Plagued Lolicon/Shotacon Defense Force - The people who jerk off to cartoon children and won't ever shut up about it

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

A 20 year old roommate made me watch ten episodes of this before I had to just give up and tell him it was probably the worst show I'd ever seen. It was boring and I felt pretty uncomfortable about the depiction of the youngest girls. Like it seems like they are sexualized and I refused to go further. Then he tries to make me watch something else called "great teacher (something)" and it was about a teacher trying to get highschool girls!!! I didn't make it past halfway into the first episode and I said to him "what is this pedophile shit!?" That nigga is training to become a teacher.

I feel like a retard not putting it together, but getting to know this topic now for a couple weeks has me actually worried for him.

Your buddy is a pedophile and will 100% offend against his students.

 

[Maeis]

Your buddy is a pedophile and will 100% offend against his students.

Higurashi is too far? That shit is completely tame compared to even socially acceptable animes I can think of.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

defending their drug

They couldn’t keep their addiction to themselves.

Can someone explain to me this narrative that pedophiles are hapless addicts and not just intrinsically motivated monsters? Because they are intrinsically motivated monsters. These people didn't get "hooked" on lolicon, they're just sick and twisted and sought it out purposefully. If anything, it's just a surrogate for the real thing to avoid law enforcement, and if they didn't have it they'd just clip bathing suit pictures from clothing catalogues instead. I really just don't understand why people have this bizarre Bundy-esque belief.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

Higurashi is too far? That shit is completely tame compared to even socially acceptable animes I can think of.

Weren't you the same guy who admited to, on the farms of all places, having done ERPs on Discord when you were underage? I don't think that your list of socially acceptable animes is very valuable

 

[WelperHelper99]

Can someone explain to me this narrative that pedophiles are hapless addicts and not just intrinsically motivated monsters? Because they are intrinsically motivated monsters. These people didn't get "hooked" on lolicon, they're just sick and twisted and sought it out purposefully. If anything, it's just a surrogate for the real thing to avoid law enforcement, and if they didn't have it they'd just clip bathing suit pictures from clothing catalogues instead. I really just don't understand why people have this bizarre Bundy-esque belief.

It's because they treat it like a addiction, a drug. It's how rabidly they defend it that there is no other comparison really. They are addicted to these pictures like its fucking meth. It doesn't take away culpability. They can choose to stop but don't. It would be as simple as turning off the screen for most of them. They don't though. Because they enjoy it.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I don't think that your list of socially acceptable animes is very valuable

Whatever list it is he had in mind, I can confirm Higurashi really is the least of anyone's worries about modern anime.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Chibi: https://preservetube.com/watch?v=flMuIv27jqs
Asmongold: https://preservetube.com/watch?v=V5GYOxYKvJ8

The salt is real. Now full principled disclaimer. FUCK DEBANKING. If you're a Kiwi Farmer, this is a automatic opinion. At the same time... I fucking hate that Chibi is getting so much air time to turn loli into all of anime. Because that is what the censorship is about at the end of the day. And I hate Asmongold is boosting the fuck out of him.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

They don't though. Because they enjoy it.

Then it's not an addiction. An addiction is something you can't stop doing despite not wanting it, it's compelled. A drug like meth gets you hooked by altering your brain chemistry after you inhale it. Lolicon is not a foreign substance being injected into the body, it's a sexually provocative simulated depiction of a child, one which elicits arousal only a particular kind of person.

When you call pedophilia an addiction, you're implying the pedophile is in some way intrinsically innocent and make the implied argument of "if only this person were never exposed to it they'd still be normal." No, they were never normal and they're intrinsically evil. They're attracted to children because adults don't interest them and they don't feel guilty about it either.

A normal person can't be conditioned to become a pedophile any more than a gay person can be conditioned to become straight. Pedophiles who are caught reoffend 100% of the time even in cases where they've been chemically or physically castrated, meaning their condition can't be altered through physical change or environmental changes like solitary confinement, they can't be fixed with therapy nor can they be redeemed or rehabilitated. A drug addict can be because the addict's affliction is caused by an external substance acting on an internal nervous system.

To continue with this addiction narrative is to fundamentally misunderstand the enemy and the enemy cannot be defeated if the enemy is not understood because then you can't predict the enemy's behaviors.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Then it's not an addiction. An addiction is something you can't stop doing despite not wanting it, it's compelled. A drug like meth gets you hooked by altering your brain chemistry after you inhale it. Lolicon is not a foreign substance being injected into the body, it's a sexually provocative simulated depiction of a child, one which elicits arousal only a particular kind of person.

Porn alters brain chemistry. That is a fact. Lolicon as such is as much of a addictive substance as meth.

When you call pedophilia an addiction, you're implying the pedophile is in some way intrinsically innocent and make the implied argument of "if only this person were never exposed to it they'd still be normal." No, they were never normal and they're intrinsically evil. They're attracted to children because adults don't interest them and they don't feel guilty about it either.

I'm not really. The consumption of the lolicon content is an addiction. They horde the stuff by the gigabytes. They spread it on every site they are on. Classic junkie behavior. And like junkies, they are complete fucking scum.

A normal person can't be conditioned to become a pedophile any more than a gay person can be conditioned to become straight. Pedophiles who are caught reoffend 100% of the time even in cases where they've been chemically or physically castrated, meaning their condition can't be altered through physical change or environmental changes like solitary confinement, they can't be fixed with therapy nor can they be redeemed or rehabilitated. A drug addict can be because the addict's affliction is caused by an external substance acting on an internal nervous system.

Have you heard of early porn exposure? You certainly can condition someone into pedophilia. Its why places like Roblox are nightmares for children and churn out porn addicts. They expose the kids early on so they go on to watch harder and harder porn until nothing is left of their soul. Pedophiles are not just born but created. Disagree.

To continue with this addiction narrative is to fundamentally misunderstand the enemy and the enemy cannot be defeated if the enemy is not understood because then you can't predict the enemy's behaviors.

They exhibit addict behavior. Many are completely unsalvageable. Many are not if caught early on. Yes some are born evil. Some aren't. Some are twisted and mangled by online predators until they become evil. Its called grooming. Lolicon in that sense is a drug. Keep taking it, and it leads to worse things like actual CSAM. This doesn't take responsibility from the user however. At the end of the day, they're the one looking at those pictures.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Porn alters brain chemistry. That is a fact. Lolicon as such is as much of a addictive substance as meth.

You are a fucking moron, of course sexual arousal is an alteration of brain chemistry, but that's not the argument I made. I said that porn is not a foreign substance being injected into the body like heroin, I said that sexual preference is an intrinsically motivated characteristic. It's not an outside force acting on an internal mechanism, it's an internal mechanism responding to something it finds appealing. There is a nuanced but significant difference between an immutable sexual characteristic and a drug habit.

Many are completely unsalvageable.

No, they're all unsalvageable because they're intrinsically motivated child abusers.

Have you heard of early porn exposure? You certainly can condition someone into pedophilia.

No you can't, retard. That's not even the object of early porn exposure, the purpose behind it is to groom the victim to being accustomed to sexually promiscuous behaviors. Usually early porn exposure is followed by solicitation to send naked selfies to the groomer, which is then followed up with blackmail demands for more or to find more blackmail victims to abuse. An adolescent blackmail victim is not a pedophile you fucking dipshit faggot retard.

They expose the kids early on so they go on to watch harder and harder porn until nothing is left of their soul.

I stopped taking you seriously the instant you brought religion into this. You're incapable of viewing this clinically or realistically because it has to pass through a religious filter first, which removes it from its concrete reality because it has to conform to a preexisting worldview. This is about the third time I've had this suspicion confirmed, and it's nice to know it's not some earnest misunderstanding of the pedophile disease, but an anti-objectivity skewed perspective on the subject because the narrative believer can't wrap their head around the idea that a person can be genetically predisposed to evil.

 

[Fag Alert Major Fag Alert]

Chibi: https://preservetube.com/watch?v=flMuIv27jqs
Asmongold: https://preservetube.com/watch?v=V5GYOxYKvJ8

The salt is real. Now full principled disclaimer. FUCK DEBANKING. If you're a Kiwi Farmer, this is an automatic opinion. At the same time... I fucking hate that Chibi is getting so much air time to turn loli into all of anime. Because that is what the censorship is about at the end of the day. And I hate Asmongold is boosting the fuck out of him.

Chibi is a creep after all

 

[WelperHelper99]

I stopped taking you seriously the instant you brought religion into this. You're incapable of viewing this clinically or realistically because it has to pass through a religious filter first, which removes it from its concrete reality because it has to conform to a preexisting worldview. This is about the third time I've had this suspicion confirmed, and it's nice to know it's not some earnest misunderstanding of the pedophile disease, but an anti-objectivity skewed perspective on the subject because the narrative believer can't wrap their head around the idea that a person can be genetically predisposed to evil.

I'm just taking this one out. Yes people can be born evil. You can also be corrupted into it. You want to talk about narratives, what about yours? Your narrative is that they spontaneously pop out of the ground! Because you can't fathom that getting exposed to harmful chemicals/lolicon could corrupt someone and make them evil! I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you just have to look around this site to know what I'm saying is true! Dad beats his kids, kid grows up to beat his kids. It is rare the abuse cycle is broken. Same goes for lolicon. Its a disease, a plague that infects everything it touches. The weak willed crumble while the strong resist.

No you can't, retard. That's not even the object of early porn exposure, the purpose behind it is to groom the victim to being accustomed to sexually promiscuous behaviors. Usually early porn exposure is followed by solicitation to send naked selfies to the groomer, which is then followed up with blackmail demands for more or to find more blackmail victims to abuse. An adolescent blackmail victim is not a pedophile you fucking dipshit faggot retard.

What happens when the victim receives no support and no help for what they've gone through? The cycle continues. That is porn in a nutshell. A vicious cycle.

 

[des Pudels Kern]

I stopped taking you seriously the instant you brought religion into this.

Denying that things have essence is insane. Do numbers exist? Does pornography have real substance? The light hits your eyes, the message is decoded by your brain, and the intention is absorbed just as physically as a shot of heroin. Non physical objects are real, but this isn't the thread for that.

I also disagree that people can be born evil, or even gay. The world is just so awful that we can't disentangle nature and nurture because all of this "nurturing" we do is deeply sick. Amen

 

[Gravemind]

You guys are definitely starting to fall into the exact sort of thing I've repeatedly warned about.

It is highly inadvisable to get dogmatic over this matter. Not when there is actual hard evidence and a chain of reason out there to tangibly explain porn addiction and the object of things like porn exposure in early adolescence that doesn't rely solely (operative word there: solely) on an argument of spirituality.

And I believe there is a fundamental misunderstanding as to the purpose of "grooming" taking place here. Nobody "grooms" someone just to get them fapping to the same thing as they do. People get groomed so the groomer can fuck them, either later on in life or the first chance the person gets alone with their victim.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

The real question should be: What creates pedophiles? Are pedophiles born, or formed? If born, what's causing such a defect? If formed, how or what is breaking their brains to be such? There are just not enough studies done to uncover this because no one wants to study it any further due to how extremely ugly and uncomfortable it is. If any early warning signs were known in order to cull budding pedophiles before it got out of hand, that knowledge has been left to time. EPI is a huge problem plaguing society and we're starting to see the effects of it on a noticeable percentage of the population, which are the youth.

It's likely the clashing of different cultures has led to why it is lolicons are a thing, since it's very likely no one here is Japanese or has been in Japan pre-CP ban to be able to tell us exactly why it was pedophilia was just tolerated in the background for so long. For all we know it's a carryover from feudal Japan where young girls were known to be sold to brothels and people tended to die young, so the moment a girl became of age, she was married off and expected to have babies immediately. In Japan, it's still common to celebrate a girl's coming-of-age with every family member getting a serving of sekihan (red beans and rice), and the age of girls starting their first period is known to be getting younger worldwide. It's a serious problem that society can't seem to be keeping up with.

I suppose in attempt to try to protect our sanities, we want to believe that someone being into lolicon is them not wanting to actually touch real children because "2D > 3D", but EPI is making this harder to believe otherwise. We caught on to this with the cub porn long before lolicons got noticed in the States, so just how was it this branch of the same degenerate tree got ignored for so long?

 

[Maeis]

Weren't you the same guy who admited to, on the farms of all places, having done ERPs on Discord when you were underage? I don't think that your list of socially acceptable animes is very valuable

Not Discord, it was random chat sites and the like.

The real question should be: What creates pedophiles? Are pedophiles born, or formed? If born, what's causing such a defect? If formed, how or what is breaking their brains to be such? There are just not enough studies done to uncover this because no one wants to study it any further due to how extremely ugly and uncomfortable it is. If any early warning signs were known in order to cull budding pedophiles before it got out of hand, that knowledge has been left to time. EPI is a huge problem plaguing society and we're starting to see the effects of it on a noticeable percentage of the population, which are the youth.

It's likely the clashing of different cultures has led to why it is lolicons are a thing, since it's very likely no one here is Japanese or has been in Japan pre-CP ban to be able to tell us exactly why it was pedophilia was just tolerated in the background for so long. For all we know it's a carryover from feudal Japan where young girls were known to be sold to brothels and people tended to die young, so the moment a girl became of age, she was married off and expected to have babies immediately. In Japan, it's still common to celebrate a girl's coming-of-age with every family member getting a serving of sekihan (red beans and rice), and the age of girls starting their first period is known to be getting younger worldwide. It's a serious problem that society can't seem to be keeping up with.

I suppose in attempt to try to protect our sanities, we want to believe that someone being into lolicon is them not wanting to actually touch real children because "2D > 3D", but EPI is making this harder to believe otherwise. We caught on to this with the cub porn long before lolicons got noticed in the States, so just how was it this branch of the same degenerate tree got ignored for so long?

The real answer is that Japan did not have the puritanical influence that America had from the start. And no, of course I'm not trying to say CP is only for puritans to hate, I'm just saying that those kinds of built-in revulsions are based on that kind of stuff. America outsourced the "18 or older rule" to other countries where before their AoC was much younger (and good on them), but they didn't have that rule often enough before that.

 

[WelperHelper99]

And I believe there is a fundamental misunderstanding as to the purpose of "grooming" taking place here. Nobody "grooms" someone just to get them fapping to the same thing as they do. People get groomed so the groomer can fuck them, either later on in life or the first chance the person gets alone with their victim

If you have any other term for the constant posting and reposting of lolicon on every website, I'd like to hear it. That really is my point at the end of it.

The real question should be: What creates pedophiles? Are pedophiles born, or formed? If born, what's causing such a defect? If formed, how or what is breaking their brains to be such? There are just not enough studies done to uncover this because no one wants to study it any further due to how extremely ugly and uncomfortable it is. If any early warning signs were known in order to cull budding pedophiles before it got out of hand, that knowledge has been left to time. EPI is a huge problem plaguing society and we're starting to see the effects of it on a noticeable percentage of the population, which are the youth.

It's likely the clashing of different cultures has led to why it is lolicons are a thing, since it's very likely no one here is Japanese or has been in Japan pre-CP ban to be able to tell us exactly why it was pedophilia was just tolerated in the background for so long. For all we know it's a carryover from feudal Japan where young girls were known to be sold to brothels and people tended to die young, so the moment a girl became of age, she was married off and expected to have babies immediately. In Japan, it's still common to celebrate a girl's coming-of-age with every family member getting a serving of sekihan (red beans and rice), and the age of girls starting their first period is known to be getting younger worldwide. It's a serious problem that society can't seem to be keeping up with.

I suppose in attempt to try to protect our sanities, we want to believe that someone being into lolicon is them not wanting to actually touch real children because "2D > 3D", but EPI is making this harder to believe otherwise. We caught on to this with the cub porn long before lolicons got noticed in the States, so just how was it this branch of the same degenerate tree got ignored for so long?

I think it got ignored because it was just those funny Chinese cartoons you either pirated or had to specifically pay for specific cable channels to watch. Or you watched 4kids.

Now though? I can watch anime on my phone. On my smart TV. On my PC. That's how it got extremely popular; it became accessible. And now people are discovering the porn associated with it at earlier and earlier ages. It's fucking them up. Whatever societal STD Japan has is affecting kids that don't know how to deal with it. It is Cub porn all over again, but on a massive scale.

 

[Gravemind]

If you have any other term for the constant posting and reposting of lolicon on every website, I'd like to hear it. That really is my point at the end of it.

It's just posting porn, dude. It's not that deep. Only time you could really think of it as "grooming" is if you catch them in Discord servers and such with known underaged participants and they're notably using the posting of porn as a coercion tool for sexual favors.

In the past, the whole "lolicon porn addiction" thing has lead to more people trooning out or going the whole "femboy" route so they can fuck each other rather than child abuse, but it's still definitely a trend to be watched out for. Especially since I'm pretty sure the shitskins 100% would rape a kid if they got half the chance to.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Ay just posting porn, dude. It's not that deep. Only time you could really think of it as "grooming" is if you catch them in Discord servers and such with known underaged participants and they're notably using the posting of porn as a coercion tool for sexual favors.

Fair.

In the past, the whole "lolicon porn addiction" thing has lead to more people trooning out or going the whole "femboy" route so they can fuck each other rather than child abuse, but it's still definitely a trend to be watched out for. Especially since I'm pretty sure the shitskins 100% would rape a kid if they got half the chance to.

It's what happened to 8chan if I remember Josh's recounting. The lolicon, and later, CSAM spam devastated the site to the point Josh had to walk away from moderating it. You are right about the troon connection. There are a quite a few tranny cows with threads that are into lolicon

 

[Corn Flakes]

Talking about the possible origins of lolicon and what to do about them feels like going way beyond the scope of the thread, not the least because it's clear pedos get into it via multiple different paths. And it's not like a bunch of random anonymous spergs on the internet can do anything about it beyond name names and document the worst cases out there. It's pretty much impossible to address any of the possible sources of the problem you guys suggested so far in order to prevent it from happening, at least not without the kind of government interference on society that not even the Soviets at the peak of their oppression managed to implement. All we can feasibly do is add dealing with these people to the long list of maintenance tasks required of a society if it is to remain stable and moral.

It really shouldn't be controversial so say that "protecting the weak and the defenseless from predators" is one of these tasks, but apparently it is too much to ask from some people.