The testicles actually are functional and produce male levels of testosterone, they dissolve the mullerian structures in the womb. The body just cant respond to it. They have male levels of progesterone and they are just pure estrogen. Even females have testosterone. They are feminised males but not females as they can never be fertile as females and have no female organs. There are male advantages that aren’t purely hormonal
This argument has been had before, but to keep it on topic, you did post a pic from Zaelefty's sex development charts. As it is CAIS, the Wolffian ducts don't respond to androgenization at all. So while internal testes might exist, they do not produce testosterone as the body is physically unable to respond to it.
Had the community continued being relegated to existing "behind closed doors," (and frankly, super gate kept *looking at you Bs) this wouldn't have allowed the obfuscating sub communities -- such as enbies, ace, gender fluid, MAPS, demi gender, omni-gender, spectrasexual, sapphic, robosexual, ceterosexual, etc., and especially the most insidious of all: patient-zero they/themselves -- to "live their truth," they wouldn't be in this precarious position of how to distance themselves from them, when they've effectively invaded every space. Whereas, LGs just wanted equal protection and the ability to marry in peace, Troons are literally at the steps of the highest court in the United States petitioning to corrupt the youth. If you think about it, this actually threatens their existence. Because the conversation is glacier-ing away from "I always knew I liked girls" to "I always knew I was a boy."
I blame tumblr. 2015 was when this shit started hitting the mainstream; if you remember Daddy Jim as the Internet Aristocrat, he made videos on headmates and all the shit coming out of tumblr. We all laughed because there was no way this would ever reach the real world. We were wrong, so very wrong. It's now the norm. all that shit about these people 'growing up' just led to them becoming lawyers (Chase Strangio and that Pissed Off Lawyer Erica), activists, and politicians (Sarah McBride, Zooey Zephyr). Tumblr was ground zero. We should have heeded its warning.
if you remember Daddy Jim as the Internet Aristocrat, he made videos on headmates and all the shit coming out of tumblr. We all laughed because there was no way this would ever reach the real world.
With all this talk of intersex conditions I figured we should check in on u/The_Sky_Render (or as he's known here, Taint Goo Guy).
He's still larping as intersex. For those who don't know, he claims his parents patched over his vagina when he was an infant. Yeah. I don't recall if he claimed vaginosis before but he sure is now. Fam, that's gangrene brewing in your filthy taint. He started transitioning at 40 and has been inserting his made-up intersex condition into Reddit discussions on a daily basis since.
Regular readers of this thread may remember this face:
Fuckin' A that's an ugly motherfucker.
Some recent posts. He's been hanging around in r/salmacian a lot. If you don't know what salmacian is it's the freaks that want "penile preserving vaginoplasty" and double dog dicks, that kinda psychotic stuff. Reminder: BUTCHERS ARE ACTUALLY DOING THESE SURGERIES. The dick n' axe wound one anyway.
I'm picturing this guy aggressively shoving his taint at medical professionals screaming "can't you see the skin graft??"
Talk about smelling your own farts. Err jizz.
Periods
So many candidates for random.txt in everything this lunatic says.
Hot take (and sorry for the collateral damage gay Kiwis) but this is why homosexuality shouldn't have been mainstreamed. This is the endgame many of the so-called "bigots" envisioned, but probably couldn't fully articulate. Not because it's "an affront to God" -- because there are even those who are secularist who don't agree with it -- but because the open-door, accepting, affirming, no-hate, love-is-love, laissez-faire mantra they chanted, created the ultimate paradox (Troons) LGs are just now realizing doesn't bode well for them, but also can't reckon how to decouple themself from.
Yep. Started with gay marriage, then the LGBTQ orgs needed a new source of revenue to stay open.
TA DA! Trannies. Now it's infecting kids.
Now people are sick and tired of hearing about the Gays.
I can't help but feel it also slots in with identity politics, post Occupy Wall Street.
The whole "love is love" bullshit is a gateway to accepting child molesters.
Did you know that Germany used to place foster kids with pedo's?
Anyway, we live in disgusting times.
Oh, and I hope people notice who has been behind so much of this.
The Talmud recognizes trans genderism btw.
Even the most inscrutably twisted around intersex freak is still going to pretty much have the beginning of infrastructure to produce egg or sperm, right? This seems like an ineffective argument against the sex binary. No one is making a sperm egg hybrid, or even both sperm and eggs, correct?
Like a flipper baby might not have a normal set of limbs but you wouldn't ever say "Ah, this is actually a pinniped boy."
With all this talk of intersex conditions I figured we should check in on u/The_Sky_Render (or as he's known here, Taint Goo Guy).
He's still larping as intersex. For those who don't know, he claims his parents patched over his vagina when he was an infant. Yeah. I don't recall if he claimed vaginosis before but he sure is now. Fam, that's gangrene brewing in your filthy taint. He started transitioning at 40 and has been inserting his made-up intersex condition into Reddit discussions on a daily basis since.
Regular readers of this thread may remember this face:
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Some recent posts. He's been hanging around in r/salmacian a lot. If you don't know what salmacian is it's the freaks that want "penile preserving vaginoplasty" and double dog dicks, that kinda psychotic stuff. Reminder: BUTCHERS ARE ACTUALLY DOING THESE SURGERIES. The dick n' axe wound one anyway.
With all this talk of intersex conditions I figured we should check in on u/The_Sky_Render (or as he's known here, Taint Goo Guy).
He's still larping as intersex. For those who don't know, he claims his parents patched over his vagina when he was an infant. Yeah. I don't recall if he claimed vaginosis before but he sure is now. Fam, that's gangrene brewing in your filthy taint. He started transitioning at 40 and has been inserting his made-up intersex condition into Reddit discussions on a daily basis since.
Regular readers of this thread may remember this face:
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Fuckin' A that's an ugly motherfucker. View attachment 6718561
Some recent posts. He's been hanging around in r/salmacian a lot. If you don't know what salmacian is it's the freaks that want "penile preserving vaginoplasty" and double dog dicks, that kinda psychotic stuff. Reminder: BUTCHERS ARE ACTUALLY DOING THESE SURGERIES. The dick n' axe wound one anyway.
Most Troons I find disgusting and pathetic but for some reason I really hate that fucking guy.
I don't normally hate people I've never met, hate is a strong word but that guy should be fed to a herd (pack?) of starving Gophers on camera while niggers film it shouting "World Star!"
Even the most inscrutably twisted around intersex freak is still going to pretty much have the beginning of infrastructure to produce egg or sperm, right? This seems like an ineffective argument against the sex binary. No one is making a sperm egg hybrid, or even both sperm and eggs, correct?
Like a flipper baby might not have a normal set of limbs but you wouldn't ever say "Ah, this is actually a pinniped boy."
Wish I could find the wiki for this but it's from the terfblr days. Every abnormality is still inherently male or female regardless of how the sex characteristics develop. The Y chromosome is especially prone to dysfunction because it's a weak little tidbit of genetic material.
Poor little guy
It's no coincidence most troons are MtF thus most troons can claim some sort of intersex condition because it's more common in male phenotypes and usually isn't provable without extensive genetic testing.
Most Troons I find disgusting and pathetic but for some reason I really hate that fucking guy.
I don't normally hate people I've never met, hate is a strong word but that guy should be fed to a herd (pack?) of starving Gophers on camera while niggers film it shouting "World Star!"
I think most of us here have one (or more) troons who, to us, are so utterly repugnant and infuriating that we can't even laugh at them because their antics piss us off too fuckin' much. Nick Contino is my "hate to hate" cow. I just wish that gross pervert would disappear from public view. I mostly avoid looking at his thread because participating in the conversation would incur MATI ratings for sure.
So yeah, just wanted to say I get you. I personally think the Taint Goo guy is just tiresome and trite, mostly because of his endless tirades of pseudo-scientific bull that fool absolutely no one who isn't a clinical moron. I mean, external ovaries?? Come ON.
Yeah thinking about it I worded it wrong. I'm trying to come up with a decent theory on why being trans specifically is so popular today. There must be a reason because when I was a teenager I didn't even know what a transgender was like and I didn't give a fuck until they took over discord and reddit seemingly overnight and I was ran off the platforms because I was unable to play along... something happened, now what happened? My shitty theory is that being a man in 2024 kinda sucks and they see the allure of 'becoming' a woman I guess. But that's the thing, why would you chop your dick off for internet updoots? I wish I was Columbo, then I'd crack the case.
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Poor little guy
It's no coincidence most troons are MtF thus most troons can claim some sort of intersex condition because it's more common in male phenotypes and usually isn't provable without extensive genetic testing.
Very interesting, thank you.
Also I'm going to try and elicit sympathy from all the women I know for having the disability of a tiny little chromosome.
The thing someone should have told them is, no women are ever as ugly as ugly men. Putting a pretty dress on an ugly dude just heightens the ugliness, like how if you buy a new couch all your other furniture looks worse than before.
There are hideously ugly women. The thing is, they're still obviously women. There are dudes who will fuck an ugly woman, even some pretty presentable men, so long as they have some redeeming characteristics. There are even some men who prefer them for not being stuck-up cunts.
But those men want women. They don't want to fuck a dude no matter how much he dolls himself up, and on top of that, troons don't. They're physically and mentally repulsive in every way imaginable. Men, women, gay, straight, they all run screaming. Nobody wants to fuck these foul, stinking weirdoes, not even other foul, stinking weirdoes.
I performed thread necromancy the other day and posted about Mr. Eldena Doublecast(I am not spelling it the stupid way he does). Eldena, real name Max, is an MTF tranny who became popular online for making fandom and homophobic content for anime fans on YouTube.
There’s definitely digging to be done with respect to him, but I wanted to discuss his wife, who was the primary focus of a follow-up I did. He married an actual woman this November, but this December she decided to start testosterone. She did this on the day I resurrected her husband’s thread. It’s like the ghost of his endocrine system is rising from the grave. Anyway, his wife seems very funny, which makes sense because they had a literal clown-themed wedding, which you can see in the previous link in this post.
Archive. HE’S A FUCKING MAN STOP SUCKING HIS DICK AND PLAYING ALONG WITH HIS SEX-GAMES YOU STUPID DESPERATE THIRSTY BITCH
With that introduction out of the way, here’s what the mind of a nonbinary heterosexual “lesbian” who is trying to get hooked on steroids, and is married to a troon, looks like:
No T for me yet because I gotta do a few more labs, fuck my stupid puppy life at least I’m one step closer though!!! :3
Archive.
Aw man, I guess she didn’t start T the day I made that post. That would have been such good meme magic. My guess is that her doctor wants labs done because she’s fat, possibly diabetic, and her endocrine system might not be able to handle it.
Psychrodraws on Tumblr said:
one of my friends is starting estrogen the same day you're starting testosterone, December 4th national HRT day
Wooo!!! Congrats to them I’m not actually sure if I’m even starting it today or how the process is gonna go but regardless I’m hype that I’m one step closer
Archive.
“Min” is short for “Minerva”, because her husband wasn’t satisfied with his wife LARPing as a lesbian - he needed to appropriate female mythological figures as well. Like a good handmaid, she obeys.
If this is related to my testosterone post thank you :3 I don’t even have it yet but I’m in the process so hopefully soon
Going to be drinking the gender fluid from this mug:
#gonna be on an extremely low dose #androgyny potion #frenzy post #I should think of a gender posting tag later #edit I decided it #gender moment #is the tag
Archive.
You know what the “androgyny potion” thing makes me think? She’s trying to make herself lose weight. I genuinely think a lot of pooners and pooner-adjacent enbies hate their obviously female characteristics like cellulite and use those qualities as scapegoats for their low self-esteem. This is entirely conjecture on my part. Anyway, all those posts were #gender moments, whereas these are some #frenzy posts:
Anonymous on Tumblr said:
realize this is probably an odd thing to say but Min being tall and svelte and you being short and round is like. Peak character design.
Archive.
I love how her fans inadvertently (1) reinforce that this is a heterosexual marriage between a lanky nerdy man and the first woman who’d have him and (2) call her fat. Brutal. This was about her wedding photos, by the way. Honestly, I saw them, and she could have fooled me.
Getting gay married soon
[Insert her shitty memes here]
Does anyone know if we have wedding tomorrow
Archive.
Again, she is a woman with a vagina marrying a 6’ft+ man with a penis and half the wedding decorations and all her blog posts are “le epic lesbian marriage lol be gay do crime”. She does it here (with him!) too. And here. And here. And here. And here, and I’m just gonna choose to stop now. Just the cringiest, most homophobic fucking shit from a woman who isn’t settling because she’s cringe enough that she deserves this. One more and I’m tapping TF out.
Anonymous person on Tumblr said:
Btw the op of that consensual cannibalism post you reblogged last night is a terf jsyk
Archive.
Yep, you read that right. Armin Meiwes killing and eating a mentally ill man? Totally cool in Frenzy’s books. But telling this Meg Griffin knock-off that her husband needs to leave the locker room because his penis is scaring your daughter? That’s offensive!
Oh, who am I kidding, neither of these people exercise. I pray that Max can’t find the wet spot and get his circumcised, numb, estrogen-deflated penis inside her, because testosterone is a teratogen. Their genes are already messed up enough, they don’t need to add environmental mutations to this mix. Hopefully they’re just not gonna breed, or she’s like Chantal and has no uterus. Anything but these two conceiving a baby while they’re both on steroids.
Spoiler alert: the poster says they're intersex AND trans. What are the odds.?
Co-signed. If you are cis, even if you are really nice, even if you genuinely are an ally, you are going to believe things that are glaringly wrong and not know some crucial things that are true. I have never met even a single cis person to whom this didn't apply.
Here's a list of the things I most commonly see well-intentioned cis people be wrong about. I am definitely scraping in part from the thread in the OP where it coincides with my experiences. Hit me up if anything sounds weird or wrong and I'll throw you some more information.
— Puberty blockers don't "undermine" bone density. In puberty, the body is changed by sex hormones. In people who are in or past puberty, sex hormones also maintain bone density. Bone density decreases on puberty blockers only as an outcome of their blocking sex hormones.
Bone loss is reversible, and when puberty blockers are used responsibly and for a short period the amount is not significant. Bluntly, when it's become a problem it's done so because cis doctors and parents have forced trans kids to stay on blockers instead of letting them start hormones.
— Testosterone makes trans men's voices deep. Estrogen doesn't make trans women's voices high. This is because the voice deepens by adding mass to the vocal cords in a way which is made to happen by testosterone, but isn't reversed by estrogen.
— Trans people aren't "biologically" "really" the sex they're transitioning away from. In part, this is because cis people don't have a "real" "biological" sex either. There is no inborn sex determiner or combination thereof that you can use to draw a hard line between two sexes.
Every attempt to try ends up with at least hundreds of thousands of cis people placed clearly nonsensically on the wrong side of the line. I could go into detail but it'll take a while. I'll do it if someone really needs me to though.
The fact is that current transition therapies are sufficient that when it comes to trans people using those therapies, in any situation you are ever likely to encounter, it is most practical, realistic, and safe to start by assuming they're physically cis people of their gender and going from there.
The fact is that because those transition therapies can do that, and the only proper determinant of whether someone has those transition therapies is whether their gender is such that they want them, the *most real* determinant of
"biological sex" is felt gender.
— Trans women don't have an advantage over cis women in sports. Every conceivably sport-related part of our bodies is changed by the hormones we take in such a way that it becomes like it would be in cis women. Statistically, we actually tend to underperform.
— Trans women's breasts aren't implants. More accurately, trans women, like all women, can get implants, but most trans women who have breasts don't have implants. We have breasts because we grew them because of the sex hormones in our blood. This is the same way cis women grow them
— Trans women are capable of using our breasts to breastfeed. Our milk is the same as cis women's milk.
— Intersex people aren't all trans, and vice versa. I'm trans *and* intersex, so I can say that. Cynically, the difference is that the cis majority withholds medical transition from trans people, while the perisex majority forces it on intersex people.
— Testosterone causes trans men to develop facial and body hair. It doesn't cause it to disappear from trans women. The quality of the hair generally does change a little bit such that it's less visible, but unless we can afford laser or electrolysis, the hair itself stays.
— Medical transition is classified as medically necessary. It's not something your trans friend can simply put aside for a while in the event of something you personally think is a greater crisis. That's like trying to cut out the expense of glasses by just coercing the wearer to close their eyes.
— There are more gender-affirming medical procedures than just "the chop". Aside from other surgeries, we also take hormones. They cause visible changes in our bodies as I described above. For most of us, they are also important to our general functioning. We cannot "do without for a while".
— Your trans friend who is medically transitioning is not getting it fully funded by the government anywhere that I know of, and in most places is likely paying for most or all of it out of pocket, totally regardless of anything that might make it seem reasonable to expect otherwise.
— There are no special trans medications which big pharma might be making a killing off, or which might have gone undertested in the name of politically correctness. All of our hormone therapies were initially invented for cis people problems, and they were extensively tested then.
Before trans men could get testosterone, it was already being prescribed to cis men with low T, or being Acquired (tm) by bodybuilders. Trans women's T blockers are all repurposed prostate cancer drugs. Trans women's estrogens and progesterone are all repurposed menopausal HRT.
— I mentioned above that biological sex isn't real. One part of this is that if you assume a trans person has an organ that a cis person of the same gender wouldn't, you'll be wrong. Barring accidents, both bodies contain the same organ in some form. This includes all organs I can think of.
Proceeds to have numerous surgeries in an attempt to look like the opposite sex. Talks endlessly about having orgasms of the opposite sex. Whines that they want a uterus implant so they can get pregnant like the opposite sex.
If there’s no biological sex, you don’t need any medical ‘transition’ shit at all, sir. If it’s all gender feels, then feel your gender and you’re done.
Funny how they always know what the opposite sex is when they want a wank or someone to slap about, though.
"— Trans people aren't "biologically" "really" the sex they're transitioning away from. In part, this is because cis people don't have a "real" "biological" sex either. There is no inborn sex determiner or combination thereof that you can use to draw a hard line between two sexes.
Every attempt to try ends up with at least hundreds of thousands of cis people placed clearly nonsensically on the wrong side of the line. I could go into detail but it'll take a while. I'll do it if someone really needs me to though."
Ok just referring to this above quote. What a condescending heap of mansplainery btw. So, the hard line between the sexes is the Y chromosome, that's it. Regardless of what parts they do or don't have, which are non functioning reproductively even in the rarest cases. Yeah yeah one XY person had a mutation that allowed them to carry a baby in their uterus one single time with an implanted fetus and a heap of medical assistance, don't give a fuck. Intersex. Not female.
This troon reckons its "nonsensical" to call all XY people male... I reckon troons should shut the fuck up, and stop using intersex to obfuscate and oh "its complicated"... its really not. You're male, you're mentally ill, you have a fetish, just shut the fuck up about your stupid spectrums and biology lectures
This is from a certain discord server I frequent because their are just so many losers in one area it would cause a singularity if they all went outside. im a tough trans woman and you wouldn't understand. Then in the next sentence the fellow troon says I have no control over...something I chose to enable in myself. This shit is why people are not taken seriously.
Women don’t have hard as fuck journeys because they only take hard as fuck cocks and cum hard as fuck all the time and they actually get to fuckin tell me no if I wanna fuck them so don’t tell me you bitches got it hard my dick doesn’t suck itself and you can actually wear women’s clothes without being laughed at and hot teenagers don’t snicker at you in public or run outta the bathroom when I ask if they can show me how to do my mascara UGH cis women
This came up on my FYP and I thought it was a still from one of those whacky mid 2000's comedy movie, but no, this is from a Scottish wedding photographer's page.
Thought maybe I could have some real gold on my hands, unfortunately all I could find was that they are from Glasgow and are named Yvonne and Hartley.
HE’S A FUCKING MAN STOP SUCKING HIS DICK AND PLAYING ALONG WITH HIS SEX-GAMES YOU STUPID DESPERATE THIRSTY BITCH 
I’m not actually sure if I’m even starting it today or how the process is gonna go but regardless I’m hype that I’m one step closer 
#edit I decided it #gender moment #is the tag
