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Is it over?

  • Yes, I am sad and need a Ben backrub :(

    Votes: 331 31.7%
  • No, we will be back, autism too strong

    Votes: 528 50.6%
  • Cams down until we roll into Bloodgames 2

    Votes: 184 17.6%

  • Total voters
    1,043
I want another mid season slop show like Bitch Tank. I'm thinking something like the Flava Flav's dating reality show but with Burt as the main guy. Instead of a mixed raced hoes, have a bunch of degenerate contestants. Maybe six all up. Run it for a tight two weeks with a minimal amount of crew and overheads. Maybe only have 3-4 rooms open in the house.

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I've been thinking more about the Burt dating show mini season.

Title: Love Burt's

Cast:

Burt - The main figure of the show. Contestants will try and win over Burt's favor and he'll be in charge of contest winners and eliminations. Where as Burt was the focus of ridicule in S3, in this he's in more of a faux power position where contestants are trying to win his favor. Burt would also be sitting on a golden chair through out the show.

Tai - Burt's right hand man and advisor. Tai would be there to guide Burt on what's going on in the show, give him honest advice, stop any of the contestants trying to manipulate Burt too easily. Tai would also be there to inject humor into the show and neg the contestants while building a comedic repore with Burt. I also thought having Frank Hassle in this role as an enforcer but that might break Burt's brain. Also Burt might not try and fuck Tai on the first day. I also thought Xavier would work well too.

Ben or Andrew Shultz - The shows host. He would be in charge of presenting the show, giving challenges to contestants, interviewing contestants and narrating what's going on.

Contestants - Six degenerate weirdos trying to win over Burt's favor to be the last one standing. I'm not sure what you do for a prize. Maybe do a cash prize of 10-15k? As for the cast, I'm not sure if you just have a cast of gay guys or have women or tranny's in the mix also. Since Burt is down for all types, it keeps the cast choice more dynamic.

Rooms: I'm thinking you isolate the whole show to the upstairs bedroom area. Either have all six contestants in Bedroom 3 or split contestants across room Bedroom 1 and 2 and have Bedroom 3 as a room for activities and challenges. If they do have everyone in Bedroom 3, I think they should have two camera angles like they had in Bitchtank. Maybe also put the high cameras with the zoom that are in the den into the bedroom. As for bedding, have the two bunk beds that could fit four contestants and two shitty mattresses on the floor to create competition with who's going to be a floor bitch and who gets a proper bed. Also I think they should put a camera and mic in the closet in B3 like they did in Bitchtank and make it its own space. You could even do an extreme Cell challenge and make six people survive in the closet. I've like to see the use of the TV screens used again in the rooms.

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Fish tank house floor plans I stole as a reference.

Another idea would be to have rooms that reward contestants. The reward room (aka Heaven Room) could be decked out with party lights, music, maybe a bar with booze and snacks where contestants could relax and only receive positive TTS and Fishtoys. The punishment room (aka Hell room) would be painted grey with no furniture, no heat or air con. Maybe just a piss bucket. Can only receive negative TTS and negative fishtoys. Maybe have Sam's AIDs Patient Zero comedy routine played on a loop.

As for Burt's room, he'd be in the Penthouse. They would deck it out and make it fancy for Burt. Contestants can have dates with Burt in the Penthouse where they try and win over his favor. Maybe they could get the hot tub working in Burt's room too. Burt's room is where he can also relax, interact with TTS and discuss his thoughts on each contestant with the audience.

I did have the idea of instead of using the upstairs bedrooms for the show, you'd use the Yard and Flat areas and just have the team build rooms using diving walls. That way you could build out a lot of temporary, small customized rooms that have different uses. But I have no idea how you would soundproof or run enough electricity to this space.

Challenges and activities: So I thought you could have general FT style challenges to fill the day for contestants where they can win Burt Bucks or some other rewards. But then you have a nightly which are more important and maybe used for things like immunity or eviction. I think these could be built around Burt's weird themed interests.

Who can be the best prison bitch - Burt is the top prison nigga and contestants have to be his prag and hold onto pocket.
Who can be the best firefighter.
Gay nightclub dance contest.
Coach Burt gym challenge.
Who can write the best parody song praising Burt (ala Stacy's Mom)
Who can tell Burt the best cozy bedtime story.

You could have a bunch of costumes with each theme and have Burt dressing up in weird scenarios like in S3.

Also I think viewer endorsements should come back and be displayed on the screens in the bedrooms. Each night, the highest endorsed Fish gets some sort of reward. This keeps fish to be constantly entertaining to win over the audience while also serving to constantly cause drama between the fish.

Other stuff: I think it be funny if the leaned into the male centric products thing and either faked having a bunch of male product sponsors or actually got some for real. Maybe a Fleshlight sponsorship lol. As for Freeloaders, I don't know if you would need them for this? maybe when fish get eliminated and numbers drop, bring in random freeloaders for 24 hours to stir things up.
 
The thing I hope for the most in season 4 is an improved voting system. I don't even think I need to go into detail of how badly voting this season hurt the show. I'd even prefer the season 1 "We are going to pretend this is a point thing but actually the least entertaining person goes home" thing they did.
 
Nick Mullen very briefly mentioned that he has been watching Fishtank on the latest episode of TAFS
Maybe he'll be a freeloader next season with his good friend Thomas
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Nick being the only freeloader on S4 but everyday his persona changes from Indian Guy, Gay Actor Michael Douglas, Jeff Goldbloom to Chinese jew.
 
it's done. (for the most part)


I'm going to need clarifications and I know there's going to be shit I'm missing. This is a 24/7 show and despite being an active fan, it's next to impossible to remember every little thing that has happened.

With that being said, I am extremely happy I have covered most of the shit with Burt that's important. I know, I still need to include his other shit outside of Fishtank but I can say for the most part, I'm good.

Thank you to this thread and Sneedchat for helping out with this thread. If I didn't have you guys to rely on, I'd be working on this forever. o7
 
The thing I hope for the most in season 4 is an improved voting system. I don't even think I need to go into detail of how badly voting this season hurt the show. I'd even prefer the season 1 "We are going to pretend this is a point thing but actually the least entertaining person goes home" thing they did.
The voting system was aids in S3, production didn’t intervene more when they knew the popular vote was going to kick interesting people. And that’s the inherent problem. They could have saved Simbal and/or Mizzy. There’s probably a way to implement contestant strategy but not have it turn into “okay let’s kick the most annoying person in the house”
 
Imagine if voting was present on season 1, Letty would've gotten voted off fast. While Binx turning the whole house against Simbal was kino, it nevertheless resulted in acting out being detrimental since if you were an antagonist you'd just get voted out, although Simbal did earn his hatred by being creepy and touching. Meanwhile Mizzy was disliked and got voted out but was nevertheless way more active than someone like Payton. If voting is going to remain going forwards then a fish that was active or interesting should be given immunity, forcing the others to also do shit and culling the less active or interesting ones by making them the ones eligible for being voted out.
 
First thing this bitch does is post a selfie for her simps
Fucking vile creature
Why does she make you seethe so much? Go outside, touch grass, etc. Binx seethers are unironically worse than Binx simps.

The original reason was vibes.
The official reason is "zoning issue."

If the actual reason was mold, they may not want to admit that because it could potentially be lawsuit material for anyone who got sick. So initially they just said vibes were bad, but then when the RV trip sucked and people started complaining that they should have stayed in the house, they tried to save face by saying they had to leave but still couldn't say the actual reason.

Alternatively, the real reason was vibes, but they made up "zoning issue" to save face. It had to be vague because they didn't want to get caught in the lie.
I was very enthusiastic leading into Famous House 2.0. The premise was really cool. But almost immediately I realized it might have been a mistake. Because there was a serious risk that the 4 characters who had been nurtured for a month up to that point (and to whom the audience had become attached) would now be overshadowed by the new fish. And this would undermine the whole show. Jet jokingly said at the end of week 4 that the new fish could potentially win Fishtank if the old fish got eliminated. But this would have been intolerable, even if some of those new fish were enjoyable characters. So I suspected they bailed on Famous House 2.0 after a few days because they saw that Binx and Payton were not living up to their expectations.
 
Imagine if voting was present on season 1, Letty would've gotten voted off fast. While Binx turning the whole house against Simbal was kino, it nevertheless resulted in acting out being detrimental since if you were an antagonist you'd just get voted out, although Simbal did earn his hatred by being creepy and touching. Meanwhile Mizzy was disliked and got voted out but was nevertheless way more active than someone like Payton. If voting is going to remain going forwards then a fish that was active or interesting should be given immunity, forcing the others to also do shit and culling the less active or interesting ones by making them the ones eligible for being voted out.
I don't think voting is all bad since it forces the contestants to think about scheming and alliance building. It really depends on how you design it.
Season 1 kind of managed to have its cake and eat it too by announcing that an immunity vote was going to take place sometime after Jon left, but which never actually ended up happening. I don't know if they simply forgot about it, but I feel like the intended effect had been achieved since by then an interesting social dynamic (Letty versus everyone) was firmly in place and ready to be exploited as the showed moved into it's more chaotic stages.

I'm thinking season 2 may have benefitted from some form of voting at some point just to get things moving. They kept chastising the fish for being too buddy buddy with each other, but the show never really provided them with an incentive to think about the social game.
 
The thing I hope for the most in season 4 is an improved voting system. I don't even think I need to go into detail of how badly voting this season hurt the show. I'd even prefer the season 1 "We are going to pretend this is a point thing but actually the least entertaining person goes home" thing they did.
Imagine if voting was present on season 1, Letty would've gotten voted off fast. While Binx turning the whole house against Simbal was kino, it nevertheless resulted in acting out being detrimental since if you were an antagonist you'd just get voted out, although Simbal did earn his hatred by being creepy and touching. Meanwhile Mizzy was disliked and got voted out but was nevertheless way more active than someone like Payton. If voting is going to remain going forwards then a fish that was active or interesting should be given immunity, forcing the others to also do shit and culling the less active or interesting ones by making them the ones eligible for being voted out.

That suggestion a while back about the audience voting for both who's the best and who's the worst and then kicking out whoever got the least combined votes [call it revealed nontent preference] seems like it could work well. Sure the audience could still game it but why vote for nontent?

Could even get the fish involved too with the same "vote for who I hate and who I love" system deployed in such a way to create more drama, just don't let them figure out that the audience drowns out their votes. Lying to them with "whoever gets the most loves OR hates gets eliminated" would stir up action/drama as fish try to place themselves and help shield the real voting system. Also, let them use fishbucks as extra votes in a hidden manner and fishbucks get an immediate "game" use that makes them even more desirable while helping further confuse any fish trying to learn the reality of the voting system.
 
Why does she make you seethe so much? Go outside, touch grass, etc. Binx seethers are unironically worse than Binx simps.
Calm down Bongzeripper.
no need to double post.
That suggestion a while back about the audience voting for both who's the best and who's the worst and then kicking out whoever got the least combined votes [call it revealed nontent preference] seems like it could work well. Sure the audience could still game it but why vote for nontent?
that still would have got Letty voted out.
I think Letty is just a great example on white voting does not work, you gotta have a character that fans and fish hate OR you gotta have a Burt that everyone loves.
S3 was very lucky that they kept putting off voting because people kept leaving or else you would of had like Alexis, Signal and probably Leron or Payton as a final 3 at that point. At the same time you cannot have production fully control it, Jet would have kept Brian all of S2 for example.
 
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Meanwhile Mizzy was disliked and got voted out but was nevertheless way more active than someone like Payton.
Leading up to the Mizzy vote, the fish had been told repeatedly that Burt was the audience's favorite, which anyone with even half a brain would know that made him a favorite to win, they could have banded together to vote him out because no way would Mizzy win, but they were too retarded to figure that out. Meanwhile in FH2.0, the normies were ready to vote Burt off immediately because of how weird he is, Binx literally saved the show by steering them towards Simbal.

Fundamentally Fishtank is not a normal reality show and it should not have voting eliminations, period. Jet even kinda acknowledged that (although he refuses to fully admit voting is flawed and should simply not be done at all):
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Now, when it was Famous House 1, voting was necessary because they had to pretend to be a real reality show. Luckily they had Ian who was so boring it was an easy first elimination, and we should all remember how great that elimination was, where Sam made Alex and Ian both pack their stuff, only for Alex to drop to the ground when Sam told him he was safe. I think the wiggers still had "uhhhh we have to have voting" in their head from Famous House, not making the obvious realization that voting is fucking retarded in Fishtank rules. Did they not remember the complete lack of voting in season 1 and 2? They could simply make the show 4 weeks which would be an easy fix but that's two weeks of paypigging they'd miss out on so I doubt that'll happen.

Without hard rules on what to do and what not to do, and a serious 6-week plan with multiple contingencies, every Fishtank season will fall apart in the last 2-4 weeks, as we've seen literally every season so far.
 
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