Is Santa Claus Real?

Is Santa Claus Real?

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GenociderSyo said:
Santa is Krampus. Thus Santa is real.
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Krampus isn't santa, he's his weird goatman friend he sends to whip naughty kids with a stick. Hollywood propaganda for the last decade or so now has tried smearing krampus as the grinch but like actually evil and not just fed up with everyone's shit. This couldn't be further from the case if you look at krampus' actual behavior.
As you can see here, he's chill and friendly most of the time.
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However, if you are a little shit santa will tell him and then send him to harass you in mostly tame yet unsettling or mildly painful ways.
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I forgot this but the day he does this is december 5th, so we're like already past the time of year where Krampus gets sent out to teach little shitbag kids a lesson via either stick whipping/wood basket ride combo or chain dragged hike across the countryside. if you didn't get harassed by krampus this year you did good. He's not as strong as santa though so he can only really do his work in europe. This means the hollywood elites that smear him are mostly immune to krampus punishments. However, They are mot immune to Santa punishments.

This isn't even going over zwarte pete, the other euro member of santa's posse. You know the"you are going to brazil" thing? yeah he can do that legally he can just take you if you're a piece of shit and literally legally kidnap you and send you to another country. Usually spain.

RealMuthaForYa said:
Yes - Jews invented him.
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No, that's rudolph. Jews bred him into existence and santa somehow got him.
 
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Trump's Chosen said:
The things people do with father christmas and what scandis and the dutch and belgians do, are mostly customs that derived from odin and yule.
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Except Belgium and half of the modern Netherlands were under Roman rule, and never believed in Odin or practiced Yule to begin with, and the Franks conquered them for less than a century before being Christianized themselves. Acting like "Yule" was ever a significant presence there is laughably deluded.
Trump's Chosen said:
Not sure how a single german book from the 70s about german folklore is supposed to be the final word on this.
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Because modern scholarship agrees with me, whereas the main people agreeing with you are Victorian writers like Jacob Grimm and H.A. Guerber. Victorian historiography isn't fit to wipe your ass with, to be frank.
Trump's Chosen said:
Yeah, he gave gifts, weapons and such, and this was so he could later harvest them for his army of the dead and have them fight for him.
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Cursed gifts. Not sure that reading comprehension is your strong suit. You seem to be sourcing most of your rhetoric from German Romanticists and Victorian-era Anglos, whose conception of Yule is entirely contrary to how actual Scandis think of it. If these traditions were part of Yule, they would have been better preserved in the least Christianized parts of Germanic Europe, but they weren't, which indicates that wasn't actually a tradition at all, but merely guesswork on the part of a generation of fiction writers who liked the moonlight as amateur historians. You might as well be sourcing fucking Margaret Murray.
 
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_squall said:
Modern Santa Claus is an advert/psyop by Coca-Cola to make us subconsciously want to consume their red and white goyslurp. If he was a Dr. Pepper ad I'd be cool with it though.
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Modern santa predates the coca cola ad campaign by a good number of years.
 
I was born in a country which was formerly a dutch colony
since i was young, one of my fondest memories as a child before 1st grade was my dad and mom whom are asian telling me that if im naughty, Black people'll come and kidnap me to work in the coal mines. (I think its a bastardization of the Zwarte piet story)
and I had a fear of black people since until i was 2nd grade when i moved to another country
because I had to flee the country since my race was being ethnically cleansed by religion of peace.


In short, Santa is real because I dont want to be kidnapped by niggers and forced to work in the coal mines.
 
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Cloudby Skytoucher said:
Except Belgium and half of the modern Netherlands were under Roman rule, and never believed in Odin or practiced Yule to begin with, and the Franks conquered them for less than a century before being Christianized themselves. Acting like "Yule" was ever a significant presence there is laughably deluded
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You're laughably uninformed. There are historical accounts like saint Eligius in the 700s denouncing pagan customs in Flanders, modern day belgium. Complaining about talks of elves and little deer, or setting little tables in return for gifts at new year ( a yule custom). This was in Roman territory. You think when romans conquered territory that people immediately abandoned their former customs? And then there was the unconquered territory, half of the netherlands. One province even being a nordic one with nordic name and language, friesland. You don't think they too had nordic rites?

Cloudby Skytoucher said:
Cursed gifts. Not sure that reading comprehension is your strong suit
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I think it's not yours. I was agreeing with your characterization of them being monkey's paw type gifts. So yes, they would be cursed. I explained how I agreed with that part.

You also say they would be better preserved, but they are. There are still backwater places where a bonfire is held in the netherlands for example, an unbroken tradition older than Christ.

The black pete's still carry some of the lore that is from huginn and muninn, odin's birds, for example how they can secretly hear who is good and who isn't.

Cloudby Skytoucher said:
Because modern scholarship agrees with me, whereas the main people agreeing with you are Victorian writers like Jacob Grimm and H.A. Guerber. Victorian historiography isn't fit to wipe your ass with, to be frank.
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Modern scholarship? A book from almost 60 years ago? Why don't you give me a primary source instead. Like you could read Vita Eligii written in the 8th century for proof that christian missionaries condemned the pagan beliefs in these areas which included yule customs specifically.

Scholars always fit narratives of what is politically expedient at the time. There are scholars today that say men and women are only different because of how they are raised. Give me a primary source that would cast doubt on what christian missionaries wrote about it in the 700s.

Any scholar that can't prove their point with a primary source is worth less than a wikipedia article and should be tarred and feathered.
 
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TMI perhaps but my father look like Santa, he loves scaring kids whenever we go Christmas shopping, whenever a kid starts to scream he looks them in the eye and says "No presents for you!" which often makes them cry harder,
anyways, we have a town idiot, he has gotten pretty famous around Sweden for his mannerisms, he goes to the same hockey games as my father and he is (the idiot) big fans of the same team, he believes, in all of his heart, that my dad is santa claus, he usually complains that he didn't see my father around christmas, "No i had so much to do so i sent the elves to help me!", "But next year, Santa?" - "Yes!"

One time he went to my brother, another hockey freak, and told him in a hushed tone, "Watch your language, Santa might hear!" And points towards my father, i don't remember what my brother said but he probably shrugged it off.

The idea of him believing that Santa Claus is a big Grums Hockey fan and spends his time shouting at referees and other players that they are fucking retarded and should get their noses broken is a wholesome one, i kind of want to live in a world like that.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that he is over 30...
 
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Of course he's real.. How else do you explain the missing cookies? Hell, even the military and NORAD confirm it!

I thought i saw him once, but sadly it only turned out to be an alien spaceship. :(
 
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