girl!” And then they follow it up with “I knew I was a girl because my mom’s lipstick and bathrobe made me feel euphoric”. They rely on this notion that “gender identity” is subjective and determined by the person. So no, a boy playing with dolls isn’t transformed into a girl because he doesn’t see it that way. The tranny looking for excuses to confirm his womanhood? He does cling to these examples and considers them proof. In other words, the same action is simultaneously irrelevant to one’s gender and relevant (but only if you want it to be). If you think, “wow, this sounds like narcissism, solipsism, or untreated autism”, congratulations, you’re too smart to have a “gender identity”.
I know that accusations of hypocrisy don’t mean much, but they really are hypocrites. If a “cis” (that is, normal) person uses the correct pronouns for a tranny’s sex, that is, in the tranny mind, an act of violence - to quote a Francis Aaron song. At the same time, if a normal person offends a tranny, the tranny will intentionally use the wrong pronoun. I have had this happen multiple times and seen it happen to both men and women who refuse to play pretend. Here’s an example from a lovely young man on Xitter:
TERFs aren’t women @Saeko_Cut on Xitter said:
New therapist: Nice to meet you, [DEADNAME] Me: Could you please address me as Saeko. Therapist: … You want me to call you Psycho? Me: No, Sah-Eh-Koh Therapist: As a professional I don't think I can ethically do that, [DEADNAME]
Posted on 8:57 A.M., Oct 8, 2024 to 39.5M views, 1,794 reposts, 3,895 quotes, and 80.3K likes [as of this post]. Archive here.
This young man’s screen-name is “TERFs aren’t women”. Does he actually believe this? Of course not. It’s an absurdity. You can argue that TERFs are evil bigoted hags, or whatever, but to say they aren’t women is idiotic. The best tranny-logic I can muster is that he’s saying TERFs are closeted transmen. The previous link is vague and ambiguous, but this li’l’ pooner says it explicitly:
Anonymous Ex-Mormon FTM on our-queer-experience @ Tumblr said:
[The] thing I need a lot of trans people to understand is [that] a good chunk of these [TERFs] are likely trans. I know no one wants to hear that, but no one else talks about this and I need it to be heard.
The amount of [TERFs] I have blocked on this website is staggering, and even more so is the number of blogs that say "dysphoric female" "diagnosed with gender dysphoria | radfem" "detransition female" in their headers… I do think the majority of [TERFs] are cis women, but a LOT more than you think would come out as trans if they weren't caught in that doom spiral of radical feminism. So if you actually want there to be less [TERFs] (I am shocked and appalled at the number of [TERFs] my age and younger) maybe start there.
Changes are my own for clarity’s sake, because these bitches can’t spell. Archived here, reposted on curiobjd on Tumblr. I couldn’t find a date, but I did find a reblog from our-queer-experience by user “imnotadegenerateipromise”, so that’s funny.
That definitely conforms to the subject of this thread - the tendency to project one’s sexual insanity onto others. Coping, and / or sneeding, to employ common parlance.
All of these outbursts are clear narcissistic reversals. You know, D.A.R.V.O.? It’s not that he’s an imposter to womanhood, it’s that TERFs are the imposters. It’s not that he’s a lunatic in denial about who he is, it’s that TERFs are just unenlightened trannies, in a place mentally where he was ages ago. Uh huh. Totally, bro. It’s not that detransitioned women and radical feminists have some insight into the zippertit mind, it’s that the pooners have insight into their minds.
It’s accurate because they’re Mormons and therefore blonde with a big family. You just know she has a sister who is amused by her, to put it politely.
Returning to Mr. Psycho Saeko: You just know his therapist was a woman because it’s such a female-dominated field. This guy manages to get one of the twelve therapists who have not been institutionally captured by the gender cult, and he’s a tranny who immediately gives her Norman Bates vibes. What are the chances he’s a spoiled rich boy and he only pulled a decent therapist because mommy-and-daddy paid for it? Who wants to bet that he discharged her after this? Or got referred out? That the reason he copes by saying “TERFs aren’t women” is because almost all women are TERFs?
Let’s go all the way back to the first paragraph, where I called trannies hypocrites. They will reflexively and intentionally misgender people because they, the tranny, were correctly sexed. They say that misgendering is violence, but often employ that tactic to insult their enemies. It doesn’t work, because yelling stuff that is obviously not true is dumb, but my point is to demonstrate how they will employ tactics they themselves call violent. I say “call” violent and not “consider” violent because I think we all know that they’re histrionic liars. Nevertheless, some old lady using her eyes and calling them a man is akin to a personal attack, and so they act in kind. Really sane behaviour.
Finally, returning to the subject of the thread, here’s some more trannies projecting their dysfunction onto others. Remember, misery loves company, and autistics have a hard time understanding that other people don’t think like them (see Murphy et al. 2020, archived below). They assume you (or some unlucky kid on Reddit or Discord) are a pervert because that’s what they are.
The first example is a story I (unfortunately) cannot source. I saw a particularly horrid tranny hold up a sign that said “you can delete our rights but you can’t delete us from your search history”. When you realize that the only people who want to fuck trannies are other trannies, you’ll appreciate that this sign was an accusation of egghood against a legislator. Why? Because they were trying to stop trannies and tranny-adjacent doctors from abusing kids. They know being a tranny or wanting to fuck a tranny is gross, and that’s why they use those things as accusations and insults.
Here’s another example:
ConfusedRoomate129 on r/MTF said:
I think my transphobic roommate is a closeted trans woman, and I don’t know how to react.
So me and my roommate are both 19, we aren’t really close but we get along sometimes[. H]owever there’s one big problem, he despises trans people. He thinks trans people[,] mostly trans women[,] are mentally ill crossdressing males and it sometimes makes me uncomfortable whenever I hear his remarks and blatant transphobia. He’s also has a Twitter account that I know about since he’s told me about his socials like Twitter, Snapchat, and Instagram, and he retweets a lot of transphobic posts on a daily basis. He’s also a conservative that comes from a conservative family so he doesn’t know about me being a bisexual cis man, outside of that I don’t know much about him either.
One day I was going out to meet some family to discuss about holidays and I told him I was gonna be gone for a while, when I came back I saw him all dressed up in women’s clothing. He was wearing leggings, a choker, a long straight curly brunette wig, lipstick, makeup, and a short sleeve dress with the trans flag pin on his dress. What really shocked me was how well executed it was and how he was able to pass so well….. we both looked at each other uncomfortably and he ran to his room and locked the door. I tried to knock on his door but he wouldn’t answer so I left. One thing that shocks me about this is how blatant he was with his transphobia yet I catch him dressed up as a girl.
I feel like confronting and having a discussion with him about this, but [I don’t know,] I think ‘’he’’ is trans because ‘’he’’ was wearing the trans flag pin on the dress. If ‘’he’’ was trans I would support ‘’him’’ if he wasn’t such a huge TERF. I feel like moving out, what exactly should I do here guys? I’m not trans myself but I felt like asking this question here.
Emphasis is my own. Small changes made for clarity’s sake. Posted two years ago and tagged as “discussion”. Currently has 1.6k upvotes and 251 comments as of the time of this post. Archive here.
Yeah, “confused” is one way to describe this dude. Now, I personally doubt his story, and think it’s more likely that a tranny wrote this about his bisexual roommate. The detailed description of the outfit and the comment on how well “the roommate” “passed” (despite wearing an obvious fucking wig) makes me think that. It’s too close to pornography, which makes me think that’s what it is.
Nevertheless, it still demonstrates the tranny fallacy of transphobes being “eggs”. This, by the way, is a tactic they stole from the lamest defences of homosexuality back in the ‘90s. Everyone who hates them just wants to bang them. It’s not that they want to hatefuck conservatives or TERFs, it’s that they’re too sexy. It’s not like they write whole fucking articles about how hard it is to stop fucking their political opponents.
It’s funny because it’s a man projecting.
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Note: They might also say that the person they’re speaking to is secretly a spider, and explain how the person either does not or does understand that they are a spider. They will have these responses in reaction to you being a li’l’ bit based, as well as any child in response to anything the child says, ever.
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Note: They might also say that the person they’re speaking to is secretly a spider, and explain how the person either does not or does understand that they are a spider. They will have these responses in reaction to you being a li’l’ bit based, as well as any child in response to anything the child says, ever.
I find it ironic that they make this big stink about respecting their identity, and then use crossdressers, IRL and in media, in their transgender memes
100%. They feel entitled to label people however they want and get mad when someone labels them in a way they dislike. They claim to be able to detect eggs, or people who don’t even know they’re trans and who have not come out yet. Then they turn around and say that people can’t tell that a man in a dress is a man in a dress. They call it “transvestigating” and cackle about how it’s so funny and outrageous that people would wager a guess at someone’s sex. No matter that one of the people featured in the thumbnails of the previously linked videos was later confirmed to have a dick, just like the silly “transvestigators” said. Meanwhile, they’re writing literal guides on how to detect closeted crossdressers. Sorry, “A Field Guide to Clocking Terrified Transfem Eggs”. It’s not obvious, but it totally is for them, because they say so. Shut up, bigot.
I think it’s sexual jealousy. A lot of them want to fuck these “femboys” and consider them their ideal partners, save the unsavoury opinions. The fact that they won’t buy into the trans cult is frustrating because, in the mind of the troon, they were so close to being perfect.
Even if it’s a purely parasocial thing, they will feel angry when they see an effete young man who laughs at gender ideology. It’s different when chuds do it, because they don’t want to fuck them. This drives them crazy because it feels like this archetype of person they lust after is out of their reach, or is condemned to “hit twink death” and lose their fuckable essence. It’s sort of like when guys who fixate on tomboys cry over pooners cutting their tits off, or women who get tattoos and piercings. There’s this weird parasocial “you could have been my perfect someone but you ruined yourself”. With the tomboy-enjoyers, it’s a little less insane because pooners are mutilating themselves, but these freaks want to destroy the subject of their sexual obsession. Or don’t care about the consequences, whatever.
I also think that trannies have Peter Pan Syndrome, and are stuck in a perpetual adolescence. I think they resent and hate real children and teenagers the way they loathe real women. Women and children have things they want. When they use those things in ways they don’t approve (ex. Growing old and becoming “testosterone poisoned”), they chimp out.
I love spiders, too! I just didn’t make that meme. And, since they’re classical symbols of feminine power, spiders are fundamentally anti-troon in nature.
Caption: A male (top) and female golden orb-weaver in the genus Nephila. Photograph by Zach Holmes.
“Try identifying as a female when your cephalothorax is in my chelicerae, tranny faggot.”
R/eggirl and most egg cracking people tend to be [MTF] trans people targeting males.
People used to joke that “they’re turning all the tomboys trans” but it seems like these egg crackers want to sissify cis men regardless of how gender conforming they are.
You’re hyper masculine? That’s just an egg waiting to be cracked!
You’re a gender non conforming male? That’s just an egg waiting to be cracked!
They refuse to let people find themselves. [It’s] the same shit religious people try to do to get people to convert.
Exactly. Apparently having a depression beards and shaving off all the hair on body are both symptoms of being trans! Shocking.
I think you are very correct about most of the “pinkpilling” being directed towards boys. It’s even in the name. Even though (as far as I know) estrogen supplements are blue, they still call turning someone trans “pinkpilling” because pink = girl. The whole trend is specifically focused on getting boys to do this.
I think it’s because, when girls do it, it’s part of a group. Think Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria and various instances of social contagion. When boys do it, it’s usually alone in their bedroom, without a peer group. The former can be abused, sure, but the latter is really the ideal target for “Discord-style” predators.
We know through the Eunuch Archives, the Catboy Ranch, etc. that these men get off mutilating other men. A big selling point for fucking trannies for chasers is feeling like they’re the alpha male who turned another man “into a girl”. Keffals gets off to hurting little kids and hooking them on drugs because he’s a sadist. I think a lot of these men know that gender confused boys have a lot of guilt and shame (because they were once gender confused boys) and they use that insight to con them out of “progress pics” and other amateur forms of CSAM.
Nah, dude. Yes, there are exceptions to the rule, but there are definitely animals that are strongly gendered one way or another. This makes sense, because animals do not behave sexually the way human beings do. Bed bug males will traumatically inseminate their females. Part of why spiders (and mantids) are associated with female power is because these are species with sexual cannibalism, where the female eats the male. And, in the way of spiders, sexual size dimorphism that favours the female greatly (see archive below under Foellmer & Moya-Laraño).
Some animals are considered conventional masculine symbols. The “lusty” ram and charging bull are common representatives of masculine virility. Likewise, animals like the spider and the cat are associated with women, considered to be “witches familiars” and the like.
Sure, there are African myths of (male) trickster spider gods. There are also cultures where Sun is associated with women and men are associated with our Moon. That doesn’t change the fact that, in Western esotericism, the spider is a feminine symbol. Why do you think I supplemented my claim with a reference to the Greek myths of Arachne? She is a feminine spider symbol because she was a weaver. That was a job that women typically did, and it’s what many spiders do (See Holmberg 2003 archived below). Exceptions don’t negate trends.
And to really drive the point home, I pulled out my symbolism dictionaries:
Penguin Dictionary of Symbols said:
The spider is regarded in the first place as a lunar manifestation, devoted to spinning and weaving. While the thread is reminiscent of that of the Fates, female characters in Greek myth, as the Koran emphasizes, what is woven is of extreme fragility. 'But verily, frailest of all houses surely is the house of the spider' (Koran 29: 40). This fragility evokes the fragility of a reality which is no more than illusory and deceptive appearance. Whether the spider wove the fabric of the world, or the veil of illusion which conceals the Supreme Reality, was a question which the most ancient of the Vedas asked in India in the second millennium B.C. with the myth of Maya, the shakti or companion of Varuna. This myth received differing interpretations. In Buddhist philosophy, maya was to suggest an illusory reality, because it was empty of being, that is to say devoid of all metaphysical substratum. Brahmanism, on the other hand, regarded it as reality, existence being 'real' since it is a manifestation of Being. Maya's veil, like the spider's web, expresses the beauty of creation and Maya was an important goddess.
The dialectic from which the spider's symbolic ambivalence derives, a fundamental question for Buddhism and Hinduism, is also the dialectic of existence versus being, which may be detected at the very beginnings of Mediterranean culture, if the structure of “Mediterranean culture, if the structure of the myth of Arachne is examined closely.
Athene was the goddess of the Higher Logic, since she sprang fully armed from the head of her father, Zeus. She was the mistress of weaving, but Arachne, a young Lydian girl, a mere mortal, was so gifted in that art that she dared to challenge the goddess. Each sat at their looms facing one another. Athene wove portraits of the twelve Olympians in all their majesty and at the four corners of the fabric depicted the punishments inflicted on mortals who dared to defy them. In reply to this transcendental picture of a higher reality to which mortals cannot attain, Arachne depicted the loves of gods for mortal women. Athene, enraged, struck Arachne with her shuttle. The girl then tried to hang herself. Athene saved her life but changed her into a spider, endlessly swinging at the end of its thread. There is something decidedly Sartrean about a girl challenging a goddess, since it sets this world over the other and even makes Olympus itself subject to human passions. The spider with its contemptible web also symbolizes the failure of the individual who tries to rival God, the punishment of ambition to ape the creator.
Spider symbolism as a whole forms part of the Indo-European cultural heritage and, subject to many different interpretations, occurs scattered at countless cultural levels separately or in isolation. Thus the spider makes its easy appearance in the role of cosmic creator, higher deity or Demiurge. This occurs among many peoples.
In West Africa, Anansi the spider See, I didn’t forget! prepared the material from which the first humans were made and created the Sun, the Moon and the stars. Then Nyame, the sky-god, breathed life into mankind. The spider continued to play the part of go-between between gods and mortals and, as a culture-hero, brought mankind corn and the hoe (MYTF p. 242).
In myths from the Gilbert Islands (Micronesia), Nareau, the Lord Spider, is depicted as the first of all beings and the creator-god (MYTF p. 225). The Ashanti have turned the spider into a primeval god; mankind, they say, was created by a great spider. A legend from Mali describes the spider “as the counsellor of the supreme deity, a culture-hero who 'disguised himself as a bird, flew away and, without his master's knowledge, created Sun, Moon and stars.... Then he created day and night and brought down the dew' (TEGH p. 56).
Since the spider wove the fabric of reality, it rules fate, and this explains its worldwide role as seer. You know, like an oracle? Another feminine archetype? For example, the Bamun in the Cameroons believe that the bird-eating spider has been given “the heavenly privilege of foretelling the future... . Under another of its names, Ngaame, it vies with the royal serpent for first place in the Bamun artists' bestiary.... Its significance is all-embracing and complex. Since it is linked to human destiny and the drama of life on Earth, divination with the Ngaame has produced an art of deciphering the signs.... This involves placing at the opening of the bird-eating spider's hole emblems which the insect will disturb when it emerges with the darkness and will transform into a message. These, the seer will sift to find cures for illness, protection against enemies and enjoyment of life.
Divination through spiders is still practised in the former Inca Empire in Peru. The seer takes the lid off a jar in which the fortune-telling spider is kept. If any one of its legs is straight, this is an evil omen (ROWI).
Lastly, spiders are sometimes symbols of the soul or are among those creatures which conduct souls. The peoples of Siberia and the Altai in central Asia, particularly, regarded the spider as a soul freed from the body. Although the Muisca in Colombia may not believe the spider to be a soul, yet on its boat of spider's web it carries souls across the rivers on their way to the Underworld. To the Aztecs, the spider was a symbol of the god of the Underworld. The Montagnards of southern Vietnam regard the spider as a shape taken by the soul when it leaves the body during sleep and, hence, to kill a spider is to risk killing the sleeper.
All these properties - Demiurge, seer, conductor of souls and hence intermediary between the two worlds of the human and the divine reality - have turned the spider into a symbol, too, of a higher grade of initiation. The Bambara, for example, call spiders a class of initiates who have attained 'internalization, the creative power which the individual draws from meditation and intuition' (ZAHV p. 116).
On the other hand, this internalization, suggested by the spider lurking in the middle of its web, provides the analyst with 'an excellent symbol of introversion and Narcissism, the individual swallowed by his or her own centre' (Beaudoin).
But this embracing and centripetal image should not cause us to forget that other image of the intercessor provided by the image of the spider bouncing like a yoyo at the end of a thread which it seems ceaselesly to be trying to climb. A latent sexual content is detectible (see swing), fully confirmed by studies made in Sardinia and Apulia of 'tarantulism' and its social setting (EMTR pp. 230ff.). On the mystical plane, the thread is reminiscent of the umbilical cord or of the golden chain joining creator and created by which the latter attempts to climb to the former, a motif evoked by Plato and which the Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite echoes.
This is yet another example of unison in Indo-European thought, since the Upanishads turn the spider, spinning its long thread, into a symbol of deliverance. The yogi's thread is the monosyllable aum, thanks to which he can raise himself until he finds release. The spider's thread is the means and support of spiritual self-realization.
Funk & Wagnalls’ Standard Dictionary of Folklore said:
Sex of the spider-character is often made explicit in the myths of other groups. Spider Man and Spider Woman are Navaho supernaturals or Holy People who taught the Earth People how to weave, and established four warnings of death, for example. At Taos Pueblo.
Spider grandmother takes the usual part of resourceful helper in the folktales that she plays in other Pueblo mythologies, and Spider Man is referred to at Taos as a good medicine man. Among the Kiowa, Spider Woman is an astute and helpful old lady, and among the White Mountain Apache, Black Spider Old Woman helps the son of the Sun when he accidentally trips over her hole; she tells him to spend the night with her before going on his dangerous quest, and when he enters her hole he sees many Spider girls lying together without clothes on. In the mythology of the Coeur d'Alene, a Plateau tribe, Spider women are again beneficent beings; they live in the sky and help Coyote's son drop back to earth in a box.
Association of the Great Goddess with the spider occurs in myths of both the Old World and the New. The pre-Hellenic Athene, spinner of fate, once bore the name of Arachne in a spider incarnation.
Later Hellenic mythographers claimed that Arachne was Athene's rival, a mortal whom the Goddess transformed into a spider through jealousy of her spinning skill. However, this was a reinterpretation of older myths designating the triune Goddess as spinner, measurer, and cutter of life's threads, and spoke of souls as flies in her cosmic web. The six arms and two legs of ancient East Indian Goddess figures may have been associated with the eight-legged spider, as well as with Odin's eight-legged steed of universal fate. Surely the common concept of the Goddess's destroyer aspect, as the Crone devouring her consort in the moment of his love-death, was not unrelated to the known habits of spiders.
Pueblo Indians called Spider Woman the creator of the universe, with such names as Kokyangwuti, Tsitsicinako, and Sussistanako, Thought Woman, Thinking Woman. The world was her brainchild. She began creation by spinning two threads, east-west and north-south. She produced two daughters, who made the sun and moon. She made the people of the earth from white, red, yellow, and black clay. Several times she destroyed the world and remade it, as spiders do their webs, saving only those wise ones who keep contact with her via the invisible strands spun to the tops of their heads - a concept very like the "lotus light" chakra in Hindu belief.
Spider Woman was somewhat modified by Kiowa myth into Spider Grandmother, a Prometheus-like heroine who brought light to the world. She took fire and the sun from the eastern land of light. She tossed the sun up into the sky, keeping a small piece for the gift of fire to her people.
In Ghana, the Spider Goddess was named Anansi. Transported to the New World, she became the Haitian voodoo Spider Woman known as Aunt Nancy.
Yeah, that's pretty much where I was going with this, and I have edited the title to match.
Also, people hace doubted that this subreddit is deserving of a thread, and I think that mostly falls on me for being hasty in making this thread.
There are multiple instances of trying to assign transgenderism to people's behaviour. Arin hanson being an example. Being posted there for... looking too feminine.
The Arin Hanson thing has been around for a while. There used to be threads on 4chan’s /lgbt/ board where people would list celebrities likely to troon out, and he was always one of them.
Because I assume the person they’re getting mad at is “cis”. Trannies are allowed to speculate on who’s next, but nasty mean cis bigots either can’t or shouldn’t. Different rules for them, me, and thee.
God, and they wonder why people hate them so much. Do they not realize this makes normal people not want to associate with them? God, imagine being friends with a tranny who is "totally not like this", but one day decides you have too many "egg qualities", and makes you into their own personal pet project, supposedly to "help" you.
I think the male “egg crackers” are doing it for sexual reasons, but I also think that female egg crackers exist. They’re not motivated by the coom, but by a desperate need to be some grand social activist. I have straight up heard female teachers ask another female if she “felt like a man”. There definitely a cohort of young woman who feels it’s her job to save some fledgling trans “girl”. Here’s some excerpts from an essay entitled Dear Teen Girls: Leave the Vulnerable Kids Alone:
Donna M. said:
The one school friend he kept in touch with was a girl we’d known for a while, slightly funky, but generally pretty cool. As he began to sink lower, it was clear she was becoming more important to him. When I asked if he might have a crush on her, he’d responded that she was a lesbian… So he has a clear motive to identify as transgender, in order to get the girl.
Forty-eight hours after my son announced to us that he thought he might be trans, this teen girl sent me a text congratulating me on having a trans son, saying I must be so proud, and offering to help educate me if I had any questions. You might be surprised to hear that I did not take a teenage girl up on her offer of advice on the psychosocial and sexual development of my son.
Her gall continued. It was clear she had found a new venue for her deep desire to venge justice upon the world. Clearly, this was a wounded and neglected trans boy whose parents just didn’t understand him. Despite her busy schedule of therapy to deal with her anorexia, cutting, and suicide attempt, she found time to provide him clothing and test out nail polish on him.
By January, he was pulling out of his depression, desisting from his trans identity, engaged and happy, and doing well in school.
In late winter, he invited a few friends over (socially distanced – relax!), including the now “non-binary” girl. As a gift, she snuck him some more girl’s clothes.
If someone tells you they think they might be trans, your job is not to fix them. If they seem anxious, depressed, or have low self-esteem, being supportive does not mean blind affirmation nor any affirmation at all. This person is fragile, yes. This person needs friendship and support. But the best thing you can say is “I really like you just as you are. Right now.” Anything else, any slight tipping of the scale, or gentle breath on their sail reflects deep narcissism on your part. You are not God. This is not your call to make nor your battle to wage. Back off.
Someone else mentioned their vitriol for femboys earlier. I think part of that is frustrated lust, but I also think that what you’re saying is a part of it too. That’s why they say shit like “this person should just transition already”.
Excuse me for sounding like a boomer, I don't watch anime at all, but why do they always post either this same exact character over and over again with just different text?
I pulled these off the subreddit just now, and sorting by top by month or week just slightly increases the non-anime memes by a microscopic amount.
Only 10% of the memes here had non-anime shit are were just straight up copied from r/196.
If I'm being completely honest, I don't see any of the egg-cracking grooming on the sub right now that everyone and OP was talking about. It's all just generic memes over and over again. All the "egg cracking" is just troons talking about life pre-troon and the "signs". I don't see any actual attempts at converting those outside the trans-sphere.
This feels like r/196 but if you filtered out posts that included any mention of anything other than being MTF. I understand why troons want to die so much now. If I had to constantly see the exact same meme template over and over again for the rest of my life as my only source of humor, I would be miserable as well. The kawaii aesthetic can only be novel for so long.
Why is it always the MTF's? Why is it always them that are making the most trash and not the pooners?
It’s almost like buying regular clothes is a chore, whereas buying “girls clothes” is titillating because this dude is an autogynephile. “Why do I like doing chores more when I get to have a boner?” Gee whiz, I have no clue.
We gotta get more clothes like the extremely over-detailed shit in Genshin Impact to get the troons to shut the fuck up about men's clothes being too boring
It’s funny because that’s how I, a nasty bigot, clock trannies and potential trannies. A buddy of mine is a teacher, and she can always tell which boys are going to email her “their preferred pronouns” by their smell, wearing of anime (particularly aheago) clothing, long greasy metalhead hair, and chipped nail-polish. Thanks for helping us identify you, trannies. Very cool.
Funny you should say that because female fans of Metalocalypse are especially fond of casting Pickles - the short drummer with parental issues - as a “transman”. Never mind that Murderface was the one giving off gay vibes, because he’s not sexy. They still end up casting “FTM Pickles” as the “band mom” and a bottom to Nathan, so it’s clear that even the greatest supporters of transmen see them as women, lol.
You see a lot of explicit pornographic content(with the clear goal of inducing dysphoric feelings in coomers), as well as outright glee at the thought of "egg cracking"-carried out with dedicated pleasurable malice.**
Fascinating. I discussed this when I was chimping out in the Philosophy Tube thread. He made a joke about Musk and Rowling having a transgender daughter (FTM). I said that it seems insane for a trans-identifying person to fantasize about “trans kids” being raised by “bigots”. I said that it showed how Philosophy Tube sees cracking eggs as a means to spite the child’s parents, with zero concern for how their “trans sibling” will fare a month after they move out. They really do hate each other and hurt each other way more than any bigots could. I agree with you, us bigots need to step up our game.
Bingo. These people hate others. They target children because a child’s body and soul is more fresh, more delicious to violate, and suffers for a longer time. If you want to have an impact — and that’s what the sadist wants - attacking a child makes more sense. A grown man or woman can walk off a scary situation, but a child is less likely to. The harm caused is inherently longer lasting because the child has the rest of their life to live. The Eunuch Archives, pinkpilling, “egg cracking”, etc. are all about castrating and damaging a child for life, which is a sadists wet dream.
Depends on the tranny. Some of them really are shocked to discover that not all women are anime ingenues. Another cohort desperately cling to exceptionally masculine women as a desperate cope. If these manly dykes (as they see them) can be women, then why not a man who is totally more feminine than them (for reals you guys!)? They’re constantly arguing that black women are basically men, so some suburban white boy like them can totally be a woman! They have lower blood testosterone! Sure, that also applies to elderly men in nursing homes, and they’re not women, nor does it undo the years of testosterone exposure nor the fundamentally sexed character of every cell… but… shut up! You’re a bigot!
James Lindsay is very hit-or-miss in my book, but he made an excellent point about how many of these woke movements have a “gnostic” character. Thankfully he’s not the only one who made that argument. That is, the physical world (sex) is inherently bad and evil and the only goodness is the spark of the divine (gender) inside oneself. I’ve seen trannies discuss Gnosticism and Hermeticism and claim that it vindicates their behaviour (usually through some silly appropriation of Mercury’s androgynous symbolism).
The comment about “milky” mantits induced by roids made me nauseous. It also made me remember legitimate comparisons between trannies and steroid abusers. Well, gymrat steroid abusers… they’re all steroid junkies, technically.
Yep. That’s another tactic. Telling the emotionally frightened teenager that they will always feel this way, they will end up like John 50, and that they can either “crack” now while they’re hot or “crack” later when they’re “gigahons”. That’s why they constantly share and meme that “John 50” dude from that developmental review of trannies.
They want to use that story to scare children into thinking their situation is inescapable. “You don’t want to be one of these gross monsters, right? Not when you can be a cute girl! These are your only two options! You can either transition now or later, the pain will never stop”. It’s a false dichotomy intended to strike terror and prevent higher reasoning. It’s how you induce a state of learned helplessness. It’s emotional abuse.
They only have each other. Straight men don't like them, straight women don't like them, lesbians don't like them, and gay men don't like them either. Their choice is either be with another tranny or just keep gooning forever.
You’re extremely correct. And that is a statistical fact. And most bisexuals want actual men and women, not parodies of them. And trannies hate when self-proclaimed bisexuals hit on them because they want to be validated as their chosen gender.
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I find it interesting how they will openly admit that the textbook symptoms of autogynephlia are incredibly common but the moment you call it autogynephilia they start saying that this is unscientific and not a real thing.
Funny enough, this isn’t the first time I heard this argument. I couldn’t find the source, but I remember reading a Wordpress (?) blog by a (shockingly honest) troon. He fully admitted that Ed Gein was a tranny, and that his crimes were autogynephilic ones, which is how I found his blog and why I bothered to read it. He said (in another post) that being a tranny is a “slippery slope”. You start investing money into women’s clothes and butt plugs. You start hanging around other trannies. They keep building up, reinforcing, and establishing their trans persona, and do not invest in their (real) male selves. Eventually, their “male” life is devoid of anything of value.
The addiction metaphor fits perfectly, since a lot of junkies will lose friends and opportunities as a result of their compulsions. It also conforms to the forensics literature on sex offenders and their patterns of escalation. This is why trannies in women’s bathrooms bother me so much. We’re rewarding nascent sex offenders for lingering around women’s toilets by letting them smell, hear, and see women and girls on the toilet. I and another poster in this thread have talked about this before in another thread and I agreed with them fully and completely.
Has anyone, EVER, been told there that “yeah sounds like just a fetish. And it’s totally fine! Just enjoy cross dressing without worrying about transitioning?
No, because autogynephilia is in direct contradiction of their motivation. They want to be a sexy lady. Remembering that they’re a perverted man whose cock twitches when he sees ballerina shoes destroys that illusion. If they acknowledge autogynephilia is real in others, then they’re fucked. That’s why they attempt to reject autogynephilia entirely. It’s not that they don’t have it, it’s that it’s “debunked” wholesale. How one debunks a fetish that plenty of people admit to is beyond me, but thinking deeply isn’t a tranny virtue. Lived experience only counts if it supports their worldview.
Anyway, sorry for multiposting so many times in this thread.
I kept writing posts with the intention of adding to them as I read through the thread, but something IRL keeps popping up, and so I ran out of time twice. I just wanted to read and react to this whole thing before moving on to another one. Hope it’s not too annoying for everyone and I’ll try to be more punctual in the future.
As penance, have some thread taxes: A bunch of tranny bingo cards, so you can play along with the grooming and abuse of children! Yay!
Archived source here.
This one pissed me off because I’ve noticed the abundance of trannies called “Morgana” (his actual name is “Mick”, BTW) or “Athena” or “Boudica”. They can’t let women have anything, can they?
The poster’s (u/JDM_V1BES) Reddit account, and an archive of it. He identifies as a “Joanne”.
According to his own description, he “likes cars”, so he’s yet another tranny with conventionally masculine hobbies.
An archive of the thread to which this image was posted.
His Reddit account lead me to his Spotify profile - which includes lots of anime nonsense and a “gaming” playlist. It’s not archiving properly so I took screenshots.
It also lead me to his Instagram account, (cjcris89), which I archived here. There, he alludes to another username, J0anne926 and says he “likes eggs”.
‘89 sounds like a birth year, and one that would make him about 36 years-old.
He “likes eggs”? Is this guy using the egg subreddits to meet sexually confused children?
CJCris sounds like a name. As in, his full name is Cris J. [Surname] and “C.J.” is his nickname.
This in turn lead me to his Facebook profile, where he says he lives in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. I archived it here.
I was also lead to his Threads profile, archived here.
One of the excuses the “egg community” makes is that people are free to examine their gender and conclude that they’re not trans after all.Archive of original post they’re responding to is available here.
That is such an obvious lie because, as your screenshot shows, they clearly think that perseverating on this topic is proof of transness. Never mind the fact OCD exists, or that autistics form hyper-fixations, or that trans-identifying people are more likely to be neurodivergent, or that religious scrupulosity is a thing and trans is basically a religious cult complete with thought-crime. It’s like The Game. If you think about it, you lose.
The 40 year old youtuber ProtonJon came out as a TIM recently and this person MamaOcco asked Jon when he "discovered" he was trans and MamaOcco admits that she was worried that the "Egg cracking" culture of the trans community convinced Jon that he was trans. What I find interesting here is that Jon doesn't call her a transphobe for insisting that trannies groom people through "egg cracking" because she claims she followers content creators who were indeed groomed. Of course, he does insist that he's still one of the outliers and that he wasn't groomed by his audience
Again, why would she be worried about this? I thought "Egg cracking" was just a way to get the "True trans" people to come out?
I'm glad these retards are castrating themselves and ending their bloodlines. Hopefully this prevents them from having and molesting a kid. All faggots need to be pressured into being trans and getting bottom surgery. This is a net positive
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Again, why would she be worried about this? I thought "Egg cracking" was just a way to get the "True trans" people to come out?
What's with unfunny gaming YouTubers trooning out? Imagine devoting your existence to a hobby and then getting psyoped into mutilating yourself because you watched too much Internet porn.
Just LOL
