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The Horror in Room 1046 -- one of the most enigmatic and disturbing unsolved murders I've ever read about.
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I have a decent theory on this one, makes sense in my mind atleast but here goes. About 175 days before this there was a fatal hit on Kansas City mob boss "Brother" John Lazia where unknown hit team swiss cheesed him with tommy guns and sawed-offs, his good friend and the next boss Charles "the Whop" Carrollo was there on the scene as his driver and escorted Lazia's wife to safety as was his last wish to Carrollo.The Horror in Room 1046 -- one of the most enigmatic and disturbing unsolved murders I've ever read about.
Update. She's gone Ethan Ralpha-ways. Go gitter, Ethan!Wait, can we please talk about Hannah Kobayashi? She went missing and her dad flew out and searched for almost exactly 2 weeks before committing suicide at an LA airport (in the parking lot.) She's still missing and new info is slowly seeping into the newscycle.
We're not even sure yet if she's dead, and the dad gives up (and literally seppukus) after 2 weeks? That really tickles my fuckery radar. What's going on?
She could have at least told her family that she is going to Mexico. Now that her father offed himself, she will never be able to go back because she will be blamed by the family.Update. She's gone Ethan Ralpha-ways. Go gitter, Ethan!
But yeah, guess it's as simple as that. Still wild about the Dad.
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I don't think we have enough information about whatever was going on between her and her parents to know who was the bigger arsehole yet.She could have at least told her family that she is going to Mexico. Now that her father offed himself, she will never be able to go back because she will be blamed by the family.
Its possible but unlikely since he really didn't have any accurate location, area of search would have been ridiculous. He chose a military parachute that had no possibility of steering and it was windy as fuck that night. I get massive kamikaze vibes based on everything we know. One thing i dont see talked about is that he might have had atleast long johns under his suit but is that really enough all things considered? Probably not.![]()
He was very poorly prepared for the terrain and harsh november weather in NW pacific area, wearing only a raincoat over his business suit. 10 thousand feet jump in strong winds straight into the forest, even with experience will easily lead to death.
I wonder if he had some kind of early locating device or something in his suitcase, with people on the ground waiting for him and in 1971 average joe could have easily thought machine like that was a bomb.
My favorite theory is that he fought to death with bigfoot after landing lol.
I am not really well versed into the whole incident, but given how retarded mysterious D. B. Cooper was and how he obviously did some planning is it possible he had a accomplice on the ground ready to extract him once he landed? It sounds like a bit of a long shot but it's possible no? He jumps with no real equipament or special hardware to survive the night which adds to the whole insanity of his heist but if he knows where he will be jumping exactly he could aim for a specific area of a square mile or two where he has someone ready to get him with some coffee and a car.
The flaw is the bills (outside those that were found in the river in Washington State) have never turned up (so far as we have been told) and both the FBI and Treasury have been actively looking for them. You turn in a bill for destruction and the Serial Number gets scanned. Either he augered in or didn't want the money at all because it's never been spent, anywhere.A new hypothesis a few years ago stated that he didn't jump when the flight crew thought he did--some random Green Beret confirmed that jumping out of the back of the plane is a great way to hit the plane's tail, which is why parachuters always roll out of a plane. Cooper therefore pretended to jump, tossed a couple of wads of cash out of the plane, then waited.
Once he felt the plane begin to descend, he exited the plane, landing easily in the flats of Nevada. Tucked the 'chute under some shrub or buried it. Looked for the brightest lights on the horizon--Vegas--and started walking. Walked into Las Vegas wearing a suit and carrying a briefcase of cash, no one would have glanced at him twice. Had the excuse of winning big at the tables to cover any large cash purchases. Feds were all over the wrong state looking for him.
This is a good theory since nobody was there witnessing the actual jump, he told everyone to stay put in the cockpit where they felt the pressure drop and he did say fly to Mexico City AKA Ralphaland. He used some staircase for the jump so he definetly knew his business. Correct me if im wrong but US paratroopers usually start their practice in the desert?A new hypothesis a few years ago stated that he didn't jump when the flight crew thought he did--some random Green Beret confirmed that jumping out of the back of the plane is a great way to hit the plane's tail, which is why parachuters always roll out of a plane. Cooper therefore pretended to jump, tossed a couple of wads of cash out of the plane, then waited.
Once he felt the plane begin to descend, he exited the plane, landing easily in the flats of Nevada. Tucked the 'chute under some shrub or buried it. Looked for the brightest lights on the horizon--Vegas--and started walking. Walked into Las Vegas wearing a suit and carrying a briefcase of cash, no one would have glanced at him twice. Had the excuse of winning big at the tables to cover any large cash purchases. Feds were all over the wrong state looking for him.
This is the tricky part, but if they took those bills abroad they could have stayed there but how on earth none of it has trickled back to the states. Not even a single 20 dollar bill. I wonder if it was even at the time possible to launder money that hot? But if there ever was a place for it its 1970s Las Vegas.The flaw is the bills (outside those that were found in the river in Washington State) have never turned up (so far as we have been told) and both the FBI and Treasury have been actively looking for them. You turn in a bill for destruction and the Serial Number gets scanned. Either he augered in or didn't want the money at all because it's never been spent, anywhere.
Or maybe he was never in it for the money, just to fuck with people's heads, and he buried the briefcase in the desert somewhere, jerking off to the thought of it every night.This is the tricky part, but if they took those bills abroad they could have stayed there but how on earth none of it has trickled back to the states. Not even a single 20 dollar bill. I wonder if it was even at the time possible to launder money that hot? But if there ever was a place for it its 1970s Las Vegas.
Would be glorious if he did it just for bragging rights and used those bills for nice little campfire. McCoy Jr did brag about it to his friend saying airjacking is easy to pull off, which is clearly was if he did it twice. Men can do anything with gigantic balls and military experience.Or maybe he was never in it for the money, just to fuck with people's heads, and he buried the briefcase in the desert somewhere, jerking off to the thought of it every night.
Never underestimate the lengths some individuals will go to in order to feel like the smartest people in the room.
I'm not American, so pardon my retardation on this one. I'd never heard of the case until last week, where I promptly devoured the Wikipedia article and tons of other Reddit pages.The flaw is the bills (outside those that were found in the river in Washington State) have never turned up (so far as we have been told) and both the FBI and Treasury have been actively looking for them. You turn in a bill for destruction and the Serial Number gets scanned. Either he augered in or didn't want the money at all because it's never been spent, anywhere.
It's possible but unlikely. Banks will take out worn out bills and they'll be sent to the Federal Reserve to be destroyed. They've been looking for those bills for 50 years and have only come across the bills found in the river in Washington state. I don't know how it works with foreign banks but it's probably the same.Why would it necessarily be the case that none of the bills would have 'turned up?' Couldn't they have been spent in an inordinate number of times in backwaters and other places without ever entering a bank? How else would they get recorded? If he did to to Mexico, surely it's possible none of these bills spent Spic-side never made it back to the States?
Worn or damaged bills are taken out of circulation by Federal Reserve offices, who are sent the damaged bills from banks. Not a single one of the 10,000 $20 bills Cooper got ever turned up to any Federal Reserve office in this fashion. That's what they mean by "no bills were ever spent."I'm not American, so pardon my retardation on this one. I'd never heard of the case until last week, where I promptly devoured the Wikipedia article and tons of other Reddit pages.
Why would it necessarily be the case that none of the bills would have 'turned up?' Couldn't they have been spent in an inordinate number of times in backwaters and other places without ever entering a bank? How else would they get recorded? If he did to to Mexico, surely it's possible none of these bills spent Spic-side never made it back to the States?
I'm not sure I follow, or I'm missing something, when authorities say they're SURE the bills have never been spent anywhere, ever. Couldn't this guy have just tucked them under his mattress? Traded them wholesale for another asset?
It's entirely possible the whole lot of the bills ended up in a mattress or are still overseas, but it's not likely that in 50 years none of the bills have have shown up. Every major city in the world does business with the US Federal Reserve in one form or another and all those spent bills that trade hands will only do so for about 18 months before they are withdrawn from circulation and replaced. Even in the most remote Assbackwardsastan, the US dollar is the one currency that gets spent and traded without question and you can walk into just about any bank anywhere and trade in a mangled US bill for a crisp new one and the old one gets sent back to America to be replaced when it it too worn out to be usable. Every bill in every denomination has a unique SN and they all get scanned prior to destruction and have for decades and yet none of them (out side of the 5700 dollars or so found in WA state) have ever been seen again. It makes no sense unless he never carried them out of the woods at all. Which means either he didn't want to carry them out or he never left the woods or the government knew ages ago he made it out with the cash and lied to us about the whole thing.I'm not American, so pardon my retardation on this one. I'd never heard of the case until last week, where I promptly devoured the Wikipedia article and tons of other Reddit pages.
Why would it necessarily be the case that none of the bills would have 'turned up?' Couldn't they have been spent in an inordinate number of times in backwaters and other places without ever entering a bank? How else would they get recorded? If he did to to Mexico, surely it's possible none of these bills spent Spic-side never made it back to the States?
I'm not sure I follow, or I'm missing something, when authorities say they're SURE the bills have never been spent anywhere, ever. Couldn't this guy have just tucked them under his mattress? Traded them wholesale for another asset?
It generally requires them actually to have identified the money first and have a list of serial numbers. That's what happens when the feds pay a ransom. You'll never get to use that money.A handful of bills getting lost in the wash or a fire or whatever so there would be no trace? Sure, it happens. But a duffle bag of cash just vanishes and he walked out just fine? Not unless destroying the money was a deliberate act.
I don't think we have enough information about whatever was going on between her and her parents to know who was the bigger arsehole yet.
He could even have just been such a square that finding out his daughter was a hipster witch planning to elope with some broke loser in Mexico was too embarassing.I want to know why dad an hero'd. It's possible that he believed she was dead or had some mental health issues that were pushed over the edge because Hannah was missing. But it's also possible he didn't want to face the fallout from something bad he did.
There are plenty of good, interesting documentaries on the case, but if you want to see a really fucked up one, look up "Casting Jonbenet".I was way too young when it first happened to really know of it when it happened.
But this JonBenet Ramsey thing is fucking insane.