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Which is Better

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Looks like Rami Malek.
The title says Snow White. If ever there were a "you had one job" complaint to be made, this is it.
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The reason live action remakes exist is for a few reasons:

- Nostalgia: Gets older people to "relive" their childhood and introduce it to kids of their own. It also can be an attempt at instilling nostalgia into younger people to milk them off the IP

- IP Power: Kind of overlaps with the first point, but it already has a built-in audience and if its a household name, could get people to see since newer IPs are risky

- Anti-Animation Sentiment: This is a kind of specific point but it definitely appeals to normies who dismiss animation as a children's medium and gives the appearance of this being more "adult" than the original animation.

You know what these live action remakes remind me of? They're the celluloid equivalent of when they brought out those alternative Harry Potter covers for adults who felt insecure reading a children's book in public.

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It's a weird way of reassuring the guilty adult audience of a property for children that it is OK that you like this, and it doesn't make you weird or immature or suggest any sort of arrested development on your part.
 
They had a continuous build up of technology and graphics getting better, so now they don’t want to watch a cartoon when they know Hollywood is capable of turning their childhood comics and cartoons real.
I was watching clips from Aladdin comparing live action and animation, and I noticed how intensely limited and generic the live action feels compared to the original, but it also gets a lot wrong and the millennial writing ruins bits of character exposition. In "friend like me" A great shot for this is when the genie says "Mr Aladdin sir! What will your pleasure be?" In the original, he's shown to be this massive magical entity solely dedicated to helping Aladdin, who he already knows the name of. In the newer version for a cheap attempt at a joke Will Smith doesn't even know Aladdin's name, he just feels like Will Smith in blue.

Doug "The Nostalgia Critic" Walker, really made a good, although admittedly quite obvious, point that the live action remakes are limited by the fact they're not 2D animated. The characters all feel very toned down understandably, but the movie isn't written for that, so it struggles. Just like with the CGI animated Lion King, they've gone forward in realism but backwards in animation like Basic Blond Boy was saying.

What strikes me in particular is how little Disney seems to care, it's quite telling. This is the Disney first animated feature film being remade and it feels like they don't care, they seem to be giving it the same treatment as the rest. Half-ass it, throw out some trailers, and cram an ethnic in there to deflect any criticism into racism, and get black people on Twitter to call people racist for not liking it. Lilo and Stitch is getting more love it seems, even that feels the same way with toned down action and execution. There really seems to be a competency crisis in animation, and Disney.
 
They're simply beautiful cartoons, made with incredible vision and attention to detail. Disney could simply have remastered them, maybe done some recordings with a new cast of voice actors and re-release it into the cinema. Make it a package for a few of the shorter ones, I think people would pay to see that, and it would be fairly cheap.
They used to rerelease movies from their back catalog on a regular basis, I think every ten years. Of course, this was back in the days before home video, so it was effectively the only way to see classic Disney movies for most people, barring a TV broadcast. Once home video took off, not to mention more cable channels rerunning the classics, theatrical rereleases came to an end, only to be replaced with the Disney Vault keeping home video copies artificially scarce.

Nowadays, outside of a big anniversary for a particularly popular film, you pretty much never see them rerelease anything, and even then it might be somewhat limited. It wouldn't surprise me if they deliberately avoid rereleases in order to make their shitty remakes look good by not having an objectively better option fresh in the public's memory. Then again, you can already watch all the old movies on Disney+, though it also wouldn't surprise me if they push their remakes more there as well.
 
It wouldn't surprise me if they deliberately avoid rereleases in order to make their shitty remakes look good by not having an objectively better option fresh in the public's memory.
That's probably half-true depending on the film. It's a bit more insidious, because these remakes rely on the memory of the original (incorporating the well known songs into a full soundtrack), but they change things in various subtle ways or outright subvert them, usually to compensate for some perceive 'outdated' sensibility. They literally can't help it, and proximity to the original highlights that even more, because the changes become laughably predictable. What's instructive about Rachel Zeigler is she is really only stating aloud, just with rare obnoxiousness, what many of the executives in the charge of these remakes (and soft reboots in the case of their subsidiaries) do actually believe - they're 'redressing the past' or 'updating for the modern audience', and they think they're doing the world a service. The fear is these morally superior DEI heavy remakes were made to replace the classics, not just as open-ended and lucrative IPs, but as rewriting history - I'm sure you know, Disney has historical precedence in this habit.

Whether that was the plan or not, the ideology these people cultivate is self-defeating, because it means they are intellectually incapable of understanding why the originals were so beloved in the first place, and they sometimes seem to resent them existing. I've personally begun to believe that the emphasis on glossy spectacle and escalation is because they genuinely believe most people who like the originals are stupid and need flashy lights to pay attention. And of course the irony is the people who do like these remakes because of the new morality and flashy visuals forget it the next day because they've now been trained to be superficial consoomers, and Disney gets confused as to where they go and why normal people call it slop.
 
Trailer for Snow White is here, it looks awful. Bad CG (especially when compared to live action Snow White movies from years ago now), and she just does not bring to mind Snow White at all, with her constant grimace face and being uglier than the evil queen by miles.
Oh no they gave her a heccin girl boss "I want" song.
 
No kidding. I thought it was my screen or the image was stretched. But nope, she has the face of a hammerhead shark.

It's very brave of Disney to show all sorts of deformities.
We're gonna see Brittany "Stinky" Venti as a disney princess before this is all over, aren't we?

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Yeah, not the best, kinda mean spirited but just an "ok" movie.
Many cartoons in the 2000s were mean spirited. Lilo & Stitch was cruel as fuck, even though plenty of people love it to bits. I think it had a lot to do with character designs and wonky CGI, implying that it was Disney’s first full-length three-dimensional flick. The gags were hilarious though and it would have probably been received way better with the current generation’s sense of humour.
 
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