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Yeah, that'll fix it. Cali loves brickhons with mediocre acting skills.
Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.
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You can check out any time you like but you can never leave... and Ollie checked in a long time ago.
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People are fleeing California like rats from a sinking ship, wanting to permanently relocate there is deranged.
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I hope he does. California will exacerbate every one of his negative personality traits, because he'll find it easier to completely surround himself with people who share them. He'll probably develop a serious drug habit, get masses of plastic surgery, be even more of a pretentious douchebag and a degenerate and a narcissist and a liar.
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Chube going to bankrupt the whole family by moving to Cali instead of pulling a John Waters before he tried to sell out.
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I'd be all in favour of the Cali arc if I didn't think he'd end up doing porn after it sunk in the Hollywood dream was never happening.
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Thankfully, he has too much personal wealth plus is too far up the upper/middle class ladder for that to happen.
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Oh I'm not suggesting he'd do it for the money, but out of pure spite.
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Mick Ignis (the troon in the bottom right) lives in Los Angeles. So does Vivienne Medrano, Ignis’s boss - he’s a voice actor and transgender sensitivity consultant at her animation studio.
A lot of animators are down there, actually. Ignis himself worked on Moral Orel. California (specifically Burbank and CalArts) is home to many animators and wanna-be animators. Given that Olly is (1) a horrifying troon and (2) Bri’ish, voice acting might be his only viable career option as an actor.
And he’s far from the only troon to do this. Trannies love voice acting, because it’s acting without the body, or because they’re autists for whom the word is the only means of communication. Here’s some examples, both professional, amateur, and somewhere in-between:
- Adam Seth “Maddie Joan” Blaustein, the English voice of Meowth from Pokémon.
Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably male.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
- Cain Logan Eugene McKee, AKA “Kayleigh Grace Clementine” McKee, a 6’11/2”troon who defies tranny convention of stealing a woman’s name by stealing the stage-name of a man. He admits to copying Thomas James Gabel AKA “Laura Jane Grace”, a domestic abuser who came out after his poor wife was saddled with him. Currently dating another troon (shown below on the left of the first photo) because no normal woman or man would fuck either of these freaks. His girlfriend (male) uses it/its pronouns and he identifies as asexual.
Low 2D:4D ratio. What a stud.
This was taken this September. Nothing quite like a 30 something year old man with fried, wispy hair; ghoulish arms; tacky goth fashion; and hideous tattoos filming in his car.
- Speaking of copying the same fucking names ad nauseum, we have Matthew W. “Maddie” Taylor. I guess “Maddie” is the Gen X equivalent of “Alice” and “Lily”. He’s bisexual, which is a funny way to say textbook autogynephile. He admitted this while seething and coping (and dilating?) about Dave Chappelle.
That adam’s apple. He looked like a blonde Gabe Newell, back when he was fat.
Because of the abundance of trannies, I get why some people would argue that his L.A. plans are less than insane… But this is an era of and a man with recording equipment. You don’t need to be physically in L.A. to work as a voice actor or animator anymore. You can work from anywhere, provided there’s some means of standardizing the audio. The only reason people still go to California (besides the memes) is because they see the pre-existing studios and art schools as a means to network. He could make this shift without paying an absurd amount in rent. What I’m trying to say is that even when Olly is smart, he’s dumb.
Mick Ignis’s old IMBD page (pre-trooning) says “He is often noted for his unusually tall, slender, androgynous body-type and versatile physicality.” 
I don’t see him doing pornography. Maybe soft-core OnlyFans stuff so he can claim to be a “sex worker” like Elliot Fong Jones, the computer engineer. He’s shilled for “sex work” in the past. Can’t see him doing hardcore because it’s such a dramatic loss of control. Then again, Hontra did say in Opulence that trannies always fall a level beneath their station of birth when they troon.
That’s his way of saying he doesn’t have male privilege anymore, and far be it from Olly to differ from Nick. With that said, rich people do fucked up shit all the time. This dude already said it…
… but just to reiterate their point…. You know about Mayli, right?
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This is really interesting, great post! I think Olly still primarily wants to be an Actor on the big screen, but I bet he is riding his connections to Ignis really hard. Hazbin and Helluva Boss are huge, he would absolutely want to get in on that. Plus the fans have an unhealthy obsession with the voice actors and almost worship them, what more could an Olly want? Let's hope 2025 is the moving to LA arc.
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Me too. He’s acting like Ignis is his bestie - which is exactly how he behaved with Nick, Jonah “Paris” Lees, and his blonde vocal coach. It’s almost like he doesn’t have real relationships and goes through phases before exhausting the other party and moving on.
With that said, just because he wants a live-action career doesn’t mean he’s gonna get it. People have pointed out before that he’s a gigantic, lumbering, swollen gammon-face. His acting is shit. But voice acting? You can’t see his body. Americans think Bri’ish accents are fancy. It seems like his best shot at making a career of acting, unless he wants to live off YouTube money and Drs. Mom and Dad.
I hope he doesn’t. Hazbin is whatever, but I like Helluva Boss and Brandon Rogers. Mick as Sally Mae is annoying but tolerable because he appeared once in the series and again in a short. Having a second ghastly troon might be more than I can tolerate.
Honestly, hard disagree. Stay in England, Ollie, don’t get geographically closer to me or things I like.
Now that’s interesting.
I was thinking about the old “is dysphoria real” debate between the (explicitly) nonbinary troonery and (soft) transmedicalist camps, and how this relates to Olly and Nick. I believe troons calls this tucute / transtrender vs. transmedicalist / truscum discourse. Like, why did Chube shill for the camp he did and why did Hontra shill for his?
Nick is looking jacked for an opioid-abusing fop. Thick, solid, tight.
Here’s my theory: It’s about control. To admit you have dysphoria means you have a vulnerability. Becoming trans inherently makes people wonder what is wrong with your self esteem, because normal people don’t need medical experiments to look in the mirror. It’s pretty intuitive - people who invest absurd amounts of money to look a certain way have deep-rooted insecurities about their appearance.
You see the assumption here. Transsexuals, by definition, hate either all or part of themselves… otherwise, why change?T. Harris as Hannibal Lecter said:
This is such an obvious and automatic assumption, that most trannies lean into it. For example, Nick is better at reading the room than Olly. He knows that he isn’t going to convince people that he has a normal body image. He’s trooning out, which, like I established, intrinsically means that there is something about his body he wants to change. Why want a change? Because the one they have is insufficient. Combine that with Hontra’s early disclosures of self-hatred and (genuinely funny) displays of self-deprecation. Much like Eddie Izzard, they both made the mistake of speaking a little too frankly about themselves before trooning out.
Now, you might say, didn’t Olly suicide bait in that silly Cosmonaut video? Isn’t that the same thing? Well, I’ll admit that may seem similar: Olly’s videos like Men. Abuse. Trauma. and Suicide & Mental Health and Nick’s Psychiatry and Gender Dysphoria all have copious self-pity, staged-crying-on-camera, and other pathetic and adolescent displays.
Note: I refuse to use the stupid fucking spelling that Olly uses. He does it so his suicide-baiting gets past family-filters, because they’re both self—aggrandizing and shameless rich failsons.
Nevertheless, I think they’re pretty different. Nick’s whining is clearly staged and meant to be understood as acting. It’s hard to forget that he’s acting during the crying scenes in Dysphoria when he pulls an Ibsen and reminds you by playing all the characters in the scene. He’s fake crying, yeah, but the audience knows that it’s fake. By contrast, Ollie does this weird thing where he tries to make it seem like he genuinely broke down during his monologues. He might go back and say later that it was acting and he felt bad about lying to his audience but that’s okay because he’s trying to articulate a greater truth, or whatever. These are all understandable copes for someone to employ, but they are copes. You lied, you failed to lie, and even if you lied for the sake of genuine connection, you still lied.
Another reason I consider their screeds different is that Nick admits he’s fucking nuts, and that isn’t really anyone’s fault. His parents took him to a doctor and tried to make him not-nuts, but it didn’t work. Olly, on the other hand, attributes all his misfortune to his
Basically, his being a lunatic is, in Olly’s mind, everyone else’s fault. If he’s sad, it’s not because he’s a depressive, it’s because his ex and Rowling and all the TERFs did something to him. Nick has enough insight to acknowledge that sometimes people don’t stay together and no one is at fault. This is impossible for Olly - the girlfriend he cucked with a man and kicked out onto the street slapped his face one time or something.
Returning to the dysphoria discussion… why does Chube push this nonbinary, “my body just did this one day, babes”, “being trans is a gift”, “dysphoria is a meme” schtick? Nick does his transmedicalist routine because he knows he’s not convincing anyone he has normal self-esteem, and whining is a good way to guilt people into playing along with tranny sex games. I think Olly rejects this because even admitting that he dislikes a single thing about himself makes his mental health his issue. It implies that he’s the one who needs to do some CBT / DBT to mellow out, rather than society hurting him. It’s not that he hates himself as a man, it’s that he just is a woman and he has no strong feelings either way, babes! If anything, he’s better than
When a tranny concedes that their behaviour is a function of self-hatred, it opens them up to insults. It’s pretty straightforward - even if you don’t think a tranny looks especially rancid, you always have a pocket full of nasty comments that you can throw at them. “Nice hands, dude.” “Uh huh, so what’s the highest note in your singing range.” “Your stubble is coming in, bro.” This is possible because it’s obvious that a tranny will hate their male characteristics (even if it’s online and you literally cannot see them).
With the denial of dysphoria, Olly can just go, “uh I love tall women with deep voices lol I’m literally Dr. Girlfriend” or “gosh I wish I could grow facial hair mine just stopped growing I don’t know why babes”. That’s why he so carefully avoids talking about specific features or procedures - that would tip people off to his insecurities. When he’s asked about his vulnerabilities - even when the ask is obviously from a troon fan - he guardedly avoids admitting anything specific. He wants to make sure that no one can guess what ticks him off. He doesn’t want people to know what presses his buttons, even if conceding to a “button” (ex. Dysphoria) would lend credence to his LARP.
Ollie’s such a fucking narc that even when it literally behooves him he won’t just say “I felt really bad about being a man because XYZ”. He’ll never do a scene like Nick measuring his hairline. Olly does this because he’s more brand-conscious than Nick, but it’s also why Olly will never be a real artist. I hate trannies and tranny ideology, but Gender Dysphoria has some technical competency and emotionally compelling moments. Anyone who has ever felt ugly can relate to Nick’s perseverating on his hairline. What can people relate to in Oliver? Nothing, because he tries not to let the mask slip. And it’s not a matter of pride - he’ll wear poorly-fitting women’s clothes and pretend to be suicidal for clicks - he is shameless. It’s a matter of power. In a way, it is sort of shameless to lie so brazenly. It’s the sort of flabbergasting arrogance of a narcissist.
And you see this in other lolcows. Ralph and Boogie will go on and on about how much haters envy their lifestyle, “it’s tax free, bitch”, etc. Then, without missing a beat, they turn around and start e-begging. But, if in the midst of the e-begging, someone tries to humiliate them (because charity often is about displaying power and status), they get snippy. “Hey fuck you man my life doesn’t suck that fucking bad what the fuck do you know”. This is the tranny equivalent. “Oh boo hoo, being a tranny is so hard!” “Okay, stop wearing women’s clothing.” “But I want to.” “Why? Do you feel bad or something when you don’t?” “No, but I need to or I’ll die. Being a trans is a gift!” Like… what? This seems like a c o n t r a d i c t i o n.
Other trannies do this, but they’re usually the dregs of the community. Think of Kevin Gibes, who will post photos of his genitals and rant about how hot he finds his “squish” (ie. his paunch). He’ll say he hopes Kiwi Farms is grossed out… and then he’ll cry and say that no one should show him that evil website. He’s simultaneously the hottest thing ever, totally grandiose, and the next moment he’s a poor little baby. But not because he’s a hideous mutilated grotesque, because Kiwi Farms.
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I'm suggesting he'd do it to spite everyone, not just his parents. I'll admit I don't know a huge deal about Olly as a person, but I have a broader knowledge of general troon behaviour than I ever wanted thanks to this forum and a universal trait among all of them is cutting off your nose to spite your face. When they don't get their way they default to scorched earth with alarming regularity.
Will it happen with Olly? Maybe/probably not, I'm just not ruling it out.
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I'd love Choob to move to LA. I wonder if he'd start affecting his bad American accent more, or if he'd amp up his posho voice to be more of a novelty over there.
However I'm not sure he can just move to California. He's not going to get sponsored by a company; even if he's now a SAG-AFTRA member (we can't check unless we're SAG-AFTRA registered casting directors), he's not going to have the sort of employer sponsorship that would let him move there - and let's be real, I doubt there's any American productions that would pay to sponsor him temporarily when they could just get someone else to play any role he got. He's not got anyone who could petition a green card... unless Dave leaves his wife or Morgana's willing to marry him (which I doubt). While he's rich, he doesn't have the obscene amount of wealth that would get him an investor visa, and I don't know that Patreon exactly counts as proof of guaranteed income.
The other route he could pursue is an EB1A visa for "extraordinary ability", but he's not extraordinary enough and hasn't won any of the awards that could qualify him; Hollywood has enough aspiring actors who've done bit-parts, would-be screenwriters and YouTubers already.
When a British cow talks about wanting to move to the US it's normally complete pie-in-the-sky nonsense. Ollie's near enough to being able to move to America that it doesn't feel out of the realms of possibility, but unless I'm missing something he has absolutely no way of doing so - which no doubt tortures him. Maybe he could try overstaying a tourist visa in a sanctuary city, but that'd mean he'd be unable to leave America (and Trump will probably quash that sanctuary city ordinance Los Angeles just passed) and isn't really Ollie's style.
However I'm not sure he can just move to California. He's not going to get sponsored by a company; even if he's now a SAG-AFTRA member (we can't check unless we're SAG-AFTRA registered casting directors), he's not going to have the sort of employer sponsorship that would let him move there - and let's be real, I doubt there's any American productions that would pay to sponsor him temporarily when they could just get someone else to play any role he got. He's not got anyone who could petition a green card... unless Dave leaves his wife or Morgana's willing to marry him (which I doubt). While he's rich, he doesn't have the obscene amount of wealth that would get him an investor visa, and I don't know that Patreon exactly counts as proof of guaranteed income.
The other route he could pursue is an EB1A visa for "extraordinary ability", but he's not extraordinary enough and hasn't won any of the awards that could qualify him; Hollywood has enough aspiring actors who've done bit-parts, would-be screenwriters and YouTubers already.
When a British cow talks about wanting to move to the US it's normally complete pie-in-the-sky nonsense. Ollie's near enough to being able to move to America that it doesn't feel out of the realms of possibility, but unless I'm missing something he has absolutely no way of doing so - which no doubt tortures him. Maybe he could try overstaying a tourist visa in a sanctuary city, but that'd mean he'd be unable to leave America (and Trump will probably quash that sanctuary city ordinance Los Angeles just passed) and isn't really Ollie's style.
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He is not Dr. Girlfriend! Dr. Girlfriend is petite!
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I'm not an immigration lawyer or anything, but I think Nebula could probably sponsor him for a green card. He could also get a tourist visa, stay for his allotted 180 days, hop over the border to Mexico for a couple of weeks (or visit home) and then get a new one. He has the financial means to be able to do that repeatedly, as long as he doesn't get on the wrong side of Homeland Security.
Having trouble posting the screencaps, but we were right in guessing that Olly would be on University Challenge:
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Genuinely can't wait to see him fuck off his teammates, try to banter /be witty, not get a single answer, then out of desperation to just volunteer something, get some wrong.
*whilstles strings theme *
Shame it's not still Paxman.
*whilstles strings theme *
Shame it's not still Paxman.
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I'm actually very curious to see how well he performs.
Some bonus BlueSky cringe I couldn't post before:
Olly is desperate to make sure American followers understand why it's such a big deal that he'll be making an appearance alongside some fellow sub-Z-list notable alumni:
He is presumably unaware that the entire format and concept of University Challenge is American in origin. This is College Bowl, which pre-dates University Challenge:
Speculation: he tried and failed to be selected for University Challenge when he was a student, and the reason he's so excited about it now is that he can finally access the narc rush he was denied all those years ago. Thanks to his YouTube career, and with the help of troons/troon supporters at the BBC, he's now achieved what he wasn't smart enough to achieve back then.
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You'd think Ollie having a whole career on youtube as pseudointellectual and knowledgable about Marxist thought would be aware of the inherent classism of University Challenge. Since it presents alumni from private schools as having opinions that are inherently more worthwhile to listen to than public school alumni. You'd think Ollie aware of such a thing would at the very least politely decline an offer. But hes a narc sell out who has no true beliefs other than what immediately benefits him in the moment so I doubt the thought even crossed his mind.
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Auntie has very helpfully provided a presser about the contestants:
Suddenly Toob seems very proud of going to St Andrews.
I've never heard of any of these people, although in Abigail Harrison-Moore's defence she's there as an academic rather than celebrity. Jamie MacDonald is one of those circuit comedians who seems to have just gotten his foot in the door with the Beeb, possibly because being blind has given him an edge (he was on a recent Celebrity Masterchef). Tim Samuels seems to be a fairly respectable journalist, although he doesn't seem to have made a documentary since 2014.
Hilariously Jamie MacDonald appears to be a shitlord.
It'd never make it into the show but I imagine there'd be some pretty amusing clashes of personality on this panel.
Interesting that he describes his boyfriend as "soft" and "beautiful". Do we reckon the boyfriend is actually a pooner?