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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
No problem with actual refugees who are escaping death as long, as apparently stated, they return home when it is finally safe for them to do so. I understand the argument about not stopping and staying in the first safe country you get to (which many Syrians did actually do), but if I was in that situation and I had the means to, I also would try to get to a country where I felt I had the best chance or family/personal connections in already to continue my life

I await with baited breath to see how many of them actually do go back to Syria however.
 
I'll be the asshole and say I really don't care about foreigns dying. Nor would it bother me to send them back. Good on the ones that go back of their own choice; but they shouldn't be here anyway; they have no claim to come here, and I don't care if they all die. I get why they won't agree, but I also don't care about that either.
 
I hope if our positions were reversed someone would take me and my surviving child in and try to help me survive. As long as I hope for that, I do not have the hypocrisy to say I want my country to refuse everyone and anyone who turns up on its doorstep desperate and asking for help.
There is a difference between accepting women and children, and accepting the infinite hordes of adult men.

There is also, and my pet peeve, a difference of this woman and her spawn then going on to pontificate on how everything offends her and we must all change our lives to accommodate her and her children's beliefs.

I'm actually approaching the stage I would reject these people too, because the hand that gives has just been bitten one time too often and I don't want to wait twenty years for them to grow up and decide they need to murder Godless heathens.

I'm a non white migrant who has lived half a dozen places in the west and adapted to each of them in succession, but I'm fucking really done with this shit.

Wasn't it one of the Trump's who said that "I've got a big jar of sweets here and only one will kill you, would you like some?" or words to that effect?

They're right.
 
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On assisted dying - the NHS accidently kills people far too often, giving them the ability to deliberately kill people is insane.

Add into the mix foreign (limited English) NHS staff and our mini dark age where science is obscured by ideology - it should be a resounding no. We are simply not in a fit state to have this law. It feels incredibly rushed as well.

Thinking about Letby - regardless of whether she did it or not, that's 17+ babies who were either deliberately or accidently killed. Either way the NHS tried to cover themselves until it got too obvious. Covering your back is something we cannot legislate for and by devaluing life it will become even more rampant.
They also intentionally kill people using the Liverpool "Care" Pathway, where they decide a patient is due to die soon, load them up on midazolam and withdraw food and fluids. It's a known thing and has been happening for years.

They tried it with my Grandmother. Decided the End Was Nigh and tanked her up on sedatives. We got this decision overturned, bought her home and she lived another 10 years in relatively great health (minor arthritis, at the time they decided she was dying she had pneumonia but responded well to treatment once off the tranqs. She had a decent social life, would go to a luncheon club three times a week, played bridge, liked to "read" via audio books, loved Classic FM and her grandchildren and spending time with them).

The NHS already kills people they deem unworthy of continued treatment and they get it wrong, all the time, however because it's the public sector they categorically refuse to accept liability and they close ranks to ensure there's never any responsibility taken ever.
 
The NHS already kills people they deem unworthy of continued treatment and they get it wrong, all the time, however because it's the public sector they categorically refuse to accept liability and they close ranks to ensure there's never any responsibility taken ever.
The NHS is a scourge on the British public and I can't wait for it to collapse.
 
Honestly as someone working in the NHS I cannot wait to see the collapse too. I expect something similar to it will happen with denistry but I am worried about the good hospitals because the transition to an insurance based model will be brutal. I have worked at some of the best hospitals with brilliant staff and an excellent turn around. I expect these places to be beacons for skilled people and then the lesser skilled will be at the less notable facilities. I give it about 5 years or less.

I have lived around Eastern Europeans for most of my life, they are honestly pretty solid and most make great attempts at intergration along with being informative especially the women. I have talked a lot about their opinions on our country and Ukraine etc and they are all pretty candid.
 
In a shocking turn of events, the BBC have done something resembling actual investigative journalism for once, and reported on an apparent scheme by Severn Trent water to use the most jewish of accounting tricks to essentially conjure £1.5billion for the books: https://archive.is/LW97r

The complex accounting trick started in March 2017 when a shell company, with no money or assets, called Severn Trent Trimpley was set up as part of the group. Another Severn Trent company called Severn Trent Draycote - which owns the water company - agreed to buy Trimpley for £2.
Trimpley then issued additional shares and Draycote bought them for a staggering £3bn.
No money actually changed hands, however, as Draycote paid Trimpley with a £3bn loan note - effectively an IOU. But, on paper, Trimpley immediately appeared to be worth £3bn because it had the IOU.
Severn Trent Water then acquired 49% of Trimpley - and that investment was valued in the water company's accounts at £1.47bn. A hugely valuable asset appears to have been created for Severn Trent Water out of thin air.
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the BBC have done something resembling actual investigative journalism
Credit to the BBC, they've been doing a significant amount of this recently. I cannot think off the top of my head, but I know I've noticed a lot of very good original investigation work on their news pages. I think the exposure of a boat smuggling gang in Germany was a big one recently, which actually led to arrests and convictions.

It's restoring my trust in the BBC if they're actually going boots on the ground which none of our other domestic 'news' organisations seem to do anymore, instead they just copy and paste from Reuters.
 
It's restoring my trust in the BBC if they're actually going boots on the ground which none of our other domestic 'news' organisations seem to do anymore, instead they just copy and paste from Reuters.
May want to double check Private Eye didn't do the leg work first. Would not be the first time the larger media organisations shove them aside and start caring about stories. Know Private Eye was taking a pop at that company's bonuses about 6 months ago.

Hislop needs to crack and embrace a KiwiFarms format so old articles are possible to dig into by people outside of his underlings.
 
So, if countries within the EU can do this... why can't we?

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Because when they naturalise they will hopefully vote with the Labour whip.

The problem is, that horse is long out of the stable thanks to October 7th. They will vote left wing, and they will vote for the Worker's Party because Labour didn't call for a pogrom.
 
Hislop needs to crack
Hislop needs to be cracked. He is the most dishonest journoscum around. He uses his paper to settle personal beefs. Not to mention he knew all about the BBC and the people who they have employed, yet never blew the whistle. Should check out that HIGNFY ep with Savile on.
Remember "it was an open secret".
 
Hislop is a bit of a weirdo. His crusade for free speech is limited to his own speech and he’s happy for other people to be locked up.
Hislop put his and the eye's entire weight behind Wakefield's retarded, fundamentally unscientific MMR scaremongering, the fallout from which has made the study of vaccine side effects so utterly toxic that nobody is willing to risk even mentioning the idea, out of the fear of being branded a vaccine denier pariah. There's a direct line from that to the rona madness. He can hang with the rest of the media-political class.
 
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