Culture The inhabitants of Germany are too dumb - too dumb for democracy? - The Germans? "The Germans"? Migrants? With a right to vote? Don't just read the title, read the article for interesting thoughts

Bespoke translation by yours truly. Original article [A] by Danisch


The inhabitants of Germany are too dumb - too dumb for democracy?​


First I wanted to write "the Germans" - but that seems to be untrue. "People who are Germaning" apparently doesn't fit either.

Just heard about it on the radio, but you find it online as well: According to a PISA study for adults, the "Germans" (or rather, whoever happens to be around in Germany) are getting ever worse at reading and writing.

BR24:

Berlin: In an international comparison, adults in Germany are only in the upper midfield when it comes to reading, arithmetic, and solving everyday problems. This is the result of the new comparative education study by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. OECD Director of Education Schleicher pointed out that the proportion of people with very poor reading skills has increased across all countries. Accordingly, one fifth of adults in Germany cannot read a simple sentence correctly. The OECD names the increasing contact with the digital world as a possible reason: This is turning citizens into consumers rather than people who reflect. Germany performs slightly better in everyday mathematical competence and problem solving. - According to the OECD, there is hardly any other country in which social background conditions are as crucial for skills as in Germany.
[emphasis added by Danisch]

DER SPIEGEL, however, is attempting to frame the situation a bit more positively and simply doesn't mention the fact with the simple sentence (maybe it's too difficult for SPIEGEL readers). They say that Germany is no longer in the midfield like before, but managed to become "above average" - which, however, is not because anything in Germany has improved, but because the other countries have deteriorated significantly and we only improved relative to the others (just like the leading investigative magazine, the BILD, did compared to the other newspapers).

Democracy​


What unfortunately isn't mentioned: Whether they are Germans, "Germans", or migrants - as in, whether these people, who fail to read a simple sentence correctly, have the right to vote. Because, what does it mean for "our" democracy when up to 20% of voters are so dumb that they cannot comprehend a simple sentence?

And what unfortunately isn't mentioned either: How many of these morons who fail to understand simple sentences have managed to graduate, get a PhD, and become professors at German universities (I wrote about an astoundingly high number of German professors being functional illiterates), and how many of them got into benefit positions or became top level government officials by means of the political parties.

From a current poll:

At Insa, the [SPD] social democrats of chancellor Olaf Scholz have gained a percent compared to the previous week and reached 17 percent. This is the highest SPD polling in the polls by this institute since more than a year. The Greens lose 1.5 percent and reach 11.5 percent. CDU/CSU remain unchanged at 31.5 percent.

The AfD reaches 19.5 percent (+1%) and the BSW 8 percent (+0.5%). The FDP with unchanged 4.5 percent and the Left with 3 percent (-0.5%) remain below the five percent threshold. [in general elections in Germany, a party must reach 5% of the total vote in order to enter the federal parliament, outside from "direct mandates" from districts]

So the morons of Germany would easily suffice to prop up Green or SPD voters. It is curious that the AfD with 19.5 is "closer to it", but it is also a known fact that, at the AfD, not just the politicians but also the voters have higher educational achievements than, for instance, at the SPD, and graduate from university much more often than Greens do [who drop out], and who usually have proper jobs.

It is an interesting question what becomes of a democracy when up to 20% of voters (like I said, I don't know how many of the morons have the right to vote) are too dumb for simple sentences and neither understand what they're doing nor are intellectually capable of becoming informed.

The labor market​


Another question is how people who are so dumb that they can't comprehend simple sentences are supposed to make a living or be able to do so. Another topic I write about constantly: Minimum wages ensure that somebody who cannot earn the minimum wage with their labor, that is, is financially unprofitable for an employer, certainly will never get a job.

That means: 20% of the population are thus with almost perfect certainty a lifelong case for the dole, because there are ever fewer jobs "for morons". There's hardly any job remaining in which you don't need to do, read, write something on a computer.

Illiterates​


Now that I think about it: It doesn't say how many illiterates we've got, whether this fifth that can't comprehend a sentence is a superset or subset of illiterates (which is implied, but not necessarily the case), because it doesn't specify whether the people who hardly understood the sentence had to read it or had it read out to them. There are certainly intelligent and reasonable people who cannot read. A few time ago, in public broadcasting, there was a farcical show in which they accompanied a few people who somehow missed out on learning to read - among whom was a Schlager singer. Those were people who did not seem like morons.

Correlation and causality​


They blame it on digital consumption.

Could it be the other way around, that the digital realm is booming because it appeals better to morons?

That too is something I frequently write about, that written language is disappearing and communication keeps moving towards images and videos. I especially notice this on Twitter: Plaintext tweets are on the decline. Everybody must have something with a photo or spastic video. On the other hand, the attention span is decreasing to maybe 20 or 30 seconds.

Do we prefer such media because we become too dumb, or are we becoming too dumb because we no longer read?

Or is it something completely different, is it simply the case that a "digital realm" - contrary to expectations - makes life easier for illiterates or morons and therefore takes away the psychological strain from not learning to read or think?

I expected something different. Because, when I think back to the 70s and 80s, there was much less everyday reading than nowadays. When we as kids played outside or sat in front of the TV in the evening, there was nothing to read. You had to actively go and read a newspaper or a book to obtain longer texts. Nowadays, I get to read all day long on websites and e-mails, so I read much more every day than I used to - even though I hardly read books anymore. But: They are much shorter texts, websites or tweets.

Genetics and algorithms​


Or could it be other environmental influences? Environmental poisons? Diets?

Or are we maybe degenerating? Back then, we had an evolutionary selection, the morons were eaten by the sabertooth tiger or fell off a cliff. Today, we have a moron-compatible society, everybody gets protected from all hardships and can get any job. The Greens recently said that you don't need to be able to read in order to be a functioning member of the federal parliament.

I am getting this nasty, but algorithmically grounded, suspicion that the genetic process of permanent mutation is only advantageous as long as a strict selection of the fittest is happening, because continued development through random permutation by itself isn't sufficient. If you just mutate and trial-and-error randomly, given the current complexity, the overwhelming majority of cases will result in being worse off. Only rarely is there an improvement. And that improvement can only come out on top if it offers survival and reproductive advantages, so if it is effectively "better" in some way, while turns for the worse would die out. "Survival of the fittest".

But we created a society in which there is no more disadvantage in being a moron - not in terms of health, nor in reproduction, not in career building. We don't have a selection of the best anymore. It's the opposite: The smarter you are, the less children you have, while the morons reproduce flawlessly. Like in the movie Idiocracy:


So, the question is whether a society with its development isn't destined to lead to degeneration and stupidity,
  • because intelligence leads to technological progress,
  • technological progress leads to better sustenance,
  • better sustenance leads to a lack of selection of the best,
  • a lack of selection of the best leads to idiocy.
Which just reminds me a lot of the often cited cycle "Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times."

Two entities A and B that influence each other, but A has a positive effect on B while B has a negative effect on A, each with a delay, creating not a stable situation, but an oscillation - not equal to, but astoundingly similar to the analog oscillator switching of two transistors (which influence each other negatively, but compensate it alternatingly using condensers and thus get a time element).

It would explain why the peak of education and intelligence is behind us (approx. 50s to 60s) and are on the down and down of idiocy. Only with the problem that we are now globalized and therefore no longer have local, independent oscillations, but a global world idiocy?

Is the world idiocy unstoppable by this point? Or, more precisely, only through an event of ruthless selection such as a big natural disaster?

Or is the onset of the cycle phase of idiocy in connection to globalization so stable that we get such a long and stable phase of idiocy that it destroys all knowledge and we start again at the stone age?
 
In my opinion, the article is good, but falls off really hard towards the end.

It astounds me how few people are able to spot the huge and stinky elephant in the room.

Riddle me this, audience:
  • Who takes money away from people who are successful earners?
  • Who gives money to people who are unsuccessful and unemployed?
  • Who is in, depending on the area of the world, complete or near-complete control of education in the first place?
  • Who creates incentives such as unemployment money and welfare benefits for people to not make careers?
  • Who devalues currency in order to commit theft against savers (yes, "inflation" making prices higher also means that everyone who saved money essentially got robbed because their savings lost purchasing power)?
  • Who makes sure that those people who are best fit to parent successful children cannot afford them?
  • Who makes sure that all morons reproduce nilly willy and get financed?
The phenomenon of idiocracy is not natural, it is caused by the state.

Plus, strictly speaking, it is not merely intelligence that leads to technological progress, because it is almost a universal certainty that there will always be a proverbial shelf of untried ideas and unbuilt inventions. A crucial and absolutely necessary requirement for genuine technological progress is capital.
Look at recent history, East Germany under the Soviet Union and West Germany. The same genetic stock of people, the same language, the same natural resources, but one developed and the other failed. Or North Korea and South Korea. Or look at how many niggers in Africa have Internet access and can just read about every idea and theory that's out there, but still don't achieve any meaningful progress. Capital is crucial.
 
Any modern day problems with "Germania" can be attributed to their 80 year client state owners Americanda, and subsequently their little Banker friends. Oddly enough, Americanda's population is also suffering degradation and languishment since we fought on the wrong side of WWII, as Patton put it. It's almost like we're being destroyed together... couldn't possibly be...
 
Jews? Indians? Chinese?
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Reminds me of this political compass meme, like the left saying the problem is the rich and America and the right saying the problem is the Jews and the government, and the result is that the problem is the rich Jews in the American Government

But the problem exists for every state, then what are taxes if not the successful crime gang in a territory extorting their prey
 
Yes, the Germans are too dumb for democracy. They are incapable of developing a society that runs a sane middle ground. They are only capable of yoyoing between sodomy, poop sex and pedophilia OR authoritarian stormtroopers and genocide (also with a heaping spoonful of sodomy and pedophilia).

To be sure, America struggles with lots of those same issues from time to time. But our political shifts aren't nearly as dramatic and we do regularly return to a sane middle ground, as this recent election shows. Germany? I'm not so sure.

I do believe that American style freedom is a human right, but idk, I look at Germany and sometimes I think some people were just meant to be under the boot. It's where they're happiest.

I really think the best Germany (and honestly most of the world's clever people) had to offer went to the new world.
 
"Man being beaten with stick too dumb to realize that if he just obeyed the stick-wielder's orders? Then he wouldn't be beaten!"
 
Yes, the Germans are too dumb for democracy. They are incapable of developing a society that runs a sane middle ground. They are only capable of yoyoing between sodomy, poop sex and pedophilia OR authoritarian stormtroopers and genocide (also with a heaping spoonful of sodomy and pedophilia).

To be sure, America struggles with lots of those same issues from time to time. But our political shifts aren't nearly as dramatic and we do regularly return to a sane middle ground, as this recent election shows. Germany? I'm not so sure.

I do believe that American style freedom is a human right, but idk, I look at Germany and sometimes I think some people were just meant to be under the boot. It's where they're happiest.

I really think the best Germany (and honestly most of the world's clever people) had to offer went to the new world.
People will neg sticker this post but it's only because they've never had to interact with a European. When your culture places no value on liberty, least of all personal liberty, you will absolutely end up with a society of drones who never think outside of the box and are susceptible to everything their government imposes onto them.

For all of the idiocy America has (especially nowadays where less and less people are literate) it consistently produces innovative, unique and occasionally accomplished people, and it does this at a higher rate than any other country in existence. Even if we accept the baseline for all of these desirable qualities is being white, nothing will tarnish notions of white superiority faster than having to explain why the First and Second Amendments matter to a German, and they still fail to comprehend it.
To be sure, America struggles with lots of those same issues from time to time. But our political shifts aren't nearly as dramatic and we do regularly return to a sane middle ground, as this recent election shows.
People will shit on your head for heaping praise onto Donald Trump a decade after it was cool, and they're right, but even if Trump ended up being a zionist the path that lead to electing him was still a bigger step in the right direction than anything I've seen take place in Europe. They need a new Napoleon and they need it bad.
 
They are incapable of developing a society that runs a sane middle ground.
You wrongly assume that the middle ground is a) stable, and b) desirable.
From praxeological study we can conclude that there is no such thing as a stable middle ground between a free society and a society in which everything is under centrally planned government control. There is no such thing as a stable situation of "there is nominal private property, but the government steps in to fix issues".
 
(I wrote about an astoundingly high number of German professors being functional illiterates)
What?! Can I request this one next?

This isn't a good article though. He starts out talking about migration and "the people who happen to be here at any moment", but then veers off into evolution nonsense. (Anyone calling back to "Idiocracy" needs a flogging) Which is it, is the population evolving or are we just replacing it with a different population?
 
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For all of the idiocy America has (especially nowadays where less and less people are literate) it consistently produces innovative, unique and occasionally accomplished people, and it does this at a higher rate than any other country in existence.
The United States is like 4% of the world's population but we've got like 40% of the world's millionaires. (I know being a millionaire is far less impressive nowadays, with all the goofy economic nonsense Biden and Obama were dicking us over with, but I'm not acquainted with updated stats.)

Something like 80% of our millionaires (and richer) are first generation millionaires.

And when you look into how they got rich, it's legit hard working stuff like starting small businesses.

It's not like when you look at, say, former Soviet countries and all their rich oligarchs were just handed state enterprises when the Soviet Union fell.

You can get rich in the US feeding fat fucks $2 hamburgers.
You wrongly assume that the middle ground is a) stable, and b) desirable.
From praxeological study we can conclude that there is no such thing as a stable middle ground between a free society and a society in which everything is under centrally planned government control. There is no such thing as a stable situation of "there is nominal private property, but the government steps in to fix issues".
Stable on the timescale of 1000 years? Yeah, probably not.

Stable on the scale of a lifetime or so? Yeah, pretty stable. Sure, you'll observe big changes in society over the course of a lifetime, but the primary life goals will be available to most people over the course of your lifetime.

(Btw, I'm very certain petroleum is important to this. The eco-morons proposing going 100% cold turkey on petroleum will be extremely lucky if the public simply ignores them. A cheap, portable store of power is essential to American growth. Because if the public takes them seriously, telling the public that their kids will be poorer their whole life than they were is going to get you ripped to bits in the street. People need hope for the future and their kids are part of that. Eat the rich indeed.)

Whether the American middle ground is desirable is a pretty personal question.

There's always going to be a clash between people with a really ambitious culture versus people with a more conservative, middle class culture.

Some people came to this country, worked in a shoe shop, and then browbeat their offspring into becoming lawyers or doctors over the course of a generation. People like the Chinese are still doing it in New York City, coming to the US with like $15k and their kids become doctors.

Other people come to this country, started working at a factory, rose up through the ranks to become a manager, and then just chill out there. They have like 9 kids and spend their money on taking them to the water park every summer.

Both life trajectories are fine and we need both types. The US is big and diverse enough to support both. (By "diverse" I mean properly diverse. Not the gay Hollywood diversity "well, we've got a black guy, a yellow guy, a gay guy, a guy in a turban, and they all went to Ivy league colleges".)

There's an escape valve for pressure in the US in that you can always move to a different state. We've got the free market of social competition in that sense and it works.

Really, California is such a big piece of shit, at least in part, because it's too fucking big. There is no competition there.
 
Look at recent history, East Germany under the Soviet Union and West Germany. The same genetic stock of people, the same language, the same natural resources, but one developed and the other failed.
Exactly. The GDR was being stripped of billions of dollars of its capital stock from the beginning due to Soviet reparations while West Germany received billions in Marshal Plan aid, from ripping up factories and infrastructure to commandeering production at factories until the early 1960s.

The "accelerated construction of socialism" was so retarded even Stalin told them to back off and led to over a million people fleeing the country and drained them of even more capital.

One correction to you statement is East and West Germany weren't equal in natural resources, but it just proves your point. The GDR was forced onto a standard track that wasted enormous amounts of capital on projects that made no sense given local resources.
 
Wouldn’t it be really funny if they had to change the National language of Germany from German to English, because a lot of Muslim immigrants speak English and English is easier for Muslims to learn than German is.
 
Wouldn’t it be really funny if they had to change the National language of Germany from German to English, because a lot of Muslim immigrants speak English and English is easier for Muslims to learn than German is.
Arab or Turkish will become the national language of Germanistan before English will
 
Arab or Turkish will become the national language of Germanistan before English will

A lot of Muslims don’t speak Arab. The guys from Pakistan don’t. More Muslims speak English than they do Arabic.

They are probably inbred from having babies with their cousins in Pakistan and then come to Germany making their national iq lower
 
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