Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[GoodWinSon]

But then Broly beats the ever living shit out of him because idk lol

Yeah but prime post Buu Saga Mr. Satan could then just frame perfect near-ftl wavedash neg-diff encircle Stalingrad technical leg drop super armor feat Toriyama Benjamin Netanyahu 4x4 punch him.

 

[Niggerphobe]

Would viv have the balls to have an African warlord in one of the shows

 

[Kid Named Rocket]

But then Broly beats the ever living shit out of him because idk lol

>KEKly
FLEE FROM THESE HALLOWED HALLS, CUR.

 

[I_Am_Not_Bruce_Willis]

But can they beat Goku?

But how many of them can do the Shun Goku Satsu?

 

[Rakdos92]

That Niffty comic brings up a good point for the second season. With Emily trapped in Hell, would Charlie have to keep her safe from the likes of Niffty (and other demons that want to "culturally enrich" Emily)?

If Viviz had her way, then no.

If we went with things as indicated by canon, then oh yes, absolutely. But that'd result in that naive little shit getting a reality check and we can't have that now, can we? The show is a leftard's ideology, built on lofty dreams and denial of human nature, and it only continues to work because any intrusion of reality is ignored and shut out.

 

[Grimoire Canthari]

I remember loving the HH pilot. And then I loved the HB one even more because of the smaller cast, focus on comedy and Brandon Rogers being a youtube funnyman. Haven't seen any HH episodes because in between when they came out plus the shitiffication of HB, I lost interest. Good thing I didn't paypig out for Verosika/Funny Bitch Reporter/Alastor merch when I was still a fan.

Also saw the roleswap of Adam being the advocate for sinner redemption back in the thread and now I wish that it was real.

Spoiler: Adam as Redeemer

After their fall, Adam and Eve are sentenced to live in hell and watch their children sin and suffer for eternity. They argue incessantly over whose fault it really was. Eventually, Eve leaves Adam over his percieved unwillingness to do something about it.

Adam copes by making a garden/farmhouse/nature preserve in hell where he gets to surround himself with memories of happier times (in the Garden of Eden, but a conspicuous lack of apples). But some mortally wounded sinner stumbles upon his replica garden, desperate for a place to hide from the Exterminator Angels. Adam reluctantly helps, grabbing and running away with the sinner while the Angels are wreaking havoc. They talk, the sinner says the exterminations have only been a recent thing while Adam is shocked. Also the sinner is a bit rough but ultimately likeable, lamenting that they wish they did things differently while on Earth. Adam (and the audience) have enough time with this sinner to get attached before the Exterminators corner them.

The Father of Man steps forward, shielding his child with his body while pleading with the Exterminators to spare the sinner. Is this truly God's justice? Why pursue one whose crimes are small compared to many others in hell? Especially since one who committed the first sin stands before them?

The Exterminators laugh and say the Original Sinners don't get to die so easily per divine will. They tear Adam from the sinner and brutally slaughter them before his eyes before ascending back into Heaven.

The memory of the potentially repentant sinner is burned into Adam's mind. From then on he vows to find a way to redeem his children, and maybe himself and Eve.

I think Eve's plans to change things would make for Season 2 fuel. I picture her as the "We can make the best of a bad situation but never get high on hopium" type to contrast with Adam's "We messed up but we can truly rise back up" mentality where she ends up doing some well meaning but sketchy shit against Hell/Heaven/whatever. Adam would still have to contend with demon douchebaggery, Heaven's implacibility and his own personal issues. Maybe at one point some Angel actually tries to kill him and he can't rely on Heaven's cruel mercy. I don't know. Why am I awake at this hour?

 

[InJailOutSoon]

When a character refuses to say anything specific to a situation, that's a textbook sign of reused lines. Literally nothing Millie said was related to the trial plot. Her lines were "Don't you ever do that shit again" and something about how today sucked. Both of which were probably from the last episode.

Well, I looked through every transcript episode Millie was in, and I didn't find any of the two lines in them.

But I did find something a bit interesting for the timeline that I didn't realize before. When I was looking back at Millie's flashback, she was talking about how fun that year was when Blitzø first hired her. So she worked with IMP for a year before they got the office that we see in the show. And they got that new office because Blitzø had just managed to steal the grimoire. He also mentions that this is a new ring their working in. Take of that what you will.

 

[ReceiveAndAsk]

Well, I looked through every transcript episode Millie was in, and I didn't find any of the two lines in them.

But I did find something a bit interesting for the timeline that I didn't realize before. When I was looking back at Millie's flashback, she was talking about how fun that year was when Blitzø first hired her. So she worked with IMP for a year before they got the office that we see in the show. And they got that new office because Blitzø had just managed to steal the grimoire. He also mentions that this is a new ring their working in. Take of that what you will.

VA's and actors often record material that gets cut until release. Makes sense to scour the unused material for fitting lines.

Also, makes no logical sense there to be zero sexual attraction between Blitzo and Millie. Instead, we get this gay melodrama.

 

[Gondolindrim]

VA's and actors often record material that gets cut until release. Makes sense to scour the unused material for fitting lines.

Also, makes no logical sense there to be zero sexual attraction between Blitzo and Millie. Instead, we get this gay melodrama.

At this point, I'd buy Millie and Blitzo being an item over Millie and Moxxie. Yeah they have a lot of cute moments together but from what we see of Moxxie I can't really see him settling down.

Hell, the idea of those two being married was always weird to me. They seem to still be in the dating phase

 

[ReceiveAndAsk]

At this point, I'd buy Millie and Blitzo being an item over Millie and Moxxie. Yeah they have a lot of cute moments together but from what we see of Moxxie I can't really see him settling down.

Hell, the idea of those two being married was always weird to me. They seem to still be in the dating phase

Blitz: Big go getter, not as skilled but appreciates good skills in people, just has a slight inferiority complex.
Millie: Extremely capable of handling close quarters combat, has her mind blown after Blitz shows he refuses to be a bitch for the Demon Lords.
Moxxie: Beta bitch

And Millie chooses the fag? Not only is this unrealistic, it's also unbelievable and completely immersion breaking. It goes against the very nature of everything.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

After their fall, Adam and Eve are sentenced to live in hell and watch their children sin and suffer for eternity. They argue incessantly over whose fault it really was. Eventually, Eve leaves Adam over his percieved unwillingness to do something about it.

Adam copes by making a garden/farmhouse/nature preserve in hell where he gets to surround himself with memories of happier times (in the Garden of Eden, but a conspicuous lack of apples). But some mortally wounded sinner stumbles upon his replica garden, desperate for a place to hide from the Exterminator Angels. Adam reluctantly helps, grabbing and running away with the sinner while the Angels are wreaking havoc. They talk, the sinner says the exterminations have only been a recent thing while Adam is shocked. Also the sinner is a bit rough but ultimately likeable, lamenting that they wish they did things differently while on Earth. Adam (and the audience) have enough time with this sinner to get attached before the Exterminators corner them.

The Father of Man steps forward, shielding his child with his body while pleading with the Exterminators to spare the sinner. Is this truly God's justice? Why pursue one whose crimes are small compared to many others in hell? Especially since one who committed the first sin stands before them?

The Exterminators laugh and say the Original Sinners don't get to die so easily per divine will. They tear Adam from the sinner and brutally slaughter them before his eyes before ascending back into Heaven.

The memory of the potentially repentant sinner is burned into Adam's mind. From then on he vows to find a way to redeem his children, and maybe himself and Eve.

I think Eve's plans to change things would make for Season 2 fuel. I picture her as the "We can make the best of a bad situation but never get high on hopium" type to contrast with Adam's "We messed up but we can truly rise back up" mentality where she ends up doing some well meaning but sketchy shit against Hell/Heaven/whatever. Adam would still have to contend with demon douchebaggery, Heaven's implacibility and his own personal issues. Maybe at one point some Angel actually tries to kill him and he can't rely on Heaven's cruel mercy. I don't know. Why am I awake at this hour?

Why do you do this to me, sir/miss? You make me wish this is what we got. But we would need a man or a serious woman (capital m or capital w, not a cuck or a crazy feminist tard or fujoshi) to write. This sounds like a interesting Bible fanfiction, and even Adam could see things like "Wow, look at Moses being a lawgiver to Israel, but no, Israel is then sinning at the period known as Judges!" And this motivates him further - while being respectful to the source material, at the same time Hell gets slowly technological as society does.

The episode where I think it would be most feels-based would be when Jesus Christ would spend three days, amongst the sinners. And Adam would finally have peace, maybe Eve would find her peace too. The spinoff, which would be set on present day, could also work, with Jesus Christ tasking Adam and Eve to do the work, and Lute - the one who killed the sinner in the Garden, to work alongside them, IDK?

 

[Clancee]

And Millie chooses the fag?

Wish we got an episode showing HOW they actually got married. All we know is they met on the job but that's all. Did she marry Moxie out of pity? Did she marry him because he wasn't like other imps? There are infinitely better things to explore than how the gay owl met Blitzo.

 

[GoodWinSon]

Hell, the idea of those two being married was always weird to me. They seem to still be in the dating phase

And Millie chooses the fag? Not only is this unrealistic, it's also unbelievable and completely immersion breaking. It goes against the very nature of everything.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who sees this. I know a few married couples and noticed they all have a few similar attributes. Notably they
1. Make slight jabs and small talk
2. Don't agree on everything with the other
3. Favor each other's opinions over an outsiders (wives always ruin my fun)
4. Talk shop, (kids, house, job, etc.)
Moxxie and Millie don't really do anything substantial with each other. They are either "lovey-dovey" or Millie is bailing out Moxxie. Heck, Millie seems to favor the opinion of her boss over her husband's. Yet they also don't have any push and pull with each other, with the sole exception of Camp Fever, where they had a melodramatic fight over trying to impress children whilst crossdressing.

How riveting.

Moxxie is a weird character to me with or without Millie. He's depicted as the most reasonable and moral protagonist, yet he never pushes back against the absurdity of the other characters. What's the point of a passive straight man in a comedy?

Spoiler: Schizo Fanfiction

If Hellava Boss was the comedy it pitched itself on, then a good love interest for Blitz would be Verosika. She would be the drug abusing alcoholic Catwoman to Blitzos drug abusing alcoholic Batman. In one episode she could be a petty rival, in another an uneasy ally. She could also round out Luna by giving her not one but TWO terrible parental figures! Note this assessment ignores her characterization in Apology Tour, where she's mainly just a bitter prick.

 

[FK009]

Glad to see I'm not the only one who sees this. I know a few married couples and noticed they all have a few similar attributes. Notably they
1. Make slight jabs and small talk
2. Don't agree on everything with the other
3. Favor each other's opinions over an outsiders (wives always ruin my fun)
4. Talk shop, (kids, house, job, etc.)
Moxxie and Millie don't really do anything substantial with each other. They are either "lovey-dovey" or Millie is bailing out Moxxie. Heck, Millie seems to favor the opinion of her boss over her husband's. Yet they also don't have any push and pull with each other, with the sole exception of Camp Fever, where they had a melodramatic fight over trying to impress children whilst crossdressing.

How riveting.

Moxxie is a weird character to me with or without Millie. He's depicted as the most reasonable and moral protagonist, yet he never pushes back against the absurdity of the other characters. What's the point of a passive straight man in a comedy?

Spoiler: Schizo Fanfiction

If Hellava Boss was the comedy it pitched itself on, then a good love interest for Blitz would be Verosika. She would be the drug abusing alcoholic Catwoman to Blitzos drug abusing alcoholic Batman. In one episode she could be a petty rival, in another an uneasy ally. She could also round out Luna by giving her not one but TWO terrible parental figures! Note this assessment ignores her characterization in Apology Tour, where she's mainly just a bitter prick.

Reading through the points you make with married couples, it would be incredibly easy to have this work between Blitzo and Verosika, if they were the endgame. Fuck, as much as I detest Apology Tour and want to wipe it from my memory, (EDIT: I’m 50/50 that the show will retcon it, on its own anyway) I liked watching Blitzo and Verosika talk. I think we all can agree it was better than when Stolas was involved with either of them. The only things it has working against that ship is that it’s a straight relationship, Verosika is a female in a Viv production, and that fujos would make her evil for some reason and have her brains splattered the moment Blitzo chose her over Stolas, and I wish I was making that last one up.

 

[ssaneenah]

Wish we got an episode showing HOW they actually got married. All we know is they met on the job but that's all. Did she marry Moxie out of pity? Did she marry him because he wasn't like other imps? There are infinitely better things to explore than how the gay owl met Blitzo.

Pretty sure that idea is in the works - there can be a crummy wedding scene with like three random people present and Blitz will jump out of the mysteriously placed wedding cake when Moxxie is about to cut it, even though the episode will try to convince us that Blitz does not endorse their wedding or is not going to be there.

 

[ReceiveAndAsk]

Also, if any woman would see their husband crying over a paper shredder being jammed, that would be the end of the relationship. Women can forgive many things, but not acting like a child in moments of crisis. And it's played for laugh all the time, being Moxxie's main personality trait. Every time Millie says something along the lines of 'Don't worry baby *I* am always here to save *you*', how long does it take being a mommy to your husband to finally give him the boot?

If they were gonna go with this dynamic, why not go all in? Why not make Moxxie a complete simp who only exists to please his abusive wife's whims? That would be funny, and would be much more interesting and actually give Millie personality, than this show of Vivzie's complete lack of real world experience.

 

[InJailOutSoon]

Glad to see I'm not the only one who sees this. I know a few married couples and noticed they all have a few similar attributes. Notably they
1. Make slight jabs and small talk
2. Don't agree on everything with the other
3. Favor each other's opinions over an outsiders (wives always ruin my fun)
4. Talk shop, (kids, house, job, etc.)
Moxxie and Millie don't really do anything substantial with each other. They are either "lovey-dovey" or Millie is bailing out Moxxie. Heck, Millie seems to favor the opinion of her boss over her husband's. Yet they also don't have any push and pull with each other, with the sole exception of Camp Fever, where they had a melodramatic fight over trying to impress children whilst crossdressing.

You want to know where you can find that version of Moxxie and Millie where they seem like a married couple? The pilot. Literally, pretty much all those points you listed were in the pilot. There's some teasing, they didn't agree on everything with each other yet not in an argumentative manner, Moxxie actually talked back to Blitzø...okay the last point wasn't related to the couple, but you see where I'm going with this. They were a genuinely cute couple that worked off of each other.

This is still the best scene between them, and it's sad we don't really get that in the actual show.

 

[ReceiveAndAsk]

You want to know where you can find that version of Moxxie and Millie where they seem like a married couple? The pilot. Literally, pretty much all those points you listed were in the pilot. There's some teasing, they didn't agree on everything with each other yet not in an argumentative manner, Moxxie actually talked back to Blitzø...okay the last point wasn't related to the couple, but you see where I'm going with this. They were a genuinely cute couple that worked off of each other.View attachment 6718645
This is still the best scene between them, and it's sad we don't really get that in the actual show.

Not to mention how much better the old Millie VA is at the role. They should've replaced Loona, not Millie's voice.

 

[The tired cat]

Moxxie is a weird character to me with or without Millie. He's depicted as the most reasonable and moral protagonist, yet he never pushes back against the absurdity of the other characters. What's the point of a passive straight man in a comedy?

Looking at Moxxie's earlier design, it kinda seems that aside from being the straightman, he was kinda gonna be the more professional and maybe slightly detached type? Like, sort off "Let's do our contract and not goof around" which would play off Blitzo's wild and chaotic behavior.

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

Just saw this on tumblr. God, we really were robbed. Slight mockumentary format? Blitz wanting to relentlessly hunt down the one that got away? Why were we given a soap opera with more singing and crying than Steven Universe?!
(Don’t answer that, I know why.)