UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot outside Hilton hotel in Midtown in targeted attack: cops - Just Part and Parcel of visiting a Big City

This sucks. Seems like they might actually catch him.

Thankfully Jury Nullification exists.
They are going to do everything in their power to make sure this doesn't end up in front of a jury. Even if they do catch him, I expect him to either die in custody or get the most insanely generous plea deal possible.

Imagine being the prosecutor trying to shore up your career and having to convict this guy.
 
Seems like a really big oversight to get photographed with his full face exposed. I assume it’s still considered somewhat normal to wear a mask in NYC, so why wouldn’t he just keep one on the whole time?
he wants to get caught?

he's sloppy about covering his tracks to the degree that he wants to be caught. surely the dude knows he'll be a fucking celebrity folk hero
 
Events like this, and hearing anecdotes of why it's understandable, make me regret ever having been a lolberg once upon a time. All that midwit Ayn Rand drivel about "muh free markets" and "everything da gubbmint does is socialism" makes me realize how stupid I was. Lolbergs are the flat-earthers of politics.

As far-right as I am, I have also become more fiscally progressive and anti-corporate as I gain more life experience. It helps to hear anecdotes from people I know IRL, instead of the "Einstein Clapped" tall tales of terminally online leftists.
It's just weird anyone thinks government run insurance would be any better. If anything they're far more aggressive in their denials because they know there's no alternative to them.

Anyone who has ever had to use the VA knows what I mean. 3 to 6 months just got a consult is the norm.

There's a reason the social security office and not your local doctor has armed guards
 
If this guy gets taken alive the jail’s local post office will need a new employee just to handle the fan Mail. The trial will have fans lined up around the block and tens of thousands of women proposing to him.

Maybe it will help stem the tied of retard psychos shooting up schools and stores when they see the traction killing one CEO got this man.
 
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His wife and children loved him, and he loved them.

If his decisions harmed someone in particular, I respect their and their loved ones' anger and ill wishes. Everyone else is just hyperventilating into their headgear.
While I agree that the general sentiment of celebrating a random person's death is a bit barbaric, keep in mind the kind of person we're throwing up on the cross here.

Give this a quick read, and tell me that these firms don't deserve to be strung up in the streets wholesale.
 
Torrent of Hate for Health Insurance Industry Follows C.E.O.’s Killing
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By Dionne Searcey and Madison Malone Kircher
2024-12-05 17:07:31GMT
Samir al-Hajid said:
Don't worry so much about money. Worry about if people start deciding to kill reporters. That's a quote. For the reason why, you can say I want reporters to know I make more money than them, especially Matt Pearce.
 
I had a similar experience recently, as an American who pays for dental insurance (bout $20 a month pretax). Scheduled same day, $50 out of pocket for extraction, I just had to wait a week for antibiotics to work on abcess.

Really only got screwed on paying for imaging, even after I had the dentist take them for the surgeon ahead of my appointment for free (surgeon claimed "our machine takes better images"), which ended up costing me an extra $100.

If I didn't have insurance, it would've run me $300 plus the imaging cost.
you pay $20/mo every month for dental and they still make you pay for shit????
 
"He lit up a room, nobody disliked him"
Ma'am that's a ceo. It's harder to find people that actually like him.
Do keep in mind when you hear anecdotes like this "nobody disliked him" and that he was genuinely nice they're probably all completely true. Because the people in his office were his coworkers or underlings and were financially benefiting from him and his actions.

They weren't the people down the line being impacted by his decisions.

The same as Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates or Susan Wojeiikisjaikizxicjzdi - I'm sure both of them and people like them are genuinely nice people in person and to their coworkers, friends and family, but it is the businesses that they run and how they run them and the "little guy" that gets impacted by their shit. These people do not or rarely come across the "little guy".

No CEO/C-suite is going to be walking through the office telling the secretary that she's a fat faggot or calling the customer support guy a nigger - these people are human at the end of the day, they have families, they have friends and they have personal lives. When they visit a restaurant they probably hold open the door for other people, they probably make friendly small talk with the restaurant staff, they probably don't pull a Karen if the meal they ordered is slightly wrong, they probably tip nicely and give money to charity and they probably may even engage in volunteer activities as a part of their community through their lives.

It is the fact that they basically operate giant systems via what are essentially spreadsheets that have giant impacts on the "little guys" lives that these people almost never see. They either don't see it because they're hyperfocused or just plain oblivious or they know it exists and choose not to see it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Not_Expect_Too_Much_from_the_End_of_the_World is a very good recent movie that delves into this on a very deep level. It is quite difficult to watch if you fully comprehend what its going on about too. In that movie there is a part where a junior employee from a different company casually asks a visiting senior marketing executive from a giant corporation if they are responsible for deforesting the country she is in - the senior woman gives an answer that deflects and the next day doesn't turn up for a film shoot because she goes and gets drunk at the hotel she's staying at (indicating that she was very aware of it and felt guilt for it and didn't want to be confronted with the consequences of the company that she works for)
 
It's just weird anyone thinks government run insurance would be any better. If anything they're far more aggressive in their deniers because they know there's no alternative to them.

Anyone who has ever had to use the VA knows what I mean. 3 to 6 months just got a consult is the norm.

There's a reason the social security office and not your local doctor has armed guards
Right. Government-run healthcare would be just as bad, if not worse. But something does need to be done about the absurd predatory practices of health insurance companies. But we can't do that, because that's "Muh Socialism".
 
Seems like a really big oversight to get photographed with his full face exposed. I assume it’s still considered somewhat normal to wear a mask in NYC, so why wouldn’t he just keep one on the whole time?
Because it's tough to eat power bars and drink coffee in a mask.
How does a guy making $10M a year have such an ugly wife? He deserved to get murked for that if nothing else.
Damn, the meanest comment on here.
Women on tweeter are fawning over him and trying to throw their virtual pussy at him now (he is also getting compared to Timothy Chalamet in appearance). Usually serial killers and people like the Boston Marathon bomber get fangirls eventually so it is not entirely unexpected but worth noting because of how quick it has happened and how pivotal the "smiling picture" is in the public's perception about him improving even further than it was already:
That's why the feds didn't allow this picture of Timothy McVeigh in the media.
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All that midwit Ayn Rand drivel about "muh free markets" and "everything da gubbmint does is socialism" makes me realize how stupid I was. Lolbergs are the flat-earthers of politics.
Ayn didn't consider that CEOs will fuck over companies, the public, and their employees for short term profit then just leave with their Golden Parachute.

In her ideal world most CEOs are like Henry Rearden that built up their company from nothing and are devoted to its continued success.
 
Do you guys think he was just out for blood or will he continue with more attacks?

Starting with the assumption that the shooter's goal is to intimidate or frighten executives; what are your thoughts on the shooter's best possible course of action?

I think the idea that any stranger who's been denied coverage can walk up to you and shoot you will be extremely frightening to the next potential CEO. However, surely they will simply get bodyguards and feel basically untouchable again.
If there were a second shooting then it wouldn't happen nearly as cleanly and wouldn't be as intimidating because the idea of simple violence is already out there.

When I was thinking about what he might do next to best achieve his goal, the term "shock and awe" kept coming to mind. If he committed a bombing (even unsuccessful), immediately after this shooting, they might not be able to hire a new CEO.
 
That's not a healthcare system.
Reminding private healthcare providers, or the heads of literally any corporate entity for that matter, that if they engage in corrupt greedy behavior that fucks over their customers, we can just leave them dead face down in a fucking gutter is literally the best possible economic system and is exactly what the U.S. Founding Fathers envisioned.
 
you pay $20/mo every month for dental and they still make you pay for shit????
for some weird reason, a lot of insurance either doesn't cover, or only partially covers, dental and vision care.

which is really baffling because the health of your mouth can affect your fucking HEART, but i guess dental care isn't that important. and neither is being able to see, apparently.
 
While I agree that the general sentiment of celebrating a random person's death is a bit barbaric, keep in mind the kind of person we're throwing up on the cross here.

Give this a quick read, and tell me that these firms don't deserve to be strung up in the streets wholesale.
It shouldn't have ever come to this outcome in the first place. It is only that the criminal justice system doesn't do anything about it that we ended up here. The guy was already being investigated for insider trading but the fact that his health insurance company was denying the largest number of treatments, by a significant margin from any other health insurance company is criminal. And if it isn't, then it should be.

A lot of people praise China because corrupt bankers and people who fuck over the "little guy" can and do get death sentences and lengthy prison sentences. Leaving aside death sentences, lengthy prison sentences seem to rarely happen in 1st world countries.

If you're an engineer who signs off on a bridge design and it collapses - you can go to jail as well as lose your license and all sorts of shit. It feels like health insurance companies need a similar model where the CEO has to hold some kind of license and is criminally liable if "bad things" happen.
 
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