UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot outside Hilton hotel in Midtown in targeted attack: cops - Just Part and Parcel of visiting a Big City

Last thing you should want is a bunch of little john browns or a bleeding kansas situation. Best case scenario is you’re ignorant of the history of left wing terrorism (it is something they genuinely don’t teach in schools) like the LA Times bombing, Sacco&Vanzetti, or simply the generic left wing playbook to amass the scum of the Earth and use their presence to bypass the normal levels of power.
"Only the left assassinates people."
"No fellow right wing person could ever come up with a reason to kill someone extra judiciously" Tokyo_Stabbing.jpg
 
Great. And who’s going to pay for it? Healthcare spending was close to 5 trillion dollars last year.

Let’s pretend that a billion of that was pure profits by those mean insurers, so that’s 4 trillion dollar extra in the federal budget.

Do you want to pay 10.000$ more in taxes every year for a shitty system with waiting lists like Canada?

By all means then go ahead and vote for one of the Democrats who wants total government healthcare.
People here don't realize that with socialized healthcare you still pay for healthcare. And Euros pay more of their income than Americans.
People here don't realize that even with socialized healthcare you still get denied coverage and you still get as minimum care as possible.
People here don't realize that healthcare will always have to be at least financially neutral and insurers will always have a profit margin, even if you are insured by the state.
 
Thank god we don't have a giant over bloated bureaucracy in charge of healthcare.
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I wouldn't want to be waiting weeks to see my doctor like in those evil socialist commie countries with public funded healthcare.

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Thank you for proving my point.

Whereas Britain has single payer healthcare, countries like Germany and Switzerland don’t, and use health insurance and private healthcare.

(The chart also doesn’t show waiting times for specialists, which can easily be 6-12-18 months in some public systems.)

With mixed system like Switzerland and Sweden you would basically pay for bitch ass basic healthcare through your taxes, and then everyone who can afford it gets private insurance on top, so they don’t have to wait months to get seen. Congrats lil nigga, you played yourself and get to pay twice.
 
Surprise, surprise: Private healthcare means companies trying to earn a buck?

So what’s the alternative? Total government control? You want a giant bureaucracy running hospitals and clinics instead?

If you don’t like dealing with an insurance company, good luck trying to convince some government bureaucrat that the state needs to pay for your ozempic instead of getting some exercise.
Yeah seems to really not be working out for Japan, Netherlands, UK, Finland, etc., all of whom have a far better system than the US and people don't need to go into 3 generations of debt to get cancer treatment. I'm pretty conservative on a lot of shit, but it's pretty obvious that near total privatization of healthcare does not work because people should not be treated like a customer when it comes to healthcare. I am glad that this CEO got his ass shot because now it has become a lot more acceptable in right-wing circles to shit on the completely retarded system the US has.
 
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Great. And who’s going to pay for it? Healthcare spending was close to 5 trillion dollars last year.

Let’s pretend that a billion of that was pure profits by those mean insurers, so that’s 4 trillion dollar extra in the federal budget.

Do you want to pay 10.000$ more in taxes every year for a shitty system with waiting lists like Canada?

By all means then go ahead and vote for one of the Democrats who wants total government healthcare.
Lets start with diverting all social security money to General Healthcare. No new taxes. Repurposing of taxes. Think smarter, not harder. Fucking euroswine wetbrain.
 
While I understand why no one has sympathy for Thompson, I've decided that I can no longer celebrate his death. It's become clear to me that the health insurance bigwigs have learned the wrong lesson from this, and will now focus more on protecting themselves than helping people. They'll justify bonuses and pay raises by saying they need to pay for security. This is why violence is not the answer.
And also for anyone else who thinks this event is just isolated or are cynical about things ever improving or that "our masked friend" (he doesn't have a name so far) didn't achieve anything...
  • AFAIK Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield announced it was going to start being gay about anesthesia coverage in November (they said they would no longer cover anesthesia after a certain time period in some situations).
  • As a result of this shooting someone on tweeter posted about Anthem's decision and kind of implied it had just happened
  • People on tweeter retweeted the story a bunch of times and it got so much attention that Anthem backed down
  • Because of that attention there is now there is a bill proposing to "ban insurers from limiting anesthesia coverage"
  • (If "our masked friend" hadn't done this then none of this would've happened because they first announced this back in November)
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A new House bill would ban health insurers from imposing arbitrary time limits on patients under anesthesia — days after Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield only backed off the move amid outcry.

“We cannot trust insurers to do right by doctors and patients out of the kindness of their hearts,” Rep. Torres (D-Bronx), who is sponsoring the bill, told The Post.

“There is a need for legislation that prevents any insurer anywhere in America from micromanaging the length of anesthesia care in a medically necessary surgery,” Torres said. “The purpose of medicine should be to prevent pain, rather than cause it through the denial of anesthesia.”

The congressman’s “Anesthesia for All Act” would prohibit health insurers from determining how long a person can stay under anesthesia, threatening to withhold reimbursement if they go beyond it.

Anesthesia keeps patients from feeling pain during surgery or other procedures through heavy sedation or being temporarily put to sleep.

The proposed law would ensure reimbursement for costs is based on medical necessity as determined by the attending anesthesiologist and prohibit insurers from denying payment solely because the length of surgery or care exceeds their pre-set limit.

The furor over Anthem Blue Cross Shield’s aborted cap erupted about the same time that UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was gunned down and killed in front of the Hilton hotel last week.

Major kudos to "our masked friend". He certainly risked a lot and had to do something a lot of people probably never would've ever wanted to do in their life but in doing so has already brought attention onto things like this and hopefully will result in meaningful, positive change for people.

Thank you "our masked friend" for your sacrifice. May you fade away peacefully into the ether and enjoy a long and happy life.
 
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People here don't realize that with socialized healthcare you still pay for healthcare. And Euros pay more of their income than Americans.
Plus you get to pay twice. I live in Europe rn and have private healthcare on top of my taxes so I can actually see a doctor without waiting a week, or get treated in a matter of days or weeks instead of months.

People here don't realize that even with socialized healthcare you still get denied coverage and you still get as minimum care as possible.
Americans really don’t know how shitty some of the alternatives are. You can’t even GET AN AMBULANCE without approval here. If they judge you’re not sick enough for one, they’ll tell you to take a taxi.
People here don't realize that healthcare will always have to be at least financially neutral and insurers will always have a profit margin, even if you are insured by the state.
Healthcare is hard. Guess Americans, including Kiwis, are angry but don’t really understand how healthcare works in other countries or have tried a different system.
 
To be level-headed for a moment, killing this guy might send a message, but is United Healthcare damaged by this, really? They can just pick another guy to be CEO, what does he need to do anyway?
All health insurance stock dropped following this incident. And most big companies are scrubbing CEO personal data of their websites.
In a mass market like the US it isn't even so much about doing things but about how the general population perceives things. And since people like dead CEOs right now companies are gonna respond by being less in your face about it.
 
Are you suggesting the appropriate way to assassinate someone is to confront them to their face, throw a gauntlet down and invite them to duel? Idiot.
If we were discussing two men of honour then perhaps this would be the way to go. We are discussing one man and one parasite, however, and the parasite was shown exactly the amount of respect he deserved.
 
Americans really don’t know how shitty some of the alternatives are. You can’t even GET AN AMBULANCE without approval here. If they judge you’re not sick enough for one, they’ll tell you to take a taxi.
That's some low level of shithole. I've seen people call an ambo for stupid reasons and still get it. It took a while for it to get here cause they aren't gonna send the A team with the lights running but it got there.
 
All health insurance stock dropped following this incident. And most big companies are scrubbing CEO personal data of their websites.
In a mass market like the US it isn't even so much about doing things but about how the general population perceives things. And since people like dead CEOs right now companies are gonna respond by being less in your face about it.
That's good for the CEO's I guess.
I don't know why you think I care about the stock market.
 
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Great. And who’s going to pay for it? Healthcare spending was close to 5 trillion dollars last year.

Let’s pretend that a billion of that was pure profits by those mean insurers, so that’s 4 trillion dollar extra in the federal budget.

Do you want to pay 10.000$ more in taxes every year for a shitty system with waiting lists like Canada?

By all means then go ahead and vote for one of the Democrats who wants total government healthcare.
The average yearly premium for the affordable care act is $7,452 a year and coverage can still be denied, need pre-authorization, you still deal with the out of network nonsense. In Canada you pay more in taxes, and it doesn't matter if it's a broken arm, or heart surgery, you walk into the hospital and hand them your healthcard, get whatever treatment you need and don't end up with a bill for $50,000 or whatever portion your insurance decided they weren't going to cover. You also don't pay higher premiums because you have more family members, you pay your taxes on your income and your dependants are covered too.
The Canadian system isn't perfect, but people don't have to choose between getting cancer treatment and leaving their families with insurmountable debt, or just opting to die to save money.
In my experience the stories of wait times here killing people are scare mongering. Two people close to me who were diagnosed with cancer were started on treatment within two weeks of their diagnosis. When my friend's mom found a lump they had her into the hospital three days later to make sure it wasn't malignant.
 
There's such a thing as shades of grey and moderate healthcare reform you know.
Moderate healthcare reform sounds like a plan! Let’s have the government fix it!
American healthcare providers are acting in a complete free market and not a monopoly that the government also has it's hand in fucking up too.
Oh wait. That’s right, every time the government has messed with healthcare they fucked it up even worse.

Good luck having them make a system that doesn’t reward their captive interests. And if you need any Democrats aboard, you know they’ll make you pay for all the illegals as a minimum demand. Unless some shitlib judge demands it.
 
If you don’t like dealing with an insurance company, good luck trying to convince some government bureaucrat that the state needs to pay for your ozempic instead of getting some exercise.
THATS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE

This is part of the problem, they hand out unnecessary pills like candy for money as legalized drug dealers because it has better profits but then deny actual medical needs because it doesn't pay as well.

Much rather get a gym membership reimbursement then a daily injection.
 
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