US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[John Badman]

Trump just posted this on his Truth social.
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Day of the rake can’t come soon enough.

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

It's like asking if why, when WWII was started in response to the invasion of Poland, did we hand Poland over to one of the two invaders.

Minor PL, but I feel it's related to this and a good example of how NPCs behave - slightly long:

Speaking of these sorts of people who get so irate about the official narrative of the Second World War, you should meet my 94yo grandmother* - I had a discussion with her and my uncle about this a few months ago. I was calm, they were both elevating. I mentioned I was approving about Trump getting back in because of no shooting war with Russia, and it didn't take long for my uncle to start talking about the Nuremburg Trials and my grandmother getting very loud with me about the Holocaust. I was accused by my uncle of "minimizing" the Holocaust because I asked if people in America get this worked up about Stalin or Pol Pot, and I was told Hitler is an "overall image of evil" or something to that effect.**

My grandmother used the word "isolationist" when talking to me, and I said I agree with that as policy. She began to rant about being curious about neighbors who had "another color/culture" and then screamed "No! Never!" while walking away from me when I said enough time has passed where we can look at the Second World War objectively.*** How sad, just resign yourself to being a drone sitting in front of a TV for the rest of your life.

The most interesting part is both my grandmother and uncle went slack when the discussion was over, and later talked to me the same day like nothing ever happened. I inwardly likened it to talking to two robots.

* She thinks she is Ukrainian despite having one Ukrainian grandparent she never met who died long before she was born.
** In other words a bogeyman, but I didn't use this word.
*** Her responses to the words "isolationist" and "objective" tell me she likely doesn't know what they mean.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Minor PL, but I feel it's related to this and a good example of how NPCs behave - slightly long:

If you want a bit of hilarity, the National Airforce Museum has a Holocaust section. Not sure why it's really even there, but it certainly doesn't mention that Allied destruction of Germany's logistical networks certainly contributed to the reprioritization of resources away from the camps and likely the starvation and such found there. Not minimizing things, I doubt we'll ever know the actually numbers at this point, but pointing these things out is treated as heresy. The whole "geopolitics must have a good guy and a bad guy," started with the PWC and it's made a mess of foreign policy ever since. Part of the reason Kissinger is seen as evil as is simply because he practiced realpolitik, not Marvel fantasy politics.

 

[grocerygoblin]

January 20th cannot come soon enough.

Is there any rule that says Biden can't hand over the reins early?

 

[pwnest injun]

Nah. They get to be a non voting territory for at least 100 years until they homogonize with the rest of the US. That includes getting the French in there to stop being French. Teach the savages some fucking English

Once a Leaf eats 1000 Big Macs, he can be afforded civilian status.

 

[Random Internet Person]

 

[Übertroon]

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Ah, acceptance at last

 

[GunCar Gary]

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cutting off your nose to spite someone else's face in the next state over

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

I imagine Trump’s annexation of Canada would go something like this:

 

[High-Fructose Corn Syrup]

Trump just posted this on his Truth social.
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Why is he standing in front of the matterhorn with that flag?

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Ah, acceptance at last

cutting off your nose to spite someone else's face in the next state over

"We'll show those chuds, we'll give them what they want!"

 

[Kulee Baba]

Speaking of these sorts of people who get so irate about the official narrative of the Second World War, you should meet my 94yo grandmother* - I had a discussion with her and my uncle about this a few months ago. I was calm, they were both elevating. I mentioned I was approving about Trump getting back in because of no shooting war with Russia, and it didn't take long for my uncle to start talking about the Nuremburg Trials and my grandmother getting very loud with me about the Holocaust. I was accused by my uncle of "minimizing" the Holocaust because I asked if people in America get this worked up about Stalin or Pol Pot, and I was told Hitler is an "overall image of evil" or something to that effect.**

I’d give your granny a break because WW2 was simply was romanticized as a battle of good vs evil and we just generally don’t like to just recognize it was always about control of Europe. Churchill didn’t want a New Austro-Hungarian empire.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Ah, acceptance at last

This reminds me of the Media Literacy types or the Fandom Tourists. They act like the reason we disagree with them is that simply don't know these things so they have to explain, say, Warhammer 40k to hardcore Warhammer 40k fans, because clearly the people that have invested in it for years just don't know that there's no good guys. They're only disagreeing with me, the enlightened super-intelligent Leftist because they're ignorant. I voted for Trump three times because I want him to throw hand grenades into the System. I want this motherfucker burned to the ground, I want illegals sent back no matter the economic cost, I want birthright citizenship ended, I want bureaucrats whining like the bitches that they are. I want Trumpism and I want it good and hard, I just wish he was half the guy the Left thinks he is.

Technically I also want actual death camps for 99.9% of Jeets too, except for the one I know that's actually alright, but you know, baby steps.

 

[mandatorylurk]

The DEA nominee who liked going after Christians during Chyna Virus withdrew his name, looks like we are able to rattle enough people in the senate to make him not feasible

 

[Sekirodiealot]

Isn't Pakman the guy that tweeted out his confusion over all the squares and rectangles east of Denver?

yes

 

[WhiskeyJack]

Isn't Pakman the guy that tweeted out his confusion over all the squares and rectangles east of Denver?

Kyle Kulinski, actually.

https://x.com/KyleKulinski/status/1190737140688326656

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

I’d give your granny a break because WW2 was simply was romanticized as a battle of good vs evil and we just generally don’t like to just recognize it was always about control of Europe. Churchill didn’t want a New Austro-Hungarian empire.

I've thought that Silent Generation people are some of the most propagandized in human history. Doesn't help when you watch cable news nonstop.

 

[Betonhaus]

There is a movement in Alberta to separate from Canada, with polls getting 45-48% of people wanting to split. It isn't taken seriously because one look at the map would show that Alberta has no coast and so Canada and the US would have complete control over trade and transportation and BC wouldn't join Alberta and moving stuff through the territories would be a pain. But if an opportunity for Alberta to join the States then there would be a lot of momentum and people may actually go for it, and Alberta alone is a much easier sell. The population density is low enough that they won't infest the other states, and once they're naturalised then Saskatchewan and maybe Manitoba could be invited to k=join, giving America all the prairie provinces. it does fracture the country, with the Territories either joining the states or entering Russian control, BC becomes a vassal of China, and Canada continues to exist as a much smaller country that nobody cares about.


All the blue areas could become part of America with the red and green ignored.

 

[Levitcus prime24]

I've thought that Silent Generation people are some of the most propagandized in human history. Doesn't help when you watch cable news nonstop.

Ww2 has become mythologized in a sense, look at how Russia views ww2 for example, they view it as ”heroic red army fighting against the evil nazis” and then when you actually looked into soviet war tactics you realize they were no different in terms of the nazis when it came to doctrine, strategy and rhetoric.

 

[What the shit]

There is a movement in Alberta to separate from Canada, with polls getting 45-48% of people wanting to split. It isn't taken seriously because one look at the map would show that Alberta has no coast and so Canada and the US would have complete control over trade and transportation and BC wouldn't join Alberta and moving stuff through the territories would be a pain. But if an opportunity for Alberta to join the States then there would be a lot of momentum and people may actually go for it, and Alberta alone is a much easier sell. The population density is low enough that they won't infest the other states, and once they're naturalised then Saskatchewan and maybe Manitoba could be invited to k=join, giving America all the prairie provinces. it does fracture the country, with the Territories either joining the states or entering Russian control, BC becomes a vassal of China, and Canada continues to exist as a much smaller country that nobody cares about.

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All the blue areas could become part of America with the red and green ignored.

While the possibility of that is unbelievably slim, Canada would never allow their territory to go into the hands of America. Their whole history is "not being America." It would be not only an economic blow but a morale blow.

 

[clipartfan92]

Eric Adams Suggests the Biden Pardon Proves He Was Also Targeted
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By Dana Rubinstein and William K. Rashbaum
2024-12-03 23:38:40GMT

The mayor has argued that he was indicted because he criticized border policies. He also said that he has rights that migrants do not because “the Constitution is for Americans.”

Spoiler

Eric Adams, the indicted mayor of New York City, on Tuesday presented what might be deemed his closing arguments in the court of public opinion.

Ever since federal prosecutors indicted Mr. Adams in September on corruption charges, the mayor has protested his innocence and suggested, without evidence, that the case is payback for his outspoken resistance to President Biden’s border policies.

On Tuesday, Mr. Adams offered what he seemed to suggest was a piece of evidence. Bending down to pull a copy of the day’s New York Times from behind his lectern, he read from a front-page article related to Mr. Biden’s pardon of his son Hunter.

“President Biden and President-elect Donald Trump now agree on one thing,” he read, eliding the president-elect’s middle initial. “The Biden Justice Department has been politicized.”

“Does that sound familiar?” a smiling Mr. Adams asked the reporters gathered for his weekly “off-topic” question-and-answer session at City Hall.

“I rest my case.”

Mr. Adams was charged with bribery, wire fraud, conspiracy and two counts of soliciting foreign contributions for his mayoral campaign.

Last week, the mayor made the same argument in particularly explicit form in an interview with The Wall Street Journal. The reporter asked if he considered his indictment retribution for his criticism of Mr. Biden’s immigration policies.

“Yes, I do,” Mr. Adams responded. “People were not happy with me. It doesn’t have to be the president, because there are a lot of other people unhappy that I fought for this city.”

Mr. Adams has made this assertion even though the investigation by the United States attorney’s office for the Southern District of New York that culminated in his indictment began in 2021 — before he was mayor, and before the influx of more than 200,000 migrants into New York City began.

A spokesman for the Southern District declined to comment on Mr. Adams’s remarks.

The mayor’s willingness to question the motives of the Justice Department that is prosecuting him echoed Mr. Trump’s messaging on his own indictments — two on federal charges and two accusing him of state crimes.

Mr. Biden’s decision to also suggest the Justice Department’s prosecution of his son was influenced by politics caused significant hand-wringing among some Democratic leaders. They worried it would both damage Mr. Biden’s legacy and make it harder to defend the Justice Department from Mr. Trump’s plans to wield it for political purposes.

The Times’s article cited by Mr. Adams included a critique from one such Democrat, Gov. Jared Polis of Colorado, who said that “this is a bad precedent that could be abused by later presidents and will sadly tarnish his reputation.”

Mr. Adams on Tuesday evinced no such concerns.

When a reporter asked him why he thought he was a victim of political payback, given that the Southern District investigation began before he took office, the mayor did not answer the question directly.

But he did denounce the investigation itself and his own inability to properly defend himself, lest he run afoul of his lawyers’ advice not to speak about the specifics of his case.

“There was this photo of Muhammad Ali, when he was, like, he had the arrows in him,” Mr. Adams said, putting his hands behind his back and lifting his eyes toward the ceiling. He was referring to the April 1968 Esquire magazine cover for a story titled, “The Passion of Muhammad Ali,” his spokeswoman later confirmed.

“Do you know how much I want to respond to this stuff?” the mayor continued. “And every day, before I do off-topics, my lawyers said, ‘Don’t you do it.’ Cause you know, I’m just a fighter. I believe in fighting for my rights. And this is the hardest thing I’ve ever done in my entire life.”

Mr. Adams’s pugilistic stance seems to contrast with the conciliatory approach he has embraced toward the incoming president. On Tuesday, he said he had reached out to the president-elect’s “border czar,” Thomas Homan, to learn more about the incoming administration’s plans for immigrants in New York City, particularly those who have been accused of crimes.

He also suggested that immigrants charged with crimes did not necessarily deserve the due process that he himself is receiving, as a defendant in a criminal indictment.

“Americans have certain rights. The Constitution is for Americans, and I’m not a person that snuck into this country,” Mr. Adams said.

The New York Immigration Coalition, in a statement issued after Mr. Adams’s remarks, said, “Everyone residing in the United States regardless of their immigration status has specific inalienable rights under the Constitution, including the right to due process.”

Mr. Adams said that Mr. Homan was receptive to meeting with him and that they had communicated as recently as Tuesday morning.

“I’m not going to be warring with this administration," Mr. Adams said. “I’m going to be working with this administration.”

Reporters have repeatedly asked the mayor if he is being so friendly to the incoming administration partly because he would like a presidential pardon from Mr. Trump after he takes office.

Mr. Adams has denied any personal motivation, and did so again on Tuesday, pointing out that not only does he support Mr. Trump’s decision to name Elon Musk to co-lead a panel to improve “government efficiency,” but that he has himself talked about the need to tackle government inefficiency for years.

“I’m not agreeing with them because of any other reason than I agree with them,” Mr. Adams said. “How about that?”