Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

[LazyLizard]

As per an update on choices from Bioware themselves:

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Lucanis is a correct choice. Sending Taash to fight the Venatori Commander will always get her killed, by the way.

then it sounds like Traash is the correct choice

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

I can't believe the only way to get rid off Traash is being killed in a specific quest.
Meanwhile:

• Morrigan is essential until later in the main quest to ask her to leave.
• Leliana can be recruited up to 2 times in Lothering before leaving perma. Can be killed by being aggresive by defing the urn if not hardened.
• Sten can be killed if not rescued. Can be asked to leave up by dialogue or killed in specific circunstances.
• Alistair is essential until Landsmet. Can be exiled or killed afterwards.
• Zevran can be killed first meeting. Can be asked to leave afterwards.
• Shale can be asked to leave after recruitment. Can be killed in Paragon of her Kind by specific conditions too.
• Wynne can be killed in the tower by 2 options and later defyling the urn, which is automatic.
• Anders can be taken by templars (in DAO Awakening), asked to leave permantently in a specific quest or killed in the end of DA2, both.
• Fenris can be given to slavers, or betraying you in the last quest by specific conditions met.
• Isabela can leave permanently or taken by the Qun.
• Bethany/Carver can either taken away, being killed by the Taint or taken by the Grey Wardens.

I know Aveline, Varric and Merril are the only ones which never leaves the party.

 

[Absolute Ego Dance]

I can't believe the only way to get rid off Traash is being killed in a specific quest.
Meanwhile:

• Morrigan is essential until later in the main quest to ask her to leave.
• Leliana can be recruited up to 2 times in Lothering before leaving perma. Can be killed by being aggresive by defing the urn if not hardened.
• Sten can be killed if not rescued. Can be asked to leave up by dialogue or killed in specific circunstances.
• Alistair is essential until Landsmet. Can be exiled or killed afterwards.
• Zevran can be killed first meeting. Can be asked to leave afterwards.
• Shale can be asked to leave after recruitment. Can be killed in Paragon of her Kind by specific conditions too.
• Wynne can be killed in the tower by 2 options and later defyling the urn, which is automatic.
• Anders can be taken by templars (in DAO Awakening), asked to leave permantently in a specific quest or killed in the end of DA2, both.
• Fenris can be given to slavers, or betraying you in the last quest by specific conditions met.
• Isabela can leave permanently or taken by the Qun.
• Bethany/Carver can either taken away, being killed by the Taint or taken by the Grey Wardens.

I know Aveline, Varric and Merril are the only ones which never leaves the party.

I haven't played DA2 for a while, but this is from the wiki. Does this count as leaving the party, or is it too late in the game? I can't remember. Still, regardless, even if you can't get them killed or get them to leave the party, at least you can antagonise them. Can't really do that in Veilguard.

 

[SpellforceFan]

Bethany

You can do the ultimate dick move and let Meredith kill Bethany if you sided with templars, I think it happens right after the boss fight with the Orsi-something dude.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

You can do the ultimate dick move and let Meredith kill Bethany if you sided with templars, I think it happens right after the boss fight with the Orsi-something dude.

That's evil as fuck but i can understand in a evil playthrought.

 

[SpellforceFan]

That's evil as fuck but i can understand in a evil playthrought.

She's also a whiny bitch who simps for said dead mage, so it's like making sure that inferior Hawke genes have no chance to propagate.

 

[Frosted Snowflakes]

Another whistleblower from Bioware went to Smash JT and told him that the game sold 3 million copies, while there are words of layoffs coming.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

3 Million is WAY TOO MUCh for that hideous tranny vomit

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

How FailHard is currently doing:



Currently at less than 10% of peak (and the peak was pathetic) less than 6 weeks after release

 

[God of Nothing]

How FailHard is currently doing:

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Currently at less than 10% of peak (and the peak was pathetic) less than 6 weeks after release

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I wonder how Origins is doing in comparison

 

[stupid fufu]

I'm looking for the clip that has seinfeld music with the laugh track while a character in the game malds about their pronouns. Can anyone help?

 

[God of Nothing]

I'm looking for the clip that has seinfeld music with the laugh track while a character in the game malds about their pronouns. Can anyone help?

Synthetic Man did something like that on his chudcast.
would embed at a timestamp but i don't know how to do vod'd streams
nevermind, found this

 

[stupid fufu]

Synthetic Man did something like that on his chudcast.
would embed at a timestamp but i don't know how to do vod'd streams
nevermind, found this

Thank you very much I've been spending the past hour trying to find it.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

Another whistleblower from Bioware went to Smash JT and told him that the game sold 3 million copies, while there are words of layoffs coming.
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3 million would amaze me, considering that is approximately the number of copies of DA2 sold to date, and I think everyone would agree that this turd makes DA2 look like a golden pillar of the genre in comparison.

Origins sold something like 4-6 million since it came out, DA2 sold 2-3 million since it came out, and DAI sold 12 million over 10 years.

This game would need to be approximately 1/2 as good as DAI to breakeven. However, this game is a small fraction of what DAI was. They will never breakeven, let alone make anything on this dumpster fire.

 

[30+GameOvers]

Synthetic Man did something like that on his chudcast.
would embed at a timestamp but i don't know how to do vod'd streams
nevermind, found this

Remember that an 8moe anon did something like this with nu-Saints Row. Wish I still had those webms, there were so many cringeworthy moments in that game he had to make several "episodes".

 

[Frosted Snowflakes]

Another whistleblower from Bioware went to Smash JT and told him that the game sold 3 million copies, while there are words of layoffs coming.
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3 Million is WAY TOO MUCh for that hideous tranny vomit

3 million would amaze me, considering that is approximately the number of copies of DA2 sold to date, and I think everyone would agree that this turd makes DA2 look like a golden pillar of the genre in comparison.

Origins sold something like 4-6 million since it came out, DA2 sold 2-3 million since it came out, and DAI sold 12 million over 10 years.

This game would need to be approximately 1/2 as good as DAI to breakeven. However, this game is a small fraction of what DAI was. They will never breakeven, let alone make anything on this dumpster fire.

There's another update on correcting the sales from yet ANOTHER whistleblower from Bioware whistleblowing Smash JT. To correct the facts, it wasn't 3 million copies Bioware sold. It was actually UNDER 1.5 million, and the 3 million sales leak from the first whistleblower today was the "total expected lifetime sales". However, the second whistleblower from Bioware today told Smash JT that the layoffs, the cultures, and a Mass Effect sequel is confirmed to be accurate. Be on the lookout for Smash JT's updated video rant tomorrow, and maybe an Asmongold clip now that he follows him.

 

[Oliver Onions]

This game would need to be approximately 1/2 as good as DAI to breakeven. However, this game is a small fraction of what DAI was. They will never breakeven, let alone make anything on this dumpster fire.

Bear in mind a majority of those sales would probably come from people who bought the game based on name recognition, rather than reviews, so the quality of the game wouldn't necessarily influence their purchase. I think the game probably did well on release for that reason, but word of mouth quickly killed it off.

Having said all that, I still find even 1.5 million copies hard to believe going by the Steam numbers. This is a game I'd expect most people to want to play on PC, so if that couldn't even crack 100k peak players over the launch weekend I really struggle to believe there were a million console players picking up the slack. I wish we didn't have to rely on whistleblowers for these figures, it would make things so much easier.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

To correct the facts, it wasn't 3 million copies Bioware sold. It was actually UNDER 1.5 million, and the 3 million sales leak from the first whistleblower today was the "total expected lifetime sales".

Now this I can believe. That would put it on par or a little below DA2. I still think they are being optimistic, but we'll see. The one thing we know for sure, with Bioware and EA not mentioning numbers, that can't be a good sign. Even at 3 million that means them writing down at least 100 million in loses for the development of this turd filled dumpster fire. That has to hurt.

 

[Leaf Wage Slave Jr]

Having said all that, I still find even 1.5 million copies hard to believe going by the Steam numbers. This is a game I'd expect most people to want to play on PC, so if that couldn't even crack 100k peak players over the launch weekend I really struggle to believe there were a million console players picking up the slack. I wish we didn't have to rely on whistleblowers for these figures, it would make things so much easier.

Unless there’s something with how Gamepass or EA’s Streaming Service is tracked - assuming this shitheap even showed up on Gamepass - 1.5 sounds WAY too generous, even with “Totally Legit Copies” not being pirated…

The only things I can think of otherwise to justify it are “People who bought the game but haven’t played it” (the amount of games I have in my Steam library that fit this bill), or they’re counting physical copies shipped to stores (I know this games rotting at my local Walmart. Kinda wanna see how low it can go.)

 

[30+GameOvers]

They count total number of times people bought or rented the game, they don't count refunds or people dropping the game. Starfield also similarly boasted about 6 gorrilion sales, most of which ended up being game pass rentals or copies that were eventually returned via steam. If a game is on Game Pass, always subtract the total number of "sales" and then account for how many people are likely to return it on Steam. If a game is known for getting refunds, that's not good.
I would be surprised if Troonguard even got 1M sales total, and I mean actual sales not rentals. This game is DOA, it will never make the money back no matter how people cope about it.