Unpopular views about music

Madvillany is the most overrated album out there. Madlib isn't that great of a producer compared to J Dilla, and only nerds listen to MF Doom
Beats, rhymes and life kicks mfdooms ass, every mfdoom album couldn't beat atcq combined and specifically this song which jdilla worked on kicks a lot of mfdooms shit out the window too.
Its an addicting song, be careful.
Here's the downloaded version if youtube is being a fag.
 
Last edited:
It might not be an unpopular opinion here, but to the greater public my age it is. I listen to rap and enjoy it while driving or doing something where I don't need to focus. I do however think the genre as a whole is built upon theft and laziness. "Sampling" is theft. "Production" is just stealing with a vision, and mashing the stolen good music onto the computer and adding drums. Rap has been held back by production and pure laziness for a few decades now. Some rappers come out to live bands and instrumentation at Coachella or other festivals, but never decide to use real instruments for their albums.

"All art is theft" is said often, but usually those artists who stole used that technique to apply it to their own craft and full effort and created something within the same medium. Rap is like taking pictures of amazing paintings and making a collage everyone freaks out over. Most fans don't even know the original song. My adult life has been filled with discovering old music and saying "holy shit this was a sample too?" and loving the original song more.

Comparing the theft of existing songs to the writing and performing of original songs is a joke.

Here is Playboi Carti playing one of his big songs with an actual guitarist, it gives the entire song ENERGY and a pulse, why not do this for all of your songs instead of rapping over the instrumental track playing through some speakers?


View attachment 6407128
I hate when they sample, especially if it’s an old song most people are familiar with. It’s always, “Is it that song?”, and you have to explain sampling to them.
 
That first album completely rapes the shit the band has put out since "reuniting".
Agreed, though I do like Désolé a lot; I’m kinda glad that bossa nova started to explode in popularity - its legacy is getting a better treatment than most of the music genres from 20th century that became a trend in the past couple of years.
 
Beats, rhymes and life kicks mfdooms ass, every mfdoom album couldn't beat atcq combined and specifically this song which jdilla worked on kicks a lot of mfdooms shit out the window too.
Deffo. I'd check out ATCQ's album 'The Love Movement', which was fully produced by Dilla. Amazing album.

Another one to check out is Slum Village, where I think he really shines:

Best sample flip of all time, IMO. Vid on how he flipped it:
 
  • Informative
Reactions: PunkinMan
Metal didn’t start becoming actually good until Metalcore came along. Fight me.
Metal is overrated. Yes sometimes I want music that makes me want to smash my head into a brick wall. But I also like being able to make out the lyrics without having to read them later.
Metalheads are cringe and smell like BO.
 
Bro, Billie has been old news for 3 years already. We are in the Olivia Rodrigo era now. But don't worry, this September we'll get another one.
I thought about this post and realized yes, we did get another one of these with Chappell Roan. Yet another boring, astroturfed thot that will be forgotten soon.
 
how many pages into this thread do i have to go before all of the "i know it's super unpopular, but the beatles and led zeppelin are overrated! i know how unpopular it is, but i don't like country! what's with all the nickelback hate??" losers have killed themselves because The Axis of Awesome showed them I-V-vi-IV and now they think all music fucking sucks?

if i put "babe i'm gonna leave you" and "eleanor rigby" on any of these people's playlists, those songs would be the only reason to listen to said playlists

"give it away" is RHCP's worst popular song (a lot of their funky early stuff sucks more but isn't popular)

you don't get to say songs are overplayed if you still enjoy metallica's "one", "enter sandman", or "seek and destroy"

smino is criminally underrated and genuinely deserves to go down as a goat - unique flows, sick production from monte booker, creative lyrics, and a very flexible voice combined with the southern rnb influence creates an incredibly lush soundscape with ideas pulled from every page in the book

every tyler album other than CMIYGL is mid and chromakopia fucking blows. "juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudge judy" sentences you to either 5 years of listening to this fag rhyming "pablo" with "waifu", or death. up to you.

"i got friends in low places" is the best karaoke song by a landslide
 
Bro, Billie has been old news for 3 years already. We are in the Olivia Rodrigo era now. But don't worry, this September we'll get another one.


I was listening to some Screaming Trees and thinking about Chris Cornell's interview where he talked about how the term "grunge" was invented by the media to sell records and had nothing to do with the scene or how the artists viewed themselves.

There were so many unique vocalists and musicians in that era that got lumped together because they looked similar and came from Washington or just happened to wear baggy jeans.

Then you've got the people who will say they hate grunge based solely on the fact that they don't like Nirvana or can't stand to hear Jeremy on the radio one more time. There's tons of other bands from that era that weren't the big four that got the massive radio play. So many hair metal spergs hate grunge because Nirvana took over MTV for a few years. Come on, you had a good decade's worth of unchallenged reign. The scene was not going to last forever.

Just stop sperging about grunge. If it hadn't been that then some other scene would have upended the hair metal throne. It was full of soundalikes by that point anyway. And hair metal branding also hurt some bands the same way grunge did. Once the media gets a hold of the trend they try to rip the heart out of it and replace it with greed.
 
Can’t think of another place to put this.


IMG_5705.jpeg

Will probably look more into the lawsuit after I get home from work.
 
  • Lunacy
Reactions: Lil Miku
Kendrick Lamar is a faggot, nigga really thinks he's the music version of Martin Luther King, his new album is probably the worst one he's ever released and he fell off after maad city. After DAMN released people would just dick ride his shit nonstop. Going after drake felt like a PR stunt as well. Not to mention he gated the shittest album he's made originally because Trump won then released it anyways and it was just awful like Jesus christ.
 
Grimes made good music when she was still doing coke. Maybe it's that I followed her tumblr way back in 2012 so I knew the lore but her inspirations:
  • 80's pop in Vowels = Space and Time, Devon, м е с с е н г е р, and Vanessa
  • Katajjaq (inuit throat singing) on Omega (possibly Swan Song and My Sister Says The Saddest Things, theorized by me that a lot of it is present in Halfaxa with the "back and forth" nature of the vocals which is the entire point of katajjaq)
  • Medieval/folk east asian in most of Geidi Primes but namely Sardaukar Levenbrech
  • European medieval/folk in Favriel and Stoned Henge
  • Choir notably in Symphonia IX, Skin, and Heartbeats but choral elements are present in most of Halfaxa
Along with the general dream pop of things like Crystal Ball, Sagrad Прекрасный, Nightmusic (d'Eon cooked on this one), and acoustic elements in my favorites like River and Know The Way led to some very unique music that no one else has been able to replicate. I have listened to it endlessly for over a decade because I never get bored and find something new every time. I think she's extremely talented but has unfortunately opted for the easier route of hyperpop. Art Angels is homogeneous garbage and I can't even remember the name of the album after it because every album before those is seared into my brain. Her early music is a treat for anyone who likes experimental dream pop and there's a lot of it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: RomanianSchizo
Country and rap are by far the worst musical genres ( that are enjoyed by more than a handful of niche musicspergs) because they are the most commodified and leased artistic genres today. The line between pop country and rap is so blurred because everything about those two genres is farcieral and has been for over 20 years. There is a reason why people like ice cube and iced tea transitioned into acting, because they were playing characters as hardcore gangster rappers. An excellent example of this as well is Tupac, you can find very old footage of him in the early '80s talking about how much he loved doing like Shakespearean acting and stuff and how he was awkward around women, and then some Jew offered him the opportunity to play this hardcore gangster rap character and then he's talking about b****** and swearing excessively and stuff. There's also video footage of 50 cent offering to like review people's gangster rap characters and talking about how much of it is a character.

On the country music side of things Garth Brooks is one of the best-selling musicians ever, and he ruined his career trying to make a alt rock alternative character that was supposed to be used in a comedy movie or something and then the movie didn't get made but the music did and nobody liked it. To the point that the best-selling musician ever put out like an anthology collection a couple years back and nobody wanted it, I have a distinct memory of pallets of the stuff sitting in One of those stores that buys Amazon return products and resells it at a discount, and they couldn't get rid of it for months in the deep south.

Other similarities between the two genres is that they both arguably grew out of traditional ethnic folk music and the delineation between the folk music and the genre is its commodification. Both genres are insanely materialistic, most songs consist of listing things the singer allegedly owns, their women related foibles, and or braggadocious performative bravado, see Jason aldean's hit song try that in a small town.
 
Back