Is anybody else here a nuclear winter fan?

[BirdUp]

I just don’t give a shit about the massive amounts of soot and smoke injected into the stratosphere from nuclear firestorms, it’s not a choice, my brain just doesn’t register blocked sunlight reducing global temperatures by 15-25°F as a dealbreaker.

But I have always to some extent despised the wider community of agriculturalists who make global food production their identity, shove it into every facet of their life, & all the consumerism with vertical farming.

I like other stuff in life like listening to emergency broadcasts on my trek through the wasteland, going to the fallout shelter's makeshift gym, bartering for moonshine, and watching civil defense films.

But more often than not, I’m just grossed out by the excessive farming.
Including aeroponics.
I don’t really care if others think my lifestyle is nasty or not, & I don’t make it my personality to hate farmers unless one of them is trying to actively assault me for no cause.

But it’s often an isolating feeling being somebody like me who just can’t stand the obnoxious majority of farmers with nutrient mist, & just wants to exist as a regular guy who can casually appreciate mass die-offs of plants due to lack of sunlight without all the fuckin’ politics.

Anybody else feel the same at all?

 

[HyperboreanRightsActivist]

If the nukes drop I hope all of you faggots die and earthworms evolve sentience. I have always wanted to larp as earthworm jim and be king of the worms

 

[Tsukasa Kadoya]

You have guns to deal with raiders? Because they will be the biggest threat after the literal fallout rains down and kills all plant life.

 

[Dagoth AMOGUS]

The rain from a nuclear winter sounds almost as bad as the impact. Could be acid rain with pH levels as low as ever seen. But who can say? By then we will be lucky to be alive

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

I don't think anyone's mentioned this, but there's an actual flaw in the nuclear winter hypothesis. Yes, it's still a hypothesis even to this day. The main problem is that it's reliant on nuclear weapons testing data from the 1940s and 1950s. It doesn't take modern building codes into account, it doesn't take into account the actual change in warhead design, whether it's air burst or ground burst, and more smaller factors that add up. Now with 1940s and 1950s bombs we probably would've gotten nuclear winter but now? Maybe... But it probably wouldn't be as bad as people think in my opinion.

 

[Pierre D'Olnique]

No, it's a shitty expansion pack.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Nothing Radioactive Ever Happens

 

[Vampirella]

I live where it gets so hot you'd wish for a nuclear winter.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

Patrolling the Mojave made me one.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

No, I'm more of a nuclear summer guy.

 

[Tari]

Patrolling the mojave almost makes you wish OP wasn't such a faggot.

 

[Jewthulhu]

I don't think anyone's mentioned this, but there's an actual flaw in the nuclear winter hypothesis. Yes, it's still a hypothesis even to this day. The main problem is that it's reliant on nuclear weapons testing data from the 1940s and 1950s. It doesn't take modern building codes into account, it doesn't take into account the actual change in warhead design, whether it's air burst or ground burst, and more smaller factors that add up. Now with 1940s and 1950s bombs we probably would've gotten nuclear winter but now? Maybe... But it probably wouldn't be as bad as people think in my opinion.

There's also the question whether it would throw up enough dust to cause a significant change in the earth's temperature. There really is no reliable data on that.
Not to mention the hypothesis was put forward by staunch anti-nuclear activists.

 

[Otis Mallebrok]

I have 16 metric tonnes of canned and dry foods stored, so I don't care about it either. And don't come knocking, I am heavily armed.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

I don't think anyone's mentioned this, but there's an actual flaw in the nuclear winter hypothesis. Yes, it's still a hypothesis even to this day. The main problem is that it's reliant on nuclear weapons testing data from the 1940s and 1950s. It doesn't take modern building codes into account, it doesn't take into account the actual change in warhead design, whether it's air burst or ground burst, and more smaller factors that add up. Now with 1940s and 1950s bombs we probably would've gotten nuclear winter but now? Maybe... But it probably wouldn't be as bad as people think in my opinion.

There's also the question whether it would throw up enough dust to cause a significant change in the earth's temperature. There really is no reliable data on that.
Not to mention the hypothesis was put forward by staunch anti-nuclear activists.

That don't mean shit when you have nothing to supply because all the factories were nuked and everyone dies of famine because there's almost no fertilizer (because the factories got nuked/workers who lived there died) and there's frosts in July throughout the temperate world meaning most crops fail. Would there be nuclear winter at apocalyptic levels? Most likely not, due to stuff already stated. But nuclear war is still bad.

 

[Jewthulhu]

That don't mean shit when you have nothing to supply because all the factories were nuked

If we're talking the US and Russia, the main targets are nuclear installations and C3I systems. Cities are hostages for negotiation after the initial exchange.
Russia also has a tactical nuclear doctrine, which might mean logistic centers in Europe might be targets, but that's a different story.

 

[Cats]

yes i like the way the Bombs feel on my skin and the radiation helps to improve my mood. also my "special flowers" can only grow properly during a full-on radiation storm, thats why all the fruit they have been producing up until now has had to be sacrificed.

soon, though

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

That don't mean shit when you have nothing to supply because all the factories were nuked and everyone dies of famine because there's almost no fertilizer (because the factories got nuked/workers who lived there died) and there's frosts in July throughout the temperate world meaning most crops fail. Would there be nuclear winter at apocalyptic levels? Most likely not, due to stuff already stated. But nuclear war is still bad.

The logistical effects of a nuclear war are completely understated in favor of fearmongering about human extinction by anti-nuclear activists. With that said, industry is or was* less likely to be targeted compared to say communication nodes, naval bases, or even Air Fields for example. If you have a treaty limiting you to deploy 1,500 warheads on deployment at a time you're going to be more considerate towards choosing a particular target. As of recently with the break down of SALT and START, we're likely going to see higher warhead counts on both sides of this new Cold War so this state is not likely going to last long.

*With recent geopolitical developments in regards to strategic nuclear treaties, this state of nuclear war strategy is more likely to go out the window.

 

[I'm Retarded?]

I love this site

 

[SteinserGate]

Is OP a nukker?
How do we deal with nukkers?

 

[Hamstirer]

Anybody else feel the same at all?

Winter stopped being fun once I got out of school and no longer got snow days.
That being said, if it turns into a constant winter after this post, I will make it my life's mission to track you down, hog tie you, and keep you in a tiny room that is constantly 95° and you can't escape from.