The Australian totalitarian megathread - She won't be right mate.

No. The prime minister has no responsibility for the emergency services that deal with fires. His presence in the country was irrelevant, and his unecessary return was just used to attack him.
The prime minister does have a responsibility to look like he gives a shit and isnt retarded

Fucking off onto a holiday to hawaii while a large chunk of the country was on fire and then having to be dragged back kicking and screaming by the media made him look like he didnt give a shit and was retarded.

these are not qualities one looks for in a national leader and displayed a woeful political accumen

No one expected him to get out there on the fire truck and carry a hose, they did expect him to not be sipping mai thais on a beach
 
No one expected him to get out there on the fire truck and carry a hose, they did expect him to not be sipping mai thais on a beach
Also too, the bigger the emergency, the bigger the signature needed to get all the needed resources flowing. Underlings can file all the requests they want, but if massive amounts of national assets and relevant personnel need to be shifted hither and thither without delay, you need the veto power of the top minister to cut through the otherwise necessary checks and balances.

The Prime Minister isn't entirely a party figurehead, he's actually needed when it's fan-and-shit time. It's his fucking job. He's paid the big money to handle the big money. Going on holidays during a massive natural disaster spanning multiple states and costing dozens of human lives was a fucking dereliction of duty. Even if his only task at the time was to make some inspiring speeches, he still should have been there to give those speeches.

Again, it was his job. And leaving the country knowing well in advance that a particularly bad fire season was imminent was just stupid.

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This whole overreaction to antisemitism because people are not happy with the horrors Israel is doing is a massively retarded move. It's intrinsically based on linking criticism of Israel to every Jewish person. That every Jew is responsible when they aren't. It is creating blood libel and their intention is the opposite. They just think the threat of labelling something as antisemitic is a big scary thing so people will what? Just forget, not notice or pay attention to what Israel is doing?

It's all so retarded. Someone burnt down a mosque. We're meant to be outraged. Israel and its actions is every Jewish person according to the authority. So then what about the countless mosques that now look like this?

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Oh wait, we're meant to forget and not notice because we'd be a bad person and an antisemitic. It's just so fucking retarded.
 
I mean, unless this synagogue was materially assisting the ethnic cleansing or vocally supporting it within its own walls, it was burnt down because of the actions of jewish people across the ocean who these people have no control over.

You cant have it both ways, it cant be gay to be called anti semetic because you crititcise Israel, but also state so what if a synagogue gets burnt down look at what israel is doing,

(unless this synagogue and its community were materially or vocally supporting the ethnic cleansing, thus it falls under the fuck around and find out rule as far as im concerned)
 
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Was v upset Scomo didn't fly home asap and personally put out the fires that only started because we put abos and tards in charge of the national parks.
Suck him off harder, I'm sure he'll pay back the favour eventually.

Meanwhile, Dutton contines to be a duplicitous pro-Dindu faggot:
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God forbid the devious baby elephant (Rinehart) or her mates in the Business Council of Australia not make the maximum profit every single year.

We better not get any more "Christian" Syrian refugees either.
After the behaviour of their Leb cousins - who proceeded to shit on this country and chum it up with their Muslim counterparts - surely we've learned our lesson.
 
former glowie gets raided by his old mates
they started the raid off by telling him it was about Chinese intelligence operations but SYKE it was actually about something else
in a four corners interview he named a traitor as "Peacock" which was a codename, and the glowies thought he gave up the traitors real name
in reality it was a Canadian intelligence specialist named Dan Mulvenna who revealed the traitors name, and he got the name from Russian defectors
but it sure sends a message about bringing to light our more embarrassing intelligence fuckups, i dont think they liked that
Former intelligence officer Neil Fergus raided by ASIO and AFP after Four Corners appearance

In short:
A team of ASIO and AFP officers raided Mr Fergus's home and company office in Sydney in February.
Mr Fergus said during the raids, ASIO officers cited media reports in which he had made comments that were seen to be critical of the organisation.
He said ASIO officers told him it did not intend to recommend charges against him.
Mr Fergus said he was initially advised by federal authorities that the raids related to Chinese intelligence operations, but the subsequent interviews conducted with him by ASIO focused on his work for the organisation from the 1990s into the 2000s, when he conducted covert investigations to try to identify a "mole" within ASIO who had been working for the Russian spy service providing highly classified documents in return for money.
The ASIO mole was the subject of a Four Corners program, Traitor, in June 2023.
The program identified the mole as Ian George Peacock, a former World War II RAAF fighter pilot who became ASIO's supervisor of espionage in the 1970s and then volunteered to provide classified information to the Russian spy agency, the KGB.
Peacock became a so-called "precious agent" for the KGB, providing the agency with highly classified intelligence including top secret material from Australia's Five Eyes intelligence partners, the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand.
Mr Fergus was interviewed for the Four Corners story in his capacity as an international security specialist and CEO of Intelligent Risks, not as a former intelligence officer.
He told the ABC: "At this particular point in time when this ASIO mole volunteered his services and betrayed his country, he was of critical importance [to the KGB] … He was the first mole recruited in ASIO so they were deliriously happy."

On February 24 this year, more than a dozen ASIO officers accompanied by the AFP raided Mr Fergus's family home and the office of his company, Intelligent Risks, in Sydney's northern suburbs.
Mr Fergus has told the ABC the warrants for the raids appeared to relate to his work for ASIO investigating the Russian penetration, which he says was done under the authority of the then ASIO Director-General.
Mr Fergus says that during the raids he was questioned extensively about his involvement in the Four Corners program and accused of providing Peacock's name to the ABC, which both he and the ABC deny.
Peacock was identified in the Four Corners program by Canadian intelligence specialist Dan Mulvenna, who said Peacock's identity as a mole had been revealed by Russian defectors.
 
The prime minister does have a responsibility to look like he gives a shit and isnt retarded

Fucking off onto a holiday to hawaii while a large chunk of the country was on fire and then having to be dragged back kicking and screaming by the media made him look like he didnt give a shit and was retarded.

these are not qualities one looks for in a national leader and displayed a woeful political accumen

No one expected him to get out there on the fire truck and carry a hose, they did expect him to not be sipping mai thais on a beach
When he went on his pre-planned holiday, the fires were not of significant enough size to be anything like a national disaster.

You fell for the media slur hook, line and sinker, which is why I say that this one about Albo playing tennis is from the same playbook.

And leaving the country knowing well in advance that a particularly bad fire season was imminent was just stupid.
O crystal ball, tell me how bad the disaster will be so I know whether to go on holiday during the one time of year I'm likely to have a chance of resting!
 
former glowie gets raided by his old mates
Funny how the AFP show up everywhere with these raids. Possibly the worst law enforcement body in the country. You could easily go down a conspiracy rabbit hole of some kind in terms of Australia being a testing ground for other western countries with them, because the AFP were created following the Hilton Bombing in 1978. Empowering law enforcement bodies after terrorism, hmmm...
 
O crystal ball, tell me how bad the disaster will be so I know whether to go on holiday during the one time of year I'm likely to have a chance of resting!
Do you really not know how rainfall totals / soil moisture / fuel loading / known seasonal weather patterns / geographical data all tally together? Do you at least glance at the fire danger billboards when you drive past them?
 
When he went on his pre-planned holiday, the fires were not of significant enough size to be anything like a national disaster.

You fell for the media slur hook, line and sinker, which is why I say that this one about Albo playing tennis is from the same playbook.

is that you scott? Hows retirement going?

your telling me that the prime minister of australia was unable to charter a flight back to the fucking country when it became obvious we wer ein the middle of an ecological emergency?

the issue wasnt he went on holiday, it was that he was still on holiday while a large portion of the country was on fire.
 
I'm more than happy to cede that there was nothing wrong with him planning holidays when he did. Even the PM is entitled to them, and bushfire season can be unpredictable in both directions, but there became a point where it was distressing seeing him on on holiday while swathes of the country was on fire and an untold number of people were suddenly without home or prospects. I can only imagine how resentful people impacted by the fires felt upon seeing footage of him relaxing with his family in lovely beach weather half a world away.

Sorry but shit happens. He's entitled to his holidays but he held the most important role in our country. The math is pretty easy, and his advisers were either dogshit or ignored if they couldn't get him to fly back even if it was just for the optics. There are times optics matter, and times where they don't. It wasn't like it was principles or policies or something else of importance that prevented him from taking action... The cunt just wanted to sunbathe lol.
 
even if it was just for the optics
That's exactly it. Image is so important in building trust and rapport.

No one was asking him to hold a hose - we have firies, and people who live rurally (should) know what to do in a bushfire situation to protect their houses as best they can. No one expected Scomo to come back and join the CFA - people just asked where the fuck is our country's leader in extremely dire times.

God, not even to mention when he went to Cobargo and that woman refused to shake his hand - he grabbed her hand anyway. After this woman's community is on fire, people dying, losing homes and businesses etc, she's visibly upset and trying to stand up to the leader of the country. Ignores her trying to get him to commit to more money for the fire service, and just walks off lol.
 
I've lurked this thread for a long time but didn't post because I didn't want to out myself to a potentially speech hostile government but this triggered me too much. It wasn't just the cunt's holiday that pissed me off, it was his ignorance of the fire chief's repeated warnings months prior that the fire season was going to be bad and THEN he went on holiday during
said season, what the fuck nigger.


I had a family member claim that his ignorance was him chalking it up to climate change and refusing to listen but haven't been able to confirm that. In short I can't think of a cunt more deserving on nationwide scorn.
 
If I wanted a figurehead to speak reassuring words, I'd be asking the Governor-General, and perhaps even the monarch. That's a job for the head of state, not the head of government when that government doesn't have primary responsibility. The whole point of our system is that it doesn't rely on the head of government to do everything and be everywhere.

Morrison's biggest crime was that he never stuck to his guns. The level of vitriol he received only increased every time he changed his mind on anything. He will be little more than a footnote in history because anyone who changes their mind so much is not going to able to have an big impact on anything, but I also don't see why he deserves so much scorn compared to other basically unimportant leaders in our past. Don't any of you think it's just a little strange how amped up people - including yourselves - get about him?
 
We should sell the ABC, not just because it's far left and hates Australia, but because I can't think of a democratic country that owns such a large potion of the media. We're like China / North Korea in that regard. Maybe The Guardian wouldn't have to beg for money if they didn't have to compete with an organisation that was under no pressure to turn a profit with over a billion dollars a year in free money via the people they hate so much.
The ABC is Australia’s containment thread. The 2024 budget was $1.2 billion? I’d happily pay $10.2 billion to keep those spastics occupied and away from civilised society.
 
The ABC is Australia’s containment thread. The 2024 budget was $1.2 billion? I’d happily pay $10.2 billion to keep those spastics occupied and away from civilised society.
Problem is they believe that they are the civilised ones, and they want to 'civilise' barbarians like you and me. And our tax dollars pay for them to do that. We don't have a large enough population to support dozens of alternative media sites either unlike the US, so if we want to hear alternative sources on state or local politics especially, where on earth do we go?
 
We don't have a large enough population to support dozens of alternative media sites either unlike the US, so if we want to hear alternative sources on state or local politics especially, where on earth do we go?
I used to read The Australian quite regularly when I had a cheap subscription, which also has decent and factual coverage (though just on the other side of the overton window to ABC). I thought Adam Creighton was pretty good but everybody else was forgettable.

You raise a really good point though. I’m only aware of a few alternative voices which cover local issues, such as:
  • Independent Australia
  • Friendlyjordies
  • Michael West
  • News Weekly
  • The Catholic Weekly
What else is out there?

(Edit: I also found this blog which covers Aus politics shitting all over Adam Creighton lmao)
 
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Caldron Pool got whacked for being 'alt-right' a few years ago, but half of their articles about the US (probably for $ reasons).
 
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