UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot outside Hilton hotel in Midtown in targeted attack: cops - Just Part and Parcel of visiting a Big City

The arch number of this saga is 286. Write that down folks, two hundred and eighty six.

Pokémon Pokédex is #286
Proverbs 28:6 "Better is a poor man who walks in his integrity than a rich man who is crooked in his ways"
Final denial for insurance claims is 286
really though, what is this simulation shit? it reads like a movie script and repeats way too often for it to seem like just a simple coincidence
am i experiencing glow in the dark magic in real time?
 
Italians haven't been relevant in crime (outside of Italy) for many decades. They have no reason to be. The Sicilians realized their American counterparts are embarrassing fags, then said Americans either found themselves arrested by the FBI or investing into legitimate ventures with their crime money.
Yeah, I think it highly unlikely, but the possibility does exist. Montreal still has Italian mob as a a force to be reckoned with, for instance.
 
Are you joking? He has a billion women fawning over him right now
Yeah but since he's in custody they can't actually do anything with him. That's the beauty of sexual fantasy, you don't actually have to risk anything to have it. It's why so many weebs are trapped in their own minds with their imaginary 2D girlfriends.
 
still not clear if he actually turned the guy in or it was the cashier - but its very clear from this that multiple people were able to ID him
I don’t get that. I would not have ID’d this kid based on what the NYPD released. But I also mostly mind my own business. Americans are just always so up in everyone else’s business and now we lost a folk hero. Great job Karen.
 
Okay. Bear with me. I don't even believe this, but it's a vague possibility. Maybe this is is mob related. Granted, the mob isn't what they used to be, but partially that's because the big players have left the criminal end to niggers, spics, Russians etc. and have "cleaned" themselves. Perhaps the cleaned money is heavily invested in healthcare and this is related to that, or this is to get one of their people into prison to deal with something there.

Anyhow, I don't think this is likely true, but it is a possibility.
I hear your mob related and raise you Russian agents fomenting destabilisation.
Far fetched? They did just get busted for paying half a dozen right wing bloggers to parrot Kremlin propaganda on their channels.
Who’s to say this guy didn’t strike up an online conversation and was encouraged to do something radical.
Americans shooting each other in a way that makes the news is the desired outcome, the ins and outs don’t matter a whole lot.
It might explain the bag of money that is suddenly his sole concern to deny.
 
This may have been posted already but I'm not reading 250 pages to find out.Source
Thank you for this. I'm glad I didn't have to look 50 years to satisfy my curiosity.
no 3d printable suppressors that allow you to use a booster which would be required to cycle correctly when using a tilting barrel like the glock.
This is the weirdest part for me. It's been confirmed to be a 3D suppressor by a couple sources, but shouldn't the weight of a 3-D printed can be negligible? I was more surprised it didn't explode or poop out.
Sorry for my ignorance if this isn't the case. Not really familiar with firearms.
I just find it hard to believe that the suppressor would be the issue instead of inexperienced gunsmithing/lack of troubleshooting beforehand.
I assume that combination of shitty aftermarket slide and 3D-print lowers without extensive use could have fitment issues that caused the jam?

I mean, think about it a little bit. I don't think this guy is retarded.
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Still, it seems like he trained with the knowledge it was going to jam every shot based on the footage.
I assume he didn't believe that's how firearms should work, so why didn't he fix this issue?
It's not like he couldn't understand how a firearm works, right? He built robots for fun in high school.
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I'm sure there's gun threads out there about troubleshooting issues.
I'm sure an Ivy League Grad with a master's degree has used the internet to research something.
Wouldn't a bit more research into firearms, the weapon you are using to kill someone, be a bit warranted?

I don't really see any other way the gun could jam.
It didn't seem like he used any subsonic ammo either, due to the lack of news coverage on the round itself.
I'm surprised he didn't use hollow points either, if he knew that he wouldn't have many shots to get off.
Either he fucked up his homemade suppressor (or the design was flawed), or gave up fixing his bolt action glock clone?

Source for information on Mangione
 
Man, I'm glad that I'm retired. Talking to dudes that are at UHC and other similar insurance/healthcare places, the stress level is through the roof, staffing issues are starting to crop up as the smart guys and hypersensitive ladies start heading for the door, and 100k/yr managers are all acting like it could have been them.

It would suck to be stuck trying to take up the slack.
 
Italians haven't been relevant in crime (outside of Italy) for many decades. They have no reason to be. The Sicilians realized their American counterparts are embarrassing fags, then said Americans either found themselves arrested by the FBI or investing into legitimate ventures with their crime money.
We should bring back organized crime is what you're saying.
 
Italians haven't been relevant in crime (outside of Italy) for many decades. They have no reason to be. The Sicilians realized their American counterparts are embarrassing fags, then said Americans either found themselves arrested by the FBI or investing into legitimate ventures with their crime money.
Oh they're still relevant, but they have like 10-20% of the American organized crime market (depending on which city/state you're talking about) instead of 80+% like it was in the good old days
 
(Chicago) North Side businesses vandalized with ‘Kill your CEO’ graffiti
Chicago Tribune (archive.ph)
By Sylvan Lebrun
2024-12-10 20:04:50GMT
Three North Side businesses were vandalized with the phrase “Kill your CEO” over the weekend, Chicago police said.

The same three words were spray-painted in white onto the exteriors of “random” businesses, police said, including a comic book shop in the 5000 block of N Clark Street in Andersonville.

Faint letters reading “Kill your CEO” were still visible on the side wall midday Tuesday as holiday shoppers passed by the store’s colorful comic display.

The two other businesses vandalized were located in the 4500 block of N. Broadway in Uptown and the 5200 block of N. Sheridan Road in Edgewater, Chicago police said.

The graffiti seems to reference the recent murder of Brian Thompson, chief executive officer of medical insurance company UnitedHealthcare, who was fatally shot in broad daylight on a Manhattan sidewalk on December 4.

Suspect in the killing Luigi Mangione was arrested and charged with murder on Monday after he was found in Pennsylvania with a gun, a mask and a three-page document suggesting “ill will toward corporate America,” according to New York City police.

Chicago police believe that the recent vandalism all occurred at some point between Saturday afternoon and Sunday night. They are encouraging business owners to keep the perimeter of their property well-lit, maintain a working surveillance system and report any suspicious activity to the authorities.

No offenders had been identified and taken into custody as of Tuesday morning. Detectives are investigating the incident.

The Associated Press contributed.
Merch sellers cash in on UnitedHealthcare CEO killing
NBC News (archive.ph)
By Kat Tenbarge
2024-12-10 14:06:17GMT
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NBC News reviewed over 100 product listings that glorified the killing. NBC News; Getty Images; Etsy

On e-commerce platforms like Etsy, TikTok Shop, eBay and Redbubble, sellers are hawking merchandise featuring designs inspired by the fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

NBC News reviewed over 100 item listings for T-shirts, hoodies, stickers, mugs and even fake bullets and Christmas ornaments that bear the words “Deny,” “Defend” and “Depose” after bullet shell casings were found with those words on them at the scene of the crime (the word “Defend” was later clarified by the police to be “Delay”).

Some of the merchandise features drawings or images of the shooter taken from the initial video of the shooting. A suspect, Luigi Mangione, was charged with murder Monday. There has been significant online fanfare surrounding the shooting, with many people making light of the killing or outright celebrating it. The targeting of Thompson and the shooter’s message have been widely interpreted as a commentary on the state of the health insurance industry, with many people sharing stories of coverage denial, mistreatment and financial hardship they’ve faced within the system.

Thompson was a father to two sons. In a statement, his family called him an “incredibly loving, generous, talented man who truly lived life to the fullest and touched so many lives” and said he “will be greatly missed.”

The T-shirts and other merchandise join the swell of sentiment around the shooting. Many of the designs appear to be sold through print on demand, a business model that produces items only after orders are received, so sellers don’t have to keep inventory on hand. The freewheeling print-on-demand industry has continued to boom despite issues like rampant copyright infringement.

While many of the products just feature the messages left on the bullet shell casings, other designs more explicitly glorify or encourage violence. Some of the designs feature guillotines, guns and target symbols.

Etsy, Redbubble, TikTok Shop and eBay all prohibit selling items that glorify violence. In a statement, an eBay representative said "“eBay policies do not prohibit the sale of items with the phrase ‘Deny. Defend. Depose.,’ however, items that glorify or incite violence, including those that celebrate the recent murder of UHC CEO Brian Thompson, are prohibited.” Etsy, Redbubble and TikTok didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment.

While the expanding market for merchandise related to the shooting appears to largely be for-profit, with prices ranging from $2.99 to over $70 for a blanket, one seller told NBC News he plans to donate any proceeds he makes to a charity that assists people with paying their medical bills.

The graphic designer behind one version of the merch, Michael, spoke on the condition that his last name be withheld because he feared professional repercussions. In a TikTok video with almost 2 million views, Michael referred to a nickname some people online have started to use to refer to the shooter, “The Adjuster.”

“If we’re going to give him a badass superhero name, I think he needs a badass superhero logo to go with it,” Michael said in the video. He flipped and repurposed the UnitedHealthcare logo to feature an “A” and the words “Deny,” “Defend” and “Depose.” Michael is selling the design on two different T-shirts and two hoodies on Etsy, and he said he got more than two dozen orders in less than 24 hours, making it his fastest-selling design.

“I don’t personally believe in violence, but I have a problem with their entire business making money off people suffering and dying,” Michael said about the health insurance industry and his reasons for making the design. “I think health care should be free; I think a lot of people feel that way. Even though it’s not the way we’d go about it, we’re tired about not seeing anything get done.”

Michael said that it didn’t surprise him that the print-on-demand industry was capitalizing on what he considers an anti-capitalist movement but that he didn’t want to personally profit from someone’s death. He said he was inspired to create the design after he saw a flood of content on TikTok over the weekend that framed the shooter as a hero and an outlaw, including original folk songs about the shooting. Pictures of stickers and other artwork that said “Deny,” “Defend” and “Depose” at craft fairs over the weekend have also gained traction online.

“I always wondered why people root for guys robbing trains, and then you realize how corrupt banks are, and then you’re like, ‘I kind of get it,’” Michael said. “It says something about society that we can relate to the killer more than the billionaire and his family.”
How the internet cheered the UnitedHealth shooting suspect as a folk hero
Axios (archive.ph)
By Ivana Saric
2024-12-10 15:58:34GMT
Even before police arrested Luigi Mangione in connection with the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, some on the internet were hailing him as a 21st-century Robin Hood.

The big picture: Mangione's arrest has done little to slow the internet's lionization of him, but Thompson's death has spurred online vitriol toward the insurance industry and a tsunami of memes celebrating the suspect.
  • "Luigi Mangione serves face as he is led into court!" Luigi Mangione Updates, a fan account, wrote a post on X Monday alongside a photo of the suspect being escorted by police.
  • Another X user posted a winking joke about Mangione's Italian heritage, writing: "Luigi Mangione: i hata paying da premiums, i shoota da ceo" alongside a movie gif of Robert De Niro.
  • As more photos of Mangione began to circulate online, so too did a fancam video edit.
  • On Instagram, influencers and others looking for clout began tagging an account that seemingly belonged to Mangione, The Cut reported.
The latest: Mangione was apprehended in Altoona, Pennsylvania Monday and subsequently charged with murder in connection with Thompson's killing.
  • Law enforcement officials said Mangione was carrying a ghost gun and fake IDs when he was arrested, as well as a handwritten document that criticized corporations and health insurance companies.
State of play: Over the weekend, before Mangione was named a person of interest, the internet collectively swooned for the "hot assassin" after CCTV images showing part of his face were released.
  • Others cracked jokes after police discovered a backpack allegedly belonging to the shooter that was filled with monopoly money.
  • UnitedHealthcare was forced to turn off Facebook comments after a post about Thompson's death received more than 36,000 "laugh" reactions, the New Yorker reported.
Zoom in: After authorities said shell casings had been found at the crime scene etched with the words "deny," "defend" and "depose" — referring to tactics the insurance industry has used to avoid paying claims — the words became a rallying cry.
  • On TikTok, folk singer Joe DeVito went viral after posting a song with a chorus that included the phrase.
  • Merchandise, including sweatshirts, wine tumblers and hats emblazoned with the words, began making their way around online storefronts, though some have since been removed, the Washington Post reported.
Zoom out: The public's reaction to Thompson's killing has highlighted the avarice and inequality that many Americans believe is at the root of the country's health care system.
Brother of 'Unabomber' Ted Kaczynski: It's a 'terrible mistake' if Luigi Mangione was influenced by him
NBC News (archive.ph)
By Erik Ortiz
2024-12-10 19:58:09GMT
The brother of Ted Kaczynski, the domestic terrorist known as the "Unabomber," said Tuesday that he hopes the man accused in the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson didn't view his brother as a "key model" and is distressed that his brother's actions decades ago may motivate violence today.

For two decades, Ted Kaczynski waged a deadly bombing spree that killed three people and injured 23 others until his capture in the Montana wilderness in 1996. Kaczynski had taunted officials with a rambling manifesto and was apprehended following one of the longest FBI manhunts in history.

The suspect in Thompson's killing, Luigi Mangione, an Ivy League tech graduate, had reviewed Kaczynski's "Industrial Society and Its Future," also known as "The Unabomber Manifesto," in January, writing on the book review site Goodreads: "It's easy to quickly and thoughtless write this off as the manifesto of a lunatic, in order to avoid facing some of the uncomfortable problems it identifies. But it's simply impossible to ignore how prescient many of his predictions about modern society turned out."

But David Kaczynski said that his brother, who died by suicide in federal custody in 2023, should not be someone to aspire to.

"His actions are like a virus," David Kaczynski said in a phone interview. "They could be like a virus unless they understand he was a very angry and disturbed man. It doesn't mean his ideas are ideas of a lunatic, but his behavior, I believe, is the behavior of a lunatic."

To the extent that he may have attributed at all to sort of normalizing or recasting the violent acts as beneficial to humanity is a terrible mistake," David Kaczynski added.

Ted Kaczynski, a Harvard-educated mathematician, railed against technology in his writings and planted homemade pipe bombs — targeting universities, an American Airlines flight and others — from 1978 to 1995, federal prosecutors said. He wrote a 35,000-word manifesto against the "industrial-technological system" that he hoped would create a revolution in modern society.

Mangione, 26, graduated from the University of Pennsylvania in 2020 with an undergraduate degree in computer science and a minor in mathematics, while simultaneously earning a graduate degree in computer and information science, the school said.

He was arrested Monday at a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania, following a dayslong manhunt after Thompson's death last Wednesday. The 50-year-old CEO was gunned down in front of a New York City hotel in what the NYPD say was a "premeditated, preplanned targeted attack."

At a hearing Tuesday afternoon in Pennsylvania, Mangione chose to fight extradition to New York, where he would face second-degree murder among other charges. Bail was denied.

Before entering the courthouse, Mangione shouted toward reporters, "It's completely out of touch and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and their lived experience!"

NYPD Commissioner Jessica Tisch told reporters Monday that investigators found a handwritten document that "speaks to both his motivation and mindset." Further details were not made public, but NYPD Chief of Detectives Joseph Kenny added that Mangione appeared to hold "ill will toward corporate America."

In an NYPD preliminary analysis of the shooting, investigators said they are looking at whether the attack was the culmination of the suspect's apparent troubles and list of grievances, including that the murder was a "symbolic takedown" in a fight against corporate "power games."

Investigators also indicated he may have admired the past attacks of Kaczynski, and allegedly echoed his own concerns about technological advancement.

Mangione's Goodreads account said he had read 65 titles on topics ranging from Elon Musk to dieting. He rated Kaczynski's book four out of five stars. He also quoted "a take" he found online that he said was "interesting."

The online comment about Kaczynski read, in part: "When all other forms of communication fail, violence is necessary to survive. You may not like his methods, but to see things from his perspective, it’s not terrorism, it's war and revolution."

David Kaczynski was instrumental in helping to capture his brother. After The Washington Post printed "The Unabomber Manifesto" in 1995, David Kaczynski realized his sibling could be one of the FBI's most wanted fugitives and worked with the agency in his capture.

David Kaczynski said he understands that people, to this day, still may look at his brother's writings and find connection with his belief that rapid technological advancement is eroding human freedom. But violence, he added, cannot accompany change.

"I think we always have to remember that human motivation is extremely complicated," David Kaczynski said. "Many factors go into a person's motivation that they drastically act like this, and I hope my brother wasn't in a way a key model for him."

David Kaczynski declined to comment about his brother's death in prison in June 2023. Ted Kaczynski was serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole and had been diagnosed with rectal cancer when he died by suicide at age 81 alone in his cell at the Federal Medical Center in Butner, North Carolina. His autopsy, obtained by NBC News in April, noted he had been "depressed and sent for psychiatric evaluation" a month prior to killing himself.

"Just like acts of love can send out waves of benefit to other people, to humanity at-large in ways we can see and ways we can't see," David Kaczynski said, "acts of violence do the same thing, albeit in a very negative manner. It really gives me a great deal of personal pain to think my brother's actions have in any way contributed to influencing a man like this to kill an innocent human being."
 
I mean leftists will say he's exhibiting "toxic masculinity" with his photos of his physique while conservatives will say he's against capitalism and private healthcare.
Going off of his social media, Mangione seems more like one of those anti-establishment types that doesn't like the status quo but also has some ideas for how it should be fixed which other people may not like. He praised the works of Aldous Huxley, Tim Urban, Jonathan Haidt, and Ted Kaczynski.
 
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