Plagued Lolicon/Shotacon Defense Force - The people who jerk off to cartoon children and won't ever shut up about it

[Corn Flakes]

I don't know why the people who make it their mission in life to hate loli don't point this out. That's so much of a checkmate than "lol you must want real kids if you love drawings!!"

The retort tends to be some variant of #NotAllLolicons.

Sure, fair enough. Not all lolicon artists reference CSAM or buy it for personal use. But enough of them do that you don't get to hide behind that hashtag.

 

[Maeis]

The retort tends to be some variant of #NotAllLolicons.

Sure, fair enough. Not all lolicon artists reference CSAM or buy it for personal use. But enough of them do that you don't get to hide behind that hashtag.

even if there's a chance of that I'd never touch the stuff. I literally hunt pedos for the glowies for my job, so I have to see that shit. It's awful.

I dunno if that makes me a "fed" since i'm not part of the 3 letter agencies.

 

[Not Real]

I don't know why the people who make it their mission in life to hate loli don't point this out. That's so much of a checkmate than "lol you must want real kids if you love drawings!!"

They'll probably say something like "well not ALL of the artists trace CP" or just flat out claim that getting off to traced art is still somehow morally better than getting off to the real thing

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

I don't know why the people who make it their mission in life to hate loli don't point this out. That's so much of a checkmate than "lol you must want real kids if you love drawings!!"

Because a lot of lolicons just simply ignore such thing, or say "but there's anti-lolicons like Mr. Pizza who were pedos too!". dorontai still has a fanbase within the BA circles, for example. It's like groypers with the fact that Fuentes is a faggot, they either are into it themselves or will huff weapons-grade copium

 

[Maeis]

Because a lot of lolicons just simply ignore such thing, or say "but there's anti-lolicons like Mr. Pizza who were pedos too!". dorontai still has a fanbase within the BA circles, for example. It's like groypers with the fact that Fuentes is a faggot, they either are into it themselves or will huff weapons-grade copium

yeah a ton of antis end up pedos themselves, it tends to be the people, like i said, that make their mission in life to constantly call out lolicons, they're compensating for something.

 

[Corn Flakes]

yeah a ton of antis end up pedos themselves, it tends to be the people, like i said, that make their mission in life to constantly call out lolicons, they're compensating for something.

That's what I was talking about earlier in the thread with regards to people projecting in order to cover their asses.

Well-adjusted people find lolisho abhorrent, but have better things to do with their lives. People who try way too fucking hard to "own the lolicons", on the other hand, tend to have more than a few tiny skeletons in their closets. That doesn't make the lolicons any better or expiate any of their sins, of course, but it means it's often wise to look at extremely loud people on the internet with a jaundiced eye.

 

[WelperHelper99]

yeah a ton of antis end up pedos themselves, it tends to be the people, like i said, that make their mission in life to constantly call out lolicons, they're compensating for something.

Anti's in that sense are suffering from guilt or just want social media points. They don't actually care about the problem. It's selfish behavior.

 

[Maeis]

That's what I was talking about earlier in the thread with regards to people projecting in order to cover their asses.

Well-adjusted people find lolisho abhorrent, but have better things to do with their lives. People who try way too fucking hard to "own the lolicons", on the other hand, tend to have more than a few tiny skeletons in their closets. That doesn't make the lolicons any better or expiate any of their sins, of course, but it means it's often wise to look at extremely loud people on the internet with a jaundiced eye.

There's also the problem that "loli" is actually a big range. There's literal kids, then there's teenagers that are drawn with adult sexual features but kid bodies. Which is less abhorant than a literal kid even if it's still gross. So, lolicons who are actually hebes might balk at you showing them preeteen loli and asking them what the fuck and muddy the issue (even though it's still really gross.)

 

[Corn Flakes]

There's also the problem that "loli" is actually a big range. There's literal kids, then there's teenagers that are drawn with adult sexual features but kid bodies. Which is less abhorant than a literal kid even if it's still gross. So, lolicons who are actually hebes might balk at you showing them preeteen loli and asking them what the fuck and muddy the issue (even though it's still really gross.)

And then there's the anti-800-year-old-loli, the middle-school girl built like a 25-year old porn star with legs like stilts and a pint of silicone in each tit. Or the male version, the 7ft tall 14-year old kid who can bench-press a small car. We call that the JoJo Special.

But yeah, that's why I take a "I know it when I see it" approach when it comes to loli shit. Ephebophiles are a whole different can of worms, and just for the sake of not muddling up the discussion they're usually best dealt separately from the hardcore "sir, that's an elementary school student" lolicons.

 

[WelperHelper99]

There's also the problem that "loli" is actually a big range. There's literal kids, then there's teenagers that are drawn with adult sexual features but kid bodies. Which is less abhorant than a literal kid even if it's still gross. So, lolicons who are actually hebes might balk at you showing them preeteen loli and asking them what the fuck and muddy the issue (even though it's still really gross.)

Generally, at least in this thread, its accepted a loli is a literal child that's like 5-12. Thats the most common shit you find on social media. The definition shit is all a smoke screen meant to confuse people. They're freaks that like seeing drawings of little kids getting raped.

 

[Diggus Bickus]

Jannies have the work ethic of a mexican illegal, and PG is hit the worst out of all forums because of it. We just have to wait

something something "enjoy your ban stalker child" because null raged about users doing quality control

 

[Maeis]

And then there's the anti-800-year-old-loli, the middle-school girl built like a 25-year old porn star with legs like stilts and a pint of silicone in each tit. Or the male version, the 7ft tall 14-year old kid who can bench-press a small car. We call that the JoJo Special.

But yeah, that's why I take a "I know it when I see it" approach when it comes to loli shit. Ephebophiles are a whole different can of worms, and just for the sake of not muddling up the discussion they're usually best dealt separately from the hardcore "sir, that's an elementary school student" lolicons.

One thing i'm genuinely not sure of is when you have dwarves or other fantasy that are mentally adults but look like children. Is that just as bad as 800-year old vampire loli? I remember there was this anime where this was discussed, and the general idea was that the dwarven women were annoyed that human men were squicked out because they considered it specist to treat them like children.

 

[WelperHelper99]

One thing i'm genuinely not sure of is when you have dwarves or other fantasy that are mentally adults but look like children. Is that just as bad as 800-year old vampire loli? I remember there was this anime where this was discussed, and the general idea was that the dwarven women were annoyed that human men were squicked out because they considered it specist to treat them like children.

I wouldn't consider a fantasy dwarf a kid tbh, the beards and shit kinda make that clear

 

[pro drivor]

One thing i'm genuinely not sure of is when you have dwarves or other fantasy that are mentally adults but look like children. Is that just as bad as 800-year old vampire loli?

If they obviously look like children, it is in the same realm of "ackstually she's 9000 years old in a 3 year old body"

 

[Corn Flakes]

One thing i'm genuinely not sure of is when you have dwarves or other fantasy that are mentally adults but look like children. Is that just as bad as 800-year old vampire loli? I remember there was this anime where this was discussed, and the general idea was that the dwarven women were annoyed that human men were squicked out because they considered it specist to treat them like children.

If it looks like a prepubescent child, it's loli. I don't care if it's a 40-year old halfling lady with 5 kids, I don't wanna see that character sexualized. Now if we're talking about a character who's short and slim but clearly an adult, then it should be okay.

The question then becomes: if you're making a fictional setting (meaning you have full control over what exists in it), why would you create a race of people that look like children? Unless it's somehow relevant to the story, all you're doing is giving loli artists more to work with.

This does come up in Dungeon Meshi/Delicious in Dungeon, but even though the half-foots sometimes get mistaken for tall-men children in-universe, the artist makes pretty clear which ones among them are adults and which are children.

 

[Fag Alert Major Fag Alert]

People should definitely post more of Chibi’s videos because holy shit he is not only a liar but also makes shit up about controversy that don’t even even exist.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

I think the real issue is that some people aren't able to separate reality from fiction, especially in sexual media. For some reason, we've all agreed that violent video games do not make you violent, but that sexual material makes you a sexual predator. And yet we see it manifest as truth a lot of the time. Is it just the dopamine from jacking off being stronger than the thrill of getting a killstreak in Call of Duty?

That's because powerful sexual feelings, sexual arousal, jacking off, can reinforce some things and tear down those barriers that allow one to differentiate fiction from reality.

 

[Maeis]

That's because powerful sexual feelings, sexual arousal, jacking off, can reinforce some things and tear down those barriers that allow one to differentiate fiction from reality.

Yeah, I never really got why people get addicted to masturbating. I mean, sure, it feels great, but it's not that great that i'd commit crimes over it. I don't know what makes someone do that, but then again I've never done drugs and people smoke meth to get their rush.

 

[PHILLIP BANKS]

I think the real issue is that some people aren't able to separate reality from fiction, especially in sexual media. For some reason, we've all agreed that violent video games do not make you violent, but that sexual material makes you a sexual predator. And yet we see it manifest as truth a lot of the time. Is it just the dopamine from jacking off being stronger than the thrill of getting a killstreak in Call of Duty?

Notice how they bring fictional violence when it comes to lolicon debate, because they know its an easy "gotcha". Its easy, if you are into fictional "rape" or "gay shit". Chances are you will be interested in the real stuff, do not compare two emotions to one where one can easily be interpreted as chaos of the mind and released through fictional violence while the other is literal sexual deviancy that is being released through fictional porn

Yeah, I never really got why people get addicted to masturbating.

Because it releases dopamine

 

[Kari Kamiya]

That's because powerful sexual feelings, sexual arousal, jacking off, can reinforce some things and tear down those barriers that allow one to differentiate fiction from reality.

Hence why shipping became srs bidness over time. Some guys got big into shipping, but this was mainly women territory, and emotionally stunted and insecure teenage girls and women are just as terrifying and delusional.