Sweet Baby Inc. and the Steam Curator Group Conspiracy - The company that is responsible for the diarrheic video game writing.

[X Prime]

I was told, repeatedly, that Matt Walsh and Tucker Carlson don't matter, that the right has never pearl clutched about video games. The Satanic Panic? Justified. Jack Thompson? Secret Democrat. And now here we are.

You were told something vaguely resembling those things, by me, because they are true. Minus such things as the "secret" part and the "never" part. Much like you were also correctly informed that the British perspective on video games is irrelevant, because Britain is irrelevant.

Don't misrepresent what people have said to you, it's pathetic. What you were actually told was that the right-wing never had institutional power worth a damn so bitching about them is pointless.

 

[harmy.kook]

Project 2025 I think? I doubt they would do anything tho.

That's all what this really is: TradCath larpers throwing a shit fit at the moment of any slight win.

It's the same reason why people rejected Matt Walsh's support a couple months ago when he tried offering his "support" because him and his ilk are the ideal Conservacucks.

This is on top of the fact that Project 2025 is a fedpost meant to bait retards into touting it like it's some new Magna Carta.

This is also without mentioning that Trump has denounced Project 2025 several times now.

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

This is on top of the fact that Project 2025 is a fedpost meant to bait retards into touting it like it's some new Magna Carta.

This is also without mentioning that Trump has denounced Project 2025 several times now.

this was an important talking point used to try to bolster Biden and then Kamala's chances at defeating Trump, im half convinced the Heritage Foundation is a glow-op with fake Conservatives trying to push their morality to the absolute extreme to scare your average voter into going Democrat, regardless in terms of Gaming, you are going to see Trads and Coomers divide continue to intensify, with Trads accusing people who want hot chicks in gaming to be rapist degenerates and coomers calling trads pussies or whatever, in the next 10 years I think we see incremental change in terms of AAA Game Development but its not going to go the way of the 90s

 

[Corette]

this was an important talking point used to try to bolster Biden and then Kamala's chances at defeating Trump, im half convinced the Heritage Foundation is a glow-op with fake Conservatives trying to push their morality to the absolute extreme to scare your average voter into going Democrat, regardless in terms of Gaming, you are going to see Trads and Coomers divide continue to intensify, with Trads accusing people who want hot chicks in gaming to be rapist degenerates and coomers calling trads pussies or whatever, in the next 10 years I think we see incremental change in terms of AAA Game Development but its not going to go the way of the 90s

What games are there for trads to endorse?
Besides You Testament?

 

[Judge Dredd]

You were told something vaguely resembling those things, by me, because they are true.

I've heard it a bunch of times, on KF, and outside of it. While we might disagree on things, you and @SSj_Ness (Yiffed) are at least articulate.

This is on top of the fact that Project 2025 is a fedpost meant to bait retards into touting it like it's some new Magna Carta.

What the hell is Project 2025 anyway? I know broadly speaking that it's a document that lays out what some think tank wants Trump to do. But the actual contents of it vary depending on the source. I've heard it described as Q Anon for lefties. The only video I've seen on it that makes sense is MentisWave, and his general take is that it's ultra bland political reformist slop.

What games are there for trads to endorse?

This is what the tricky part comes in because the core issue is what the values are, and what do they actually want.

If they want Christian games made by Christians, then Scott Cawthon made these before he found success with Five Nights At Freddy's. Of course, going the path of indie don't work for a lot of groups as there's always some excuse. That excuse usually being that it's not popular enough. The real issue is having the option. If they cared about freedom of speech, they'd allow Stellar Blade and First Descendant to exist, but they're getting pissy about it because having the option offends them. This is why I think Melonie Mac is the big lolcow here. It she's an aging e-thot turned evangelical, then this is the old playbook of women who relied on their looks and sex appeal which has started to fade. It's an attempt to pull the ladder up behind them. Turn trad and ban the competition.

Then there's the values themselves. As pointed out in the Twitter threads that started all this. American Christians have no issue with hyper violence, but 50 second clip of a dancing womans arse sends them to the fainting couch. They will gladly applaud games like Doom Eternal, Call of Duty, and Resident Evil. ...At least for now. Because it's in their interest to do so.

 

[X Prime]

Doom Eternal

What? The one where God is the final boss like it's some JRPG tripe? That's news to me.

 

[Judge Dredd]

That's news to me too, but you've made the assumption that these activists actually play games.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I've heard it a bunch of times, on KF, and outside of it. While we might disagree on things, you and @SSj_Ness (Yiffed) are at least articulate.

I appreciate that.

I was told, repeatedly, that Matt Walsh and Tucker Carlson don't matter, that the right has never pearl clutched about video games. The Satanic Panic? Justified. Jack Thompson? Secret Democrat.

The right has certainly had its moments, but primarily to protect kids, like pushing for the formation of ESRB. Whether we agree stuff like that was good or bad, intent matters. Conservatives didn't want little Timmy seeing spines ripped out and scantily clad women, the left doesn't want little Timmy to be a boy anymore and to hate himself for being white.

And as mentioned by @X Prime even in the 90's the right didn't have anywhere near the influence over the industry the left does now, it's a stranglehold. It's just very different from every angle, the notion that woke is simply the other side of the coin is inaccurate.

 

[regalterry]

If they want Christian games made by Christians

Awful, awful idea - I have yet to see ANYONE, regardless of religion/ideology, make a good game while adhering to enough tenets to satisfy the most uptight members of the congregation.

Granted, you can have games that depict Christianity in a positive light (and what a sad state of affairs it is that they are a rarity) like Kingdom Come or Darklands, but I don't see how a game about Christianity specifically could be made engaging without offending someone, and we have plenty of examples of lame Christian games that are pale imitations of better titles constrained by the need to not offend.

but they're getting pissy about it because having the option offends them

I don't dare speculate why all these cuckservatives are suddenly coming out of the woodwork to stop the momentum that has been building over the past decade and more.

They seem to be a specific kind of retards (or controlled opposition, since Matt Walsh so loves to suck Jewish dick) because anyone with a functional brain would understand that what people are tired of is sanctimonious, ideological puritans and freaks ruining our fun.

And mind you, people in medieval times, who were far more religious, and took their religion far more seriously, also understood and tolerated a certain amount of sinful behavior, but also knew where to drew the line.

As people here often say, you can't fight human nature, nor should you attempt to do so, because you will always lose.

They will gladly applaud games like Doom Eternal, Call of Duty, and Resident Evil

Doom 1 and 2 used to catch a lot of flack because of all the Satanic imagery in them, despite the fact the games being all about killing demons, though attempts to censor them, Mortal Kombat and Night Trap were heralded by Democrats (two of them Jews) at the behest of Hillary Clinton.

 

[Not A Fed]

Anyone who advocates for censorship for any reason is my enemy. While I've become a bit more sympathetic to the anti-porn people as the years have gone by but I won't tolerate those views seeping into creative industries full stop.

Strap me to a rocket and launch me at anyone who wants to censor. I'm ready.

 

[Smashed & Slamed]

It's impressive how dogshit this thread has gotten now that all DEI/ESG/GayNiggerFromOuterSpace/ games are deader than dead and taking their devs and publishers with them. I guess the real tell of victory in these types of cases is when the discussion on the subject grows stale and pointless.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

If you think Whisper Quiet or Stellar Blade are too much titties, you're a homo.

Games should be good first, after that, if it's TnA, bring it on. If I have to look at a character for 30 hours, it may as well be an attractive female one.

 

[Judge Dredd]

It's impressive how dogshit this thread has gotten now that all DEI/ESG/GayNiggerFromOuterSpace/ games are deader than dead and taking their devs and publishers with them. I guess the real tell of victory in these types of cases is when the discussion on the subject grows stale and pointless.

Yes and no. I don't think it's got dogshit (I think this kind of thing would be better in the culture war thread, but that quarantined due to some particularly autistic people). It's just a different kind of informative/funny. Though I guess if you're in the Christian-trad-right whatever you want to call them, it's less funny.

I don't dare speculate why all these cuckservatives are suddenly coming out of the woodwork to stop the momentum that has been building over the past decade and more.

I do dare speculate.

They're not trying to stop the momentum, they're trying to capitalise on it, but have failed to read the room and have gone off half cocked and too early.

The Christian Nationalists, while hating Trump for not going far enough, also vote for him because he's on the right. They take winning the popular vote, as well as successes like getting abortion to be a states rights issue, to mean they have a mandate to make America a Christian nation, and see games as a vector for that.

As for their personal motives. Melonie Mac I already covered. The old "whore pretending to be born again Christian" grift to fend off competition. I'm don't know Dreadroberts, but my guess is wanting to bring about a theocrasy, or seeing the end of the line for their rage bait careers and looking to jump ship.

What's more, they have the self awareness to know bible thumping is unpopular. Because you'll notice their original posts don't mention god or Christianity at all. It's only in the replies when people try to engage in good faith do they bring out the bible verses and talk of the US being a Christian nation.


Speaking of which. Can someone versed in the bible tell me what Kings 2 is? Melonie tells people to read it for what will happen if they don't stop games like First Descendant from happening, but Google says Kings 2 is Elijah being taken to heaven in a whirlwind, which I don't think is the intended meaning.

And while we're on the subject, I thought a large part of the New Testiment was the whole "turn the other cheek" thing? It seems weird that Dreadroberts would claim he regrets being on SmashJTs side when they went after his wife, which seems unusually callous, especially since SmashJTs wife hasn't done anything.

Doom 1 and 2 used to catch a lot of flack because of all the Satanic imagery in them, despite the fact the games being all about killing demons, though attempts to censor them, Mortal Kombat and Night Trap were heralded by Democrats (two of them Jews) at the behest of Hillary Clinton.

Yes, but that was back in the 90s. I'm talking right now which is why I specified Eternal. When asked in the Twitter thread, he either didn't answer, or said he good with, ultra violence like Doom, Resident Evil (I think it was one of the modern ones) and God of War.

As you (and others) have pointed out, Christians hated Doom, claiming they caused school shootings. This is why I say they are fine with them for now, as it's convient for them.

 

[SpookyObserver]

If you think Whisper Quiet or Stellar Blade are too much titties, you're a homo.

Games should be good first, after that, if it's TnA, bring it on. If I have to look at a character for 30 hours, it may as well be an attractive female one.

Stellar blade literally was sold on tna and it is aggressively mediocre. Coomer shit is boring.

On Doom since cant reply to above post, as someone pointed out Dems wanted to crack down on games and a conservative strict constitutionalist led the pushback. The doom hate for shootings was less political and more generational/cultural. How many lefties say environmental factors would stop kids from stealing, bullying, or killing themselves from tranny shit? Hell they pushed that games make men rape, and not just youtube videos. They push studies that playing games makes us want to hurt people irl. This will always exist, im not exactly free of this when we talk about kids watching brain rot or grooming content on tiktok and such. The game shit is just another, more liberal application of that.

 

[big pauper]

The evangelical christian right has always been a bunch of sanctimonious, ideological puritans and freaks. same thing with the progressive left. they've been in a perpeptual slap fight with each other in america since the beginning of the temperance movement. control of pop culture and the zeitgeist has swung back and forth as certain ideas wax and wane in popularity. you could say they play the same role in the ecosystem of society.

banning violent video games came from the same era when they put "parental advisory" stickers on music, which was never about actually informing parents but just giving puritans the signal that they should act sanctimonius. the last straddlers of those people into the 2000's like Jack Thompson kept up the same act even though the political capital was gone. despite the real threat being gone, rockstar did specifically pay newspapers to run stories about the game's controversy, but it was just PR stunts by their PR team.

it's been a manufactured problem since like 1995 so anyone trying to counter-signal banning violent games are usually just as sanctimonious and hysterical. if it's coming back into style it's probably just the same woke moralists that make money on controversy trying to find new wounds to poke

 

[Smashed & Slamed]

Yes and no. I don't think it's got dogshit (I think this kind of thing would be better in the culture war thread, but that quarantined due to some particularly autistic people). It's just a different kind of informative/funny. Though I guess if you're in the Christian-trad-right whatever you want to call them, it's less funny.

The whole thread has devolved into sperging about Christians and reminiscing about the good old days when it was those damn Christians censoring games. Is this your fetish? Did you get traumatized by your mom not buying you Doom 30 years ago?
The thread is about a corporation funded by big business social engineering funds with what seemed at the time a complete strangle hold to push a narrative.
Do you live in an alternate world of Sweet Baby Jesus inc, funded by JP Morgan and educated by the Vatican?

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

Then there's the values themselves. As pointed out in the Twitter threads that started all this. American Christians have no issue with hyper violence, but 50 second clip of a dancing womans arse sends them to the fainting couch. They will gladly applaud games like Doom Eternal, Call of Duty, and Resident Evil. ...At least for now. Because it's in their interest to do so.

thats what bothers me about some aspects in the American Right-Wing, for all their talk about men needing to be alpha males, which is true, they were playing a completely different tune in the 80s and 90s where video game violence was turning Men into terrorists or whatever the fuck, what a lot of these Evangelical's refuse to realize is that violence, at least on some level is a masculine characteristic

 

[GameratePTSD]

The evangelical christian right has always been a bunch of sanctimonious, ideological puritans and freaks. same thing with the progressive left. they've been in a perpeptual slap fight with each other in america since the beginning of the temperance movement. control of pop culture and the zeitgeist has swung back and forth as certain ideas wax and wane in popularity. you could say they play the same role in the ecosystem of society.

banning violent video games came from the same era when they put "parental advisory" stickers on music, which was never about actually informing parents but just giving puritans the signal that they should act sanctimonius. the last straddlers of those people into the 2000's like Jack Thompson kept up the same act even though the political capital was gone. despite the real threat being gone, rockstar did specifically pay newspapers to run stories about the game's controversy, but it was just PR stunts by their PR team.

it's been a manufactured problem since like 1995 so anyone trying to counter-signal banning violent games are usually just as sanctimonious and hysterical. if it's coming back into style it's probably just the same woke moralists that make money on controversy trying to find new wounds to poke

Christianity hasn't been a serious cultural power at any point in your life. Christians weren't even the ones behind parental advisory stickers. That was an LGBT activist, but even so a tiny little sticker on an album is a quaint issue in the era of Wet Ass Pussy and Lil Nas X. That's the issue with you guys who try to compare Christians in the 80s and 90s to the left's ideology machine of today. Not only were the Christians mostly harmless and powerless, but they were right.
Those "sanctimonious, ideological puritans" tried to warn us about people fucking their dogs and turning kids into gay strippers and you guys treated them like circus clowns. Now here we are in 2024 having debates over whether 13 year old girls should be able to get sex change operations and you're still doing your best Jon Stewart impression. Jack Thompson was largely treated like a joke, meanwhile you have multi-billion dollar industries completely at the behest of small groups of leftist true believers who get to tell these massive franchises what stories they're allowed to tell and what racial messages they should send.
You guys, and by you guys I mean progressive leftists because that's what you are at heart, got your way for decades and carried out the stupidest and sickest social experiments on the population which retarded Western culture and art to the point it will take a lifetime to recover, if it ever does, and you're still not getting it. Since the 2013 "Social Justice Warrior" era you people started to become too embarrassed to publicly identify as "progressive" anymore so you've been performing the sensible centrist role all these years, but the second you thought you felt a little bit of cultural power slip away from the progressive left you're right back to the corny Christopher Hitchens shit, even after all you've seen and experienced.

 

[big pauper]

I don't know why you think anything about that post has anything to do with what i said. jack thompson was a democrat and the entire "parental advisory" sticker thing i was talking about was started by tipper gore...Al gore's wife.

 

[Shieldman]

The evangelical christian right has always been a bunch of sanctimonious, ideological puritans and freaks.

I'm filthy latin scum, so I don't quite understand a few things. How come gringos are so shell-shocked over Christian right "oppression"?

I vaguely know about the satanic panic, and school shootings and how things like horror movies, metal bands, d&d or "violent videogames" often became publicly decried.

But all those things not only continued existing, but thrived. So on some level I feel like people are panicking over something that had hardly any effect at all (and probably not even born for).

Like if I could wave a wand and reset the socio/political and hobby worlds to be identical to late 80's to late 90's I would in a second.

The current left domination feels 1000 times more destructive, because when the crazy kicked in, they had their hands in all the pies and didn't have to break a sweat to fuck everything up.