UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot outside Hilton hotel in Midtown in targeted attack: cops - Just Part and Parcel of visiting a Big City

blue gopher snakes said:
I lost a close member of my family last week. She had cancer. A few months ago, she was in the hospital for chemotherapy when her health insurance suddenly refused to pay anything more. She was literally evicted from the hospital on the orders of the insurance company because some tin-badge-having motherfucker decided that she was going to die anyway and further intervention was a waste of money. It was especially devastating because they had initially approved the chemo only to play taksie-backsies once it had already begun. The blow to her morale was significant.

She died horribly, thanks for asking.

I can 100% believe a grieving husband or father would take out a hit on the man he considers responsible for the death of his wife or child.
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If so, it's notable to see someone not just murder a bunch of technically innocent desk jockey corporate retards Columbine style, and actually aim for the head of the hydra for once. That's something that the establishment is terrified of

Corporate leaders are the ultimate prostitute scum, rest in piss parasite. I'm seeing people from the left and right equally celebrating this. Only establishment dick riders are distraught
 
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My thoughts and prayers are still waiting for pre-authorization from United Healthcare. Wherever he is, I hope he's looking up at all of us.

I wonder if the ER doctor working on him had to wait for the authorization to clear before treating for that GSW?

Oh, well. No big loss.
Cardinal Cardinal said:
Did this ceo do something particularly heinous or is everyone just celebrating his death because the other cool kids are?
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Oh, besides denying HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of people care, because this dickhole needed to please shareholders and fatten his wallet. CEO's make policies on what can be authorized and what cannot - more denials=more money in his pocket.
 
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Cardinal Cardinal said:
Did this ceo do something particularly heinous or is everyone just celebrating his death because the other cool kids are?
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They're celebrating because there isn't a person in this country who has never, at some point, known someone who paid for their insurance for years (perhaps decades) and was denied a claim they qualified for. This is how insurance companies work. It's an open secret. They want you to pay for something you expect to never use, then when you need it they'll reel out the Mr. Burns esque legal team to deny you because of some vague clause in a one-thousand page document. They want you to pay and receive nothing. A lot of money is spent lobbying the government to ensure that happens, forever.
 
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LaxerBRO said:
The US healthcare system is one where your coverage is determined largely by your skill + your employer.

Work a nice enough job or have enough raw talent and your care is better than nearly all socialized models. If you don't, you get something close to a public Eastern European healthcare service. If you are destitute, you get covered by the state.
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Not always. I have a relative with a McJob who will clear less than $10k this year and Medicaid kicked him off the roster despite not making enough to cover Obamacare's monthly premiums or deductible, much less meds. The system is designed to keep one in poverty.
 
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As long as it's not the real Brian Thompson, I don't give a shit.
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JosephStalin said:
It's been said that the American health care system is broken. If the American health care system was truly broken I likely wouldn't be here typing this.
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Just because it worked out for you doesn't mean a lot of people aren't completely fucked. It's broken in many many ways. Everyone involved in the healthcare industry is scamming eachother

  • The boards, schools and regulators scam incoming doctors and patients with insane fees and regulations.
  • The pharma companies scam hospitals with insanely marked up prices for medication and supplies.
  • The hospitals in turn scam their patients and the insurance
  • In response the insurance scams everyone.
Don't have a lot of money but still pay for the best policy your company provides. Maybe it'll pay half an emergency visit at best. Can't afford the other half, you either end up paying it off for years or take a giant hit to your credit score and maybe get sued if it's enough to justify that.

Disagree with the quality of your treatment, pricing, or what they did. You can try begging the hospital to drop the bill which they won't. Your other option is to complain to the board who won't do shit or get a lawyer who you can't afford.

It's totally fucked if you look at the prices the hospitals pay for the most basic supplies it's fucking insane. Everyone in healthcare is a scammer.
 
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Cardinal Cardinal said:
Did this ceo do something particularly heinous or is everyone just celebrating his death because the other cool kids are?
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United healthcare denial rates have tripled over the past 5 years, and they now deny claims at 2x the industry average.

Do with that information what you will.
 
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JosephStalin said:
At times over the years believe UHC has managed one of the two national Tricare contracts, West and East, believe they managed ours in the West for a few years. This may not be common knowledge but companies compete with the military to manage these contracts, so there must be a lot of money in it for the companies. We've been pretty well taken care of over the last 25 years or so, no complaints.

It's been said that the American health care system is broken. If the American health care system was truly broken I likely wouldn't be here typing this. The system has its' problems but it works. Wouldn't want to get my medical care anywhere else, and this is from someone who has been through a good deal of major-league medical shit over the past 15 years.
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You get (nominally) better healthcare if you’re willing to risk your life for Israel for a few years.

Total corpo death. Except for the ones I hold stock in.
 
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Beverly Sutphin said:
My thoughts and prayers are still waiting for pre-authorization from United Healthcare. Wherever he is, I hope he's looking up at all of us.

I wonder if the ER doctor working on him had to wait for the authorization to clear before treating for that GSW?

Oh, well. No big loss.

Oh, besides denying HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of people care, because this dickhole needed to please shareholders and fatten his wallet. CEO's make policies on what can be authorized and what cannot - more denials=more money in his pocket.
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Oh! :stress:
 
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JosephStalin said:
At times over the years believe UHC has managed one of the two national Tricare contracts, West and East, believe they managed ours in the West for a few years. This may not be common knowledge but companies compete with the military to manage these contracts, so there must be a lot of money in it for the companies. We've been pretty well taken care of over the last 25 years or so, no complaints.

It's been said that the American health care system is broken. If the American health care system was truly broken I likely wouldn't be here typing this. The system has its' problems but it works. Wouldn't want to get my medical care anywhere else, and this is from someone who has been through a good deal of major-league medical shit over the past 15 years.
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You’re a retired glowie who LARPs helicopter rides and lives in the past, you are not the average American citizen. You literally worked for the State.
 
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As far as I know hitmen don't usually bring their own guns to a job. They get them not long before they carry out the hit so it's not too far fetched that his weapon might have had problems. I've watched all the Sopranos so I think I'm more than qualified to talk about this.
 
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COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST said:
They're celebrating because there isn't a person in this country who has never, at some point, known someone who paid for their insurance for years (perhaps decades) and was denied a claim they qualified for. This is how insurance companies work. It's an open secret. They want you to pay for something you expect to never use, then when you need it they'll reel out the Mr. Burns esque legal team to deny you because of some vague clause in a one-thousand page document. They want you to pay and receive nothing. A lot of money is spent lobbying the government to ensure that happens, forever.
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I think you need to spell it out a bit clearer here: Health insurance is not paying for healthcare - it is the company providing a financial instrument which is basically a gamble/odds on your health.
They are literally betting on people's lives and deaths.

Early forms of insurance involved basically gambling that ships and trading caravans would make journeys successfully.
 
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