Why Modern women expectations are too high and unrealistic?

I'm gonna ignore the shitshow and just put this down here.

What realistic solutions or advice would one give to men? Young men, teens, men in their 20s/30s that were too socially inept. I wind up talking to plenty of these due to my hobbies and extended family. I have zilch experience in dating and I don't like restating "common sense" adages I hear because it doesn't work on a lot of these dudes.

I refuse to get involved in manosphere or shit flinging culture wars stuff in any of these IRL experiences. I recognize my own issues and simply wish to know what's a good method of trying to direct people into an appropriate answer. It's just that I've seen things go so steadily weird that I've seen teens I know IRL act so damned weird. I've met dudes who were so caught up in things and didn't really wind up doing anything with women for one reason or another. They pretty much got into porn and kept that under the hood.

It's weird. I keep getting asked to have chats with them by their own mothers or aunties and it's just something I'm not sure how to approach properly.
 
What realistic solutions or advice would one give to men?
Be attractive don't be unattractive, stop taking it so serious, go outside and talk to girls but most importantly have fun. It takes some time but you can learn how to draw the rest of the owl.

Also you're going to be rejected and you just got to deal with it.
 
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I'm gonna ignore the shitshow and just put this down here.

What realistic solutions or advice would one give to men? Young men, teens, men in their 20s/30s that were too socially inept. I wind up talking to plenty of these due to my hobbies and extended family. I have zilch experience in dating and I don't like restating "common sense" adages I hear because it doesn't work on a lot of these dudes.

I refuse to get involved in manosphere or shit flinging culture wars stuff in any of these IRL experiences. I recognize my own issues and simply wish to know what's a good method of trying to direct people into an appropriate answer. It's just that I've seen things go so steadily weird that I've seen teens I know IRL act so damned weird. I've met dudes who were so caught up in things and didn't really wind up doing anything with women for one reason or another. They pretty much got into porn and kept that under the hood.

It's weird. I keep getting asked to have chats with them by their own mothers or aunties and it's just something I'm not sure how to approach properly.
In my expierence the "common sense adages" like work out, get off the internet, get a hobby, talk to people etc. do work its just people fail to execute them. My cheat code is get a motorcycle, the vibrations from riding it rub the womens clit, they love that shit.
 
Hypergamy doesn't really exist outside of dating apps, where there is a massive imbalance between genders. If there are many more men on an app than there are women, it stands to reason that women will go for the most attractive men. It's simple supply and demand.
You don't talk to enough women then.
I seriously doubt that any women thinks like that.
Yes, in fact many women think like that. I've personally asked this same question to many women and it's literally the first answer.

I will follow it up by saying I have spent my entire life from diapers to adulthood in some of the absolute worst places on the planet for dating. It never got better and only got worse over time. Places where people are vein, vapid, narcissistic, and absolutely awful in general. Every bad stereotype about women isn't just the norm for the places I've lived, but it's pretty much expected behavior by this point.
i don't care about your milf fetish, i was pointing out your metaphor didn't make sense.
Something, something, hot dog down hallway.

Have YOU ever downed 2 boxes of wine in a single night? Didn't think so. Don't doubt it till you try it, that's why I don't make fun of Indian street food.
All I can say to that is you've clearly never met people who drank. You might think you know drinking, but you don't know drinking. I've seen plenty of women who really friggin drank. You're talking a box, sometimes two if it's a day off.
 
Chris Chan is smashing box theres no excuse.

You're just a fucking loser, it has nothing to do with wealth, status, owning a car, a house, your job. You simply have zero rizz and average women are repulsed when they hear those mudflaps open and close. Women only have high expectations from your perspective because most of you just want sex the most low effort offering a woman can provide instead of making an actual connection and profound bond with someone. Its childish, the retards you see on tiktok arent representative of "modern women".

Personally I meet good women all the time, hard working, well meaning kind women. Its not them it's you
 
Chris-Chan is famous, it's a pretty simple explanation, but then again using Chris-Chan as a counterexample to incels is kind of not the strongest piece of evidence because not only did he end up getting a girlfriend well into his 40s, but it is clear that Flutter is having some serious regrets about ever dating Chris-Chan.
COPE
 
You're in 2d women are better than 3d territory.
And artificial womb, porn, sex dolls, robots etc.

And yet, You are still here trying to convince me and other women to date men bellow their standards.

Its either alpha fucks or beta bucks . Dying alone is preferable than lifetime with you or any other failmale. Which part you don't understand of this?
It's weird. I keep getting asked to have chats with them by their own mothers or aunties and it's just something I'm not sure how to approach properly
There is ask femoid advice in off topic/ girl tawk forum, be warned most of the women are burned out dealing with whiny incels you might get to tongue lashing. But sounds like moms are desperate for grandkids and women in question are done with men. But you can always shoot your shoot over Facebook or whatever you use.
 
What realistic solutions or advice would one give to men?
  • Dont try to get a women to like you. Instead try to be a man that is likeable.
  • Don't dislike and disparage women and expect them to love you in return.
  • Don't watch pornography.
  • Get a job. Clean your room. Improve your life.
Just general life advice I suppose...
 
Isn't it interesting how men always complain about western women having too high standards, but for some reason they don't want to move to the many wonderful countries where women don't have any rights and arranged marriages still exist like the middle east or India? I wonder why Incels don't want to move to those countries...? Could it be that countries where women don't get to be picky about who to procreate with are full of ugly low IQ goatfuckers? 🤔 Almost like incel paradise where every low value genetic dead end male is guaranteed a wife and kids turn to shit because it produces a bunch of low value people who were never meant to pass on their shitty genes.
 
Funnily enough, all men with motorcycles that I know are terminally single. One sold his and immediately got a gf after. You're probably better off with a cool non-cringe car.
They are single because all women and simply out of their league. People with Motorcycles are too cool for school, and women.

Isn't it interesting how men always complain about western women having too high standards, but for some reason they don't want to move to the many wonderful countries where women don't have any rights and arranged marriages still exist like the middle east or India? I wonder why Incels don't want to move to those countries...? Could it be that countries where women don't get to be picky about who to procreate with are full of ugly low IQ goatfuckers? 🤔 Almost like incel paradise where every low value genetic dead end male is guaranteed a wife and kids turn to shit because it produces a bunch of low value people who were never meant to pass on their shitty genes.
Do they make the goats cum though?
 
You forgot
  • Get a motorcycle.
Woah woah let's hear him out alright. Actually I think Incels SHOULD buy motorcycles. If you think about it motorcycles are really cool and totally hot, especially when the guy drives fast and reckless, amiright ladies? Just something about those vibrations and the leather jacket and the guy weaving at high speeds through traffick is extremely hot! Especially during winter, imagine the snowflakes glistening in his hair and on the leather jacket as he slides across the ice to come to a super cool stop like in an action movie! I think I would immediately have sex with such a man! Buy your motorcycle today for guaranteed pussy! But remember not to drive like some wimp coward. Traffick laws and helmets are for betas only.
 
Woah woah let's hear him out alright. Actually I think Incels SHOULD buy motorcycles. If you think about it motorcycles are really cool and totally hot, especially when the guy drives fast and reckless, amiright ladies? Just something about those vibrations and the leather jacket and the guy weaving at high speeds through traffick is extremely hot! Especially during winter, imagine the snowflakes glistening in his hair and on the leather jacket as he slides across the ice to come to a super cool stop like in an action movie! I think I would immediately have sex with such a man! Buy your motorcycle today for guaranteed pussy! But remember not to drive like some wimp coward. Traffick laws and helmets are for betas only.
See, now THIS is a women who's clit has been vibrated by the humming of a M-cycle, (M-cycle is short for Motorcycle, if you didn't know) I'm telling ya, M-cycles (motorcycles, M-cycle is a slang term, just fyi) are a cheat code for most women. Any sort of "standards" you think women have go out the window the minute they see that luxurious beast of twisted metal.
 
Isn't it interesting how men always complain about western women having too high standards, but for some reason they don't want to move to the many wonderful countries where women don't have any rights and arranged marriages still exist like the middle east or India? I wonder why Incels don't want to move to those countries...? Could it be that countries where women don't get to be picky about who to procreate with are full of ugly low IQ goatfuckers? 🤔 Almost like incel paradise where every low value genetic dead end male is guaranteed a wife and kids turn to shit because it produces a bunch of low value people who were never meant to pass on their shitty genes.
And yet, it's western women that are childless and a genetic dead end.
Even abduls 9th wife and two other goats in their mud shed have more kids than average western femcel.
It is ironic, that westoid women don't have enough foresight that if white men are gone, they are gonna get raped day and night by the hordes.
 
And yet, it's western women that are childless and a genetic dead end.
Even abduls 9th wife and two other goats in their mud shed have more kids than average western femcel.
It is ironic, that westoid women don't have enough foresight that if white men are gone, they are gonna get raped day and night by the hordes.
All western women will have to do is purchase a goat and put it outside their house. It will work like a lighting rod, but instead of lighting it will be rapists.
 
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