UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot outside Hilton hotel in Midtown in targeted attack: cops - Just Part and Parcel of visiting a Big City

[Breadbassket]

Follow the money. Troons require constant expensive hormone therapy. Post-op troons often have follow-up issues that require yet even more surgery. Troons develop debilitating diseases that need expensive medicine. Troons become depressed, and then they require buttloads of antidepressants. Troons often have painful complications that require life-long painkillers and leave them addicted.

In a word: they're the perfect healthcare patients.

That's more of an ideal "customer" for hospitals and pharmaceutical companies. On the other hand the best person an insurance business would probably like to have is someone who pays for their services year after year but never uses them.

 

[Buster Scruggs]

People who will literally fall apart if they don't keep making appointments and filling prescriptions.

Not just that, they are literally brainwashed into believing all the expensive experimental surgery and medicine is “perfectly safe and reversible”. They’ve got the troons believing everything they say like it’s a religion, if it’s not based in actual science, they don’t care because it’s how you feel inside that matters to them. “People’s feelings are what REALLY matter, CHUD! Now give (((the healthcare))) system all your money to feel like your inner self, children!”.

 

[young chestnut]

I know this thread has moved on but on the topic of "value based care"...

The point is to pay out to providers based on "quality of care" and "health outcomes" rather than per service. It's true that some doctors tack on needless services to squeeze extra money from consumers and insurance companies but just think for a second about the perverse incentives here. Now things that might work but might not work may or may not be covered, as always, but instead of your insurance company standing in the way and being the bad guy, your doctor just doesn't want to do it because it might fuck with the metrics their money relies on.

Seems like the main idea is to transfer some of the insurance company's administrative costs of denying you coverage over to the hospitals and doctors who will have to increase their administrative costs to fill out all of the forms to prove they're providing "quality care and good outcomes".

Depressingly, it probably doesn't actually change much at the consumer end.

Before: your dr wants you to get surgery, insurance doesn't want to cover it because it doesn't always work, you probably don't get the surgery

After: surgery is an option but your doctor doesn't want to do it because it might not have a good outcome and they won't get paid, you probably don't get the surgery

Edit: spelling

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

The gun and fake ID are pretty damning

I agree. But people want to believe that the government will go to any lengths to maintain the semblance of control and will plant that shit to make it seem like they "got the right guy" and I see no point in arguing over it. It doesn't really matter except that if the guy's motive is back pain it's a little less dramatic than, say, a kid who died because of insurance refusal of imaging or something.

I thought they had him as soon as I saw the photos of him without a mask. Shooting someone down on the street where there's more cops and recording than anywhere but Federal Triangle in DC seems like the kind of decision not taken by someone who is as much of a ghost as people wanted him to be.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

It's true that some doctors tack on needless services to squeeze extra money from consumers and insurance companies

And a lot of that is a vicious cycle
Doc knows insurance will only pay half what he asks? Okay ask for twice.
Need to argue with the insurance for payment? Throw in pay for the secretary doing the arguing.
Which then means the insurance end gets worse.
Etc

 

[just Reading a post]

will plant that shit to make it seem like they "got the right guy" and I see no point in arguing over it.

So what happens if they run through that and then all of a sudden the real guy kills again and shows proof it is him. You don't just look evil, you look fucking dumb as fuck to the general public you want to control. Questions start, the guy loges an appeal and you have to let Luigi go. With disident anti-gov media making his story go viral. You lose even more of a grip on the society as people start looking in to you and could shake something damning out of the tree.
You really overestimate and big up these guys to a level of untouchability, that it is unreal.
All these CEO types and shit are currently shitting bricks hoping for no copycats and making their employees sign "Pledges" to not leak their faces and names,in shakey hand emails.

 

[George Lucas]

The gun and fake ID are pretty damning

Was the gun identified as THE gun or just the same model?

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

If that is indeed his manifesto he's right; American Healthcare is only designed to treat the symptoms and not the causes, and just prescribe drugs and surgeries endlessly. This is what Bobby Kennedy and Casey Means have been saying.

But like Uncle Ted, while his theories have merit, the methods he used to draw attention to them will make them wrong and discredited. The medium is the message, and like Ted, the message is death. This will be twisted by the left and Big Pharma and the Healthcare Industrial Complex to discredit MAHA, which they will say radicalized him.

Take your pills, citizen. Experts know best.

 

[Niggs Monaghan]

I made a shitty meme

 

[Dumbspectator]

Yeah it seems like he had a severe depression hit him post the surgery, and that he was suicidal, and that his underlying political beliefs and personal troubles with surgery probably made him come to the conclusion of: I’m gonna off myself might as well take this guy out since I’m dead anyways.

He probably considered taking out others, and going down in a shootout with the cops. Maybe he was hoping to just run for as long as possible until he ran out of cash and then an hero himself.

 

[JoeBidenSniffMe]

1:50:48
Nothing like having left wing idiot saying they are scary and talking about banning 3d printed guns and infringing about our 2nd amendment right. Too lazy to clip it, but is the time stamp and link.

 

[Terrorist]

DVD box for some bullshit produced by daily wire that nobody gives a shit about

Silly Luigi, that foreign currency could've helped fund Lady Ballers 2!

 

[patfan]

They diagnosed my mother with severe neuropathy

Now my own chronic back pain wakes me in the night

It sounds like his mother had diabetes and he has back problems from deadlifting with bad form, both of which would have probably been preventable by not being fat and not lifting like a retard. I sympathize with him a little less now tbh.

 

[RussianBlonde]

Everybody's saying "he had to flirt with the receptionist" I mean he probably had to pull down that mask when he was checking in. They will want to see your ID and make sure it's yours photo on it. That applies to majority of hotels/hostels/motels etc.

 

[Umaibae]

Here's his mugshot

https://x.com/PopBase/status/1866258639486697671

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I normally despise Zoomers — but, uh, absolutely yes please and thank you.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

Going through this guys manifesto and other postings screams ivy league, edgy smug douchebag. Aka the mystique is going to evaporate on this story quickly. People are going to see this isn't some masked vigilante striking back at a corrupt system, but a "I'm totally better than you because I'm smart" lolcow.

I'm hoping more of his college work gets out because I'm betting there are going to be some real hot takes. For example, the Christianity paper is dripping with edgy atheism.

Either way, what a way to piss away a promising life. Especially when he was living large thanks to his parents.

I kind of agree, I think the drug stuff is accurate. Dude used lemma in his review. That’s pretentious cunt language.

Whether you think he’s a hero or villain for killing the CEO in cold blood, I get major fucking autist vibes from this guy. If his family is as rich as they are, I’m wondering how the fuck they didn’t just buy better insurance. They own or owned a Country Club. The larger family did anyway. I’ve known big wealthy families who had health issues happen, the brother or sister in charge who will typically help them get the care they need. Unless it’s some gay wop nonsense where they don’t want to look weak to their sibling.

Something doesn’t smell right.

 

[Vaclav]

Yeah this latest turn has given me a whiff of "Elliot Rodgers" off him. Just like a wealthy trust fund kid who looksmaxxes but is deeply unhappy because it's all not perfect enough.

I'm wondering how he and his mom could have had the cited bad experiences with UHC. As wealthy as their family is couldn't they afford Cadillac health insurance and/or pay out of pocket?

 

[JoeBidenSniffMe]

Everybody's saying "he had to flirt with the receptionist" I mean he probably had to pull down that mask when he was checking in. They will want to see your ID and make sure it's yours photo on it. That applies to majority of hotels/hostels/motels etc.

Yet, he is Italian and within his nature to have a long flirt with her.

 

[gampboonerisms]

All my homies at the park grilling with my boy. How could anyone accuse an Italian of any wrong doing.

 

[GlitchyMatrix]

Was the gun identified as THE gun or just the same model?

I heard it was homemade. This is the gun. To me it looks like he took the upper off a real gun and 3D printed the lower receiver. Magazine looks real.