🐟 Fishtank Sam Hyde's Fishtank.live General - Jet Neptune's Little House of Horrors

[Kong Strong]

On their discussion about the voting system; there's multiple ways to fix it.

• You could have the fish nominate 3 people (top three people with most votes), but have audience decide on the elimination. You get the benefit of people "playing the game", but not the downside of interesting people getting the boot (as long as the audience doesn't go full retard).
• You can also have vote-to-save instead of vote-to-kick, which changes the dynamic.
• Instead of 1 fish getting 1 vote, you can give them 3 point votes (2 points for their bigger threat, 1 point for the lesser threat), which further changes the dynamic.
• You can even ban the discussion of voting completely, only let them discuss who they are voting for in the voting room (this has positives and negatives).

You can use all or any combination of these to make it so voting doesn't eliminate the most interesting people.

The audience always goes full retard, the audience would have voted out Jon and Jimmy week 1.

 

[Queesechake]

Did Alex ever own up to being a massive lying vagina retard or did he just go silent?

 

[#lurker]

the audience frequently goes full retard

The audience always goes full retard

Here's how I'd do it;
Each fish gets a three point vote; 2 points for someone. 1 point for someone else.
Top three people with most votes are nominated.
Audience then decides by vote-to-save (person with least votes leaves). The controversial people are rarely voted out in this situation.

This is a complete rip off of some versions of Big Brother, but it does work.

 

[Karen Horney]

You can't let the audience vote because the audience is full of retards. You can't let the fish vote because the tank is full of retards. You can't let production 'vote' because production is full of retards. Eliminations will always be retarded, there's no real way to avoid it.

 

[millais]

The audience voted to bet on the wrong color. Nuff said.

 

[Kong Strong]

I would just tell everyone day 1 that their stay in the house depends solely on their ability to be entertaining and interesting.
And then just shit-can people that stop trying or aren't interesting. Then last 2-4 do a cell.

 

[Pitckus]

Over the course of the past half hour Sam has said 3 different times the season would have been fucked without Burt.
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I stand by what I said about Burt after the first night of FH 2.0:

Burt is still the GOAT, you can’t trick me into thinking he isn’t a content machine.

He has absolutely been a content machine for the show.

 

[Lady Rackets thong]

>Pippa the Ripper-What's up
>ya got a yellow ball and ya can't play enough (no)
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@Osama Bin Laden

 

[Sam Losco]

Sam bought the house they used this season under his own name so not surprising they will use it again. Getting a loan for a 1.2m house... he may be broke with fish bucks, but he ain't broke with real money.

 

[BullfrogBill]

Someone sent a TTS earlier saying to go Hell's Kitchen mode for eliminations and I agree that it would be the best if they really wanted to have some kind of voting mechanic. Have them all vote for 2 people to be eliminated and those two will have to plead their case why they should stay to Sam and Sam decides which one will get eliminated.

In Hell's Kitchen, Gordon Ramsey has disregarded the vote many times and eliminated who he wants to anyway regardless if they are one of the two so there's no reason the same can't be true of Fishtank.

 

[Norstein Bekkler]

On their discussion about the voting system; there's multiple ways to fix it.

• You could have the fish nominate 3 people (top three people with most votes), but have audience decide on the elimination. You get the benefit of people "playing the game", but not the downside of interesting people getting the boot (as long as the audience doesn't go full retard).
• You can also have vote-to-save instead of vote-to-kick, which changes the dynamic.
• Instead of 1 fish getting 1 vote, you can give them 3 point votes (2 points for their bigger threat, 1 point for the lesser threat), which further changes the dynamic.
• You can even ban the discussion of voting completely, only let them discuss who they are voting for in the voting room (this has positives and negatives).

You can use all or any combination of these to make it so voting doesn't eliminate the most interesting people.

Honestly I think they should nix voting entirely. Have elimination be based on challenge participation/placing. Nontent fish will naturally weed themselves out.

Also, while funny, Sam needs to stop making tank wide challenges based on physical prowess. I'd rather see what the fish can endure rather than how much they can lift.

Once again, the babydoll challenge was one of the most successful challenges this season, they just happened to do it at a time when most of the active participants were newbies no one gave a flying fuck about.

The challenges that include some combination of physical/mental endurance(not strength) and a social dynamic will always be the best. It's why the cell always produces kino towards the end, when people are at their mental/physical limits.

Again, while funny, you have to have the stars align to get a cast that gives a fuck about a pull-up challenge. Outside of the already fit, only the hungriest fish is going to take it seriously. The others are just going to (logically) think "I can't improve that much in a few days".


Honestly going forward, I think they need to have a daily challenge for fish bucks, and a weekly challenge towards elimination, and put elimination solely on fish that refuse to compete (and I don't mean success, I mean effort).

 

[Sicko Hunter]

 

[#lurker]

Honestly I think they should nix voting entirely. Have elimination be based on challenge participation/placing. Nontent fish will naturally weed themselves out.

Respectfully, this is worse. It means the best character of the season can be booted on a whim. Imagine if they had an elimination challenge week 1 where Burt or Alex was the loser.

 

[Halloween23]

Jet said the "finale" is going to be them giving the fish their phones back and then them just doing whatever they want to.

Its over. Burt won.

 

[Norstein Bekkler]

Respectfully, this is worse. It means the best character of the season can be booted on a whim. Imagine if they had an elimination challenge week 1 where Burt or Alex was the loser.

Production needs to make challenges that insure that doesn't happen. Look at Alex. No matter how much he blusters about how rich he is, this retard got on his hands and knees and went full slobber mutt to win $200.

And it's not like participation challenges don't have leeway for production rigging. Like the reason they told Binx she lost the disability challenge was that no one assigned "schizo" will ever top Vance in S1. They do whatever they want. You just have to keep some semblance of the *illusion* of a challenge during critical moments.

Binx getting eliminated in the final 2 because she had an elimination "thought" is stupid. Simbal getting eliminated in the final 4 because a bunch of fame hungry broads got convinced by Binx to vote for him is fucking stupid.

Have a competition that can be safely rigged without rising suspicion.

 

[Nihil Jung]

Here's how I'd do it;
Each fish gets a three point vote; 2 points for someone. 1 point for someone else.
Top three people with most votes are nominated.
Audience then decides by vote-to-save (person with least votes leaves). The controversial people are rarely voted out in this situation.

This is a complete rip off of some versions of Big Brother, but it does work.

It's brilliant in a "preserving content" way, but I really don't want the show to be compelled to have fish that could understand this relatively easy, albeit non-standard voting system.

Keep it simple, keep em dumb.

 

[Chop Top]

Why does all the theorycrafting about eliminations go back to voting with you people? Democracy is gay and retarded and especially for a show like Fishtank.

Voting is the fast track to nontent and friendtank because people who create conflict get voted off. Conflict is good to the audience and bad to the contestants.

It should be challenge-based like Naked & Afraid’s competitive seasons. Fishtank is also a survival show of sorts and challenges are already a part of it.

The only thing that would need to change is that the wiggers actually keep track of scores and stay somewhat consistent.

This way eliminations are completely skill-based (but can still be rigged if needed) and there’s no penalty for being a shit stirrer.

The only bonus I’ve seen from voting is the absolute kino of Alex dreadfully snatching his glasses off his face during the first elimination.

 

[#lurker]

Have a competition that can be safely rigged without rising suspicion.

Alex and Burt were neither brains nor brawn, so it would have been very hard to rig challenges in their favor. Remember they've rigged challenges before to abysmal results.

 

[Norstein Bekkler]

Alex and Burt were neither brains nor brawn, so it would have been very hard to rig challenges in their favor. Remember they've rigged challenges before to abysmal results.

Is a production L. I'm saying create challenges where the result is subjective enough to rig unless the contestant just doesn't compete. They do it pretty often honestly, just not when it matters.

 

[code123]

Alex and Burt were neither brains nor brawn, so it would have been very hard to rig challenges in their favor. Remember they've rigged challenges before to abysmal results.

a subjective challenge is easy to rig.

Why does all the theorycrafting about eliminations go back to voting with you people? Democracy is gay and retarded and especially for a show like Fishtank.

i like all the drama voting can bring but you have to leave some leeway. i like the idea of voting for immunity, or like voting to put the bottom 4 in an elimination challenge (that is subjective).

edit: another idea i had was to make the girls vote and the men do some physical challenge. it would encourage the men to fuck with the women, as there strength would keep them immune and let the catty women peck at each other, and it would make a good laugh to make the weak or gay men vote with the women if sam does not like them or put the dikes with the men.