UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot outside Hilton hotel in Midtown in targeted attack: cops - Just Part and Parcel of visiting a Big City

[Helvetia]

@High-Fructose Corn Syrup deleted, but here's a copy

Lol how quickly this guy's image has died off.
Now he's just a whiney little faggot. Big shit shooting a father in the back

ummm, I dunno about you, but he's still the top story on Blick, BBC, Sky News UK + AUS, Boston 24, NHL Network, Patriot FM, Le Monde, SSR, Al Jazeera, ChinaNews, Rodong Sinmun and the People's Daily.

And his image isn't going to die off. Because he's hot. Yummers.

 

[Goonbase Alpha]

It doesn’t matter if it’s absurd; as long as there’s no irrefutable proof that it’s fake the fact that it’s absurd means nothing. You could have Obama ritually sacrificing a child on film and if the experts said it’s AI you would have no way to prove that it isn't.

This is what’s keeping me so fascinated right now: at this point, we honestly still have no idea what his motives were in keeping all that evidence on him. Why was he so meticulous when going through with his plan, yet so sloppy afterwards? Is he just a scapegoat with planted evidence, or did he actually want to get caught? It’s just too early to tell.

The only thing we can really say for sure at this point in time is that the dude is extremely based, he makes all the right people seethe, and if some of the thirst posts I’ve seen are anything to go by, could probably make dyke pussy wet. A true American hero.

Edit: And as soon as I post this, I see that Helvetia’s post above mine confirms the third point as true and honest. You just can’t argue the facts.

 

[passionpoop]

sorry if late, but this is actually a thing that's been happening for decades. They advertise the reward but don't go out of their way to specify that you have to call the tip line and not 911 to claim the reward. Basically the way the reward works is based on who makes the arrest and how it is processed in the chain of custody.

If you call 911, your call gets forwarded to the nearest 911 call center and therefore to the local law enforcement. They then make the arrest and extradite the guy back to the jurisdiction that put it up. The reward is invalidated because the arrest was called into the local law enforcement agency and they didn't have a reward on it.

Well that's a bit shit.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

we honestly still have no idea what his motives were in keeping all that evidence on him

He was making a statement through the killing, and he is making a statement through his trial. He didn't try to hide, so he is bearing a truth to court, aka a martyr.

 

[Goonbase Alpha]

He was making a statement through the killing, and he is making a statement through his trial. He didn't try to hide, so he is bearing a truth to court, aka a martyr.

That certainly does seem like the most likely scenario at this point, but even still it’s just speculation for now. I’m sure it won’t be long before we get the full story.

 

[just Reading a post]

This is kinda why people should be cautious about cheering this kind of action on or wanting the course of justice to be perverted - in the moment it sounds great and like its the perfect reaction to a bunch of shit that has happened without enough attention for years. But it can venture pretty soon into territory like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

People will always call this the "slippery slope fallacy" or fearmongering but its not always the case, especially when this was such a public action and it has enjoyed such widespread support.

Copy cat violence is an issue. But i am going to stake a bet on people not carrying it on. To plan something like this, it takes a man of conviction and focus. Most modern political or social activists haven't got the balls. To not only plan and execute a plan like this. But also deal with losing all they have, you can't shitpost on twitter about the roman empire and how you want to kill niggers from a cell. Luigi, has been missing and presumably living more frugal life than he did in 2023, before he got this back injury. He had nothing to lose.
An example being how many right wingers bitch about Larry Fink and George Soros. They are billionaire CEOs that support and fund leftist causes. Yet none of the online right who have spent the better part of 8 years bitching about Blackrock. Have not taken 1 shot at Fink. They will pose with an AR-15 saying cold dead hands to a libshit on social media to trigger them. But they wont commit to shooting a known and hated enemy.
The left side is obvious, they have mental breakdowns over being misgendered, never mind having to learn how to make a ghost gun and have the social engineering confidence to get locations down.
But a man who is driven by pain from a insurance claim and politics from all sides of the spectrum has upstaged them.
On the other side the CEOs are shitting bricks, there are (unconfirmed) reports of United rubber stamping all current claims and the rest are U turning on unpopular decisions in the face of public notice of this case.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Copy cat violence is an issue.

Copycat violence is not an issue here.. Unless the copycats target an evil CEO specifically, it's not a copycat of Luigi, just a pretense for regular murder. Copycat violence of a just killing results in more justice.

 

[FuckedOffToff]

The biggest driver in pushing people to do copycats will be the urge to impress women.

 

[neger psykolog]

But a man who is driven by pain from a insurance claim and politics from all sides of the spectrum has upstaged them.

Mind you, it still isn't clear if:

• He was even a customer of UnitedHealth
• He had any immediate or long term financial concerns from his injury
• His specific medical condition was/wasn't being covered by his insurance
• His specific medical condition was given some sort of a treatment that was a cheaper/worse option by the health insurance company
• He was angry about the outcome of his medical treatment and that is why he did this
• Whether all of the above are completely untrue and he just decided this was some sort of an ideological cause that he felt was important enough to go off the grid, make a 3d printed gun and shoot a CEO in broad daylight.

 

[Space Faring Marsupial]

Copycat violence is not an issue here.. Unless the copycats target an evil CEO specifically, it's not a copycat of Luigi, just a pretense for regular murder. Copycat violence of a just killing results in more justice.

We live in a wild world, who knows what could happen.

The biggest driver in pushing people to do copycats will be the urge to impress women.

Imagine if a bunch of them drop like flies because some lunatics want to get some strange.

 

[polakrobak99]

I mean… If the US decided to drop having bases in 140 countries around the world, and decided to go for nukes+small Air Force+small navy+National Guards for defense, there’s like an easy trillion dollars a year to save there.

Cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks.

 

[repentance]

The notebook described going to a conference and killing an executive, the officials said.

“What do you do? You wack the CEO at the annual parasitic bean-counter convention. It’s targeted, precise, and doesn’t risk innocents,” was one passage written in the notebook, the officials said.

From NYT article on the notebook (gift article, no paywall).

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/11/nyregion/luigi-mangione-assassination-plan-notebook.html?unlocked_article_code=1.gk4.bJcC.F6YcB578kkEe&smid=url-share

https://archive.md/w2Y6t

 

[just Reading a post]

it's not a copy cat of Luigi,

Pure semantic argument. Because the justification for any sort of violence carried out against any other health company that is bungled by involving others in the company by ways of say a bomb that kills more than the CEO made by someone who is following Luigi's call to action.
It is just endless no true Scotsman arguments. How far could you take it? Well this guy used a licensed fire arm to shoot that CEO, he obviously is not a copycat of Lugi. 1 guy forgot to make a fake id and he killed a CEO that means he is not a copycat either. I think the intent is the copy cat bro.

Mind you, it still isn't clear if:

• He was even a customer of UnitedHealth
• He had any immediate or long term financial concerns from his injury
• His specific medical condition was/wasn't being covered by his insurance
• His specific medical condition was given some sort of a treatment that was a cheaper/worse option by the health insurance company
• He was angry about the outcome of his medical treatment and that is why he did this
• Whether all of the above are completely untrue and he just decided this was some sort of an ideological cause that he felt was important enough to go off the grid, make a 3d printed gun and shoot a CEO in broad daylight.

True we have 0 information that United was his insurer. He could have also researched the most scumbag heath care CEO and chose a target based on that.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Pure semantic argument. Because the justification for any sort of violence carried out against any other health company that is bungled by involving others in the company by ways of say a bomb that kills more than the CEO made by someone who is following Luigi's call to action.
It is just endless no true Scotsman arguments. How far could you take it? Well this guy used a licensed fire arm to shoot that CEO, he obviously is not a copycat of Lugi. 1 guy forgot to make a fake id and he killed a CEO that means he is not a copycat either. I think the intent is the copy cat bro.

Our opposition has employed semantic arguments to the extent that woman is now a controversial definition.

Besides which, the distinction between a just killing and an unjust one has always defined murder, and that isn't semantics. If it is a just killing, it isn't murder.

You're a deboonk addict tied up in his own semantics.

 

[The Crescent King]

oh well i guess it's ok then, and we should be using murder to get whatever we want throughout our society

brilliant plan

The Bible is also full of stories of God smiting those who were just as depraved as Brian Thompson; nobody hates injustice more than God, as He too was a victim of it (if you believe the Christian story). God knows humans are fallible and prone to sin, and I doubt anyone here is going to be raked over the spiritual coals for feeling some much needed catharsis from the shooting - people aren't celebrating because they're psychopaths, they are normal human beings pushed to the brink under the most inhumane healthcare system in the modern world.

If you don't want Brian to he dehumanised, maybe he shouldn't have dehumanised himself so throughly by parasitically sucking the life-force of millions of Americans and condemning thousands to die in agony. In such a person the capacity to love has all but been extinguished.

 

[neger psykolog]

He does have some interesting points. At what part of a company do you have a cut off for violent retribution? When does the call center staff become collaborators? They have to tell the person on the other end that their claim is denied. And i am quite sure some take a great delight in doing it. Remember the "I was just following orders" excuse was laughed at in 1945.
Should people be bombing the mail clerks home and gunning the front office desks family down?
I think i have proven in this thread that have no love for the CEO. But it is interesting to think about these questions.

I think the other part of this is that (from an outsider's perspective) America has become very divided and people act pretty insane - I have personally never seen an adult throw a tantrum at a fucking fastfood restaurant over their hamburger taking too long to be made and start throwing shit around or get into a physical altercation and put themselves at risk of assault charges/jail time. I think COVID made public freakouts like that reach a peak though.

You have to consider that most people are either very dumb or have a very insular worldview and they're not going to understand the situation like that tweeter has laid out (they're not going to be reading any analysis about this shit period) - they might not understand or even comprehend that this situation was a message about the CEO being responsible (in part) for the healthcare system being shit and may instead think that its the entire healthcare industry (doctors, nurses, secretaries, ambulance drivers) that are the reason for things. I hate to think that this event may result in an increase of people treating medical staff like shit or endangering them in any way.

 

[Fruttasecca]

Doctors killed millions during covid by hooking them onto respirators while the Nurses were making tiktoks dancing around like circus clowns.
Medical staff should be treated like shit and endangered.

 

[just Reading a post]

Our opposition has employed semantic arguments to the extent that woman is now a controversial definition.

Besides which, the distinction between a just killing and an unjust one has always defined murder, and that isn't semantics. If it is a just killing, it isn't murder.

You're a deboonk addict tied up in his own semantics.

Why are yo so mad bro? "our opposition" what the fuck are you even talking about? Your post has 0 to do with the shooting. If you want to bitch about leftists fuck on to the other threads on thunderdome.

You're a deboonk addict tied up in his own semantics.

"Don't prove me wrong it hurts my feelings."

 

[Oxyjen]

This is what’s keeping me so fascinated right now: at this point, we honestly still have no idea what his motives were in keeping all that evidence on him

He killed because he was in despair at the prospect of being a normal nobody after such success in his youth (being valedictorian etc), and then “cut down in his prime” by his surfing accident and having to work a boring number pushing job. Probably contemplating suicide, so wanted to do something that would put him into the history books first. Like the motives of most mass shooters?

But he’s arrogant and naive enough to think he’s got away with it, despite the mask off photo, so he doesn’t bother disposing of the gun etc - it might come in useful for next time. And the manifesto, well it’s a bit of a first draft, he wants people to read it but maybe he can do a few re-writes in the meantime.

 

[AssignedEva]

Someone in New York has been putting up wanted posters for CEOs

They've used bullets for the bullet points in a cutsey detail. Full text:

WANTED
DENYING MEDICAL CARE FOR CORPORATE PROFIT
DENY - United Healthcare denied more medical claims than any other healthcare company, killing everyday people for the sake of profit. As a result Brian Thompson was denied his claim to life. Who will be denied next?
DEFEND - Punishing the CEOs who profit violently off of suffering and death gives the power back to the people. Defend those who defend us against vultures like Brain Thompson.
DEPOSE - Health insurance companies are our collective enemy. We must remove them and take their power and give it back to the people. Dethrone the CEOs!
When the rich rob the poor it's called business. When the people fight back it's called violence. FIGHT BACK!
HEALTHCARE CEOS SHOULD NOT FEEL SAFE
DENY - DEFEND - DEPOSE

The other two people are Heather Cianfrocco, CEO of OptumHealth, and Andrew Witty, CEO of UnitedHealth Group. I think whoever put these up may have flown a bit too close to the fedposting sun, but you have to wonder what whispers are going on in C-suite circles in light of this.