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Bog-standard Poster said:
who Abraham Lincoln and Andrew Jackson were.
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Lincoln was a fiat-fucking faggot who should have sent the niggers back, and Jackson knew the den of vipers were the Bankers. Jackson was put onto kike-controlled fiat currency debt (the thing he hated most) in his defeat, and dear Abraham remains seated upon a kingly throne in the cesspit of D.C.

Telling.
 
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Kulee Baba said:
It's undeniable how much political winds have shifted. Quentin Tarantino and his old friend Roger Avary went on the Joe Rogan Podcast to plug their podcast. Avary went on a tangent about how one of his friends is a J6 Prisoner and it's fucked up that he's now been stuck for 4 years without a trial. [Discussion starts at the 1:37:00 mark]
And Tarantino who has pretty much always been a par for the course Hollywood Democrat explains how the Federal Government bypasses the 6th Amendment:

It was just maybe 3 years ago that Jan 6 was still one of the biggest obsessions of the left, and it has just completely blown over in the cultural zeitgeist. Now who knows I may eat these words but Wray announcing that he will just resign next month well it definitely makes me feel that many in our government know they've been caught red handed. That there's not even a point in fighting anymore as it'll only make things worse.

All I know is Trump Round 2 could be disaster but if I get to see some sociopath glowies be disgraced and even thrown in cells I'll have some joy. Thank you Fani Willis for being the most outrageously incompetent DA in history. The entire redemption arc began with that court disaster.
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Hopefully this person gets released once DT takes office, otherwise that would sucks.
 
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HTTP Error 404 said:
Biden, realizing there's nothing stopping him other than a gentlemen's agreement that the US system is built upon, decides to pardon 39 people and commute the sentence of 1500 people in the single largest number of such actions in a single day in history. And he's promising to do more.

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I bet they were all blacks. At least it was for non violent crimes so can't be niggers.
 
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Gehenna said:
Just a note, your point would work better if you separated kinds of violence The founders absolutely did support the threat of violence as a form of deterrence and even "civilized" violence in the forms of duels and public humiliation spectacles like tar and feathering. They were for violence -to a point-. You are right though that they absolutely were against the idea of cold-blooded murder in the streets. But this point is lost in you seeming to defend the idea they were against violence period which is untrue. Moderate your point a bit and you are on the money.
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Fair enough, but I'm not in the mood to be lectured by a European and I will take my hats for that.

People like Sam Adams absolutely were okay with tarring and feathering - which was more than public humiliation. The heated tar burned the entire body of the victim. My point is the Brit seems to be defending cold-blooded murder as a demonstration of public political will, which is a bridge too far for me. Americans being armed is a threat and a form of deterrence. It is not a carte blanche to run out and shoot CEOs or politicians who do things that you do not like.

Things like duels were deeply personal and rooted in American honor, which is a whole other discussion. What Luigi Magnione did was far from honorable - he shot a man in the back. As for public humiliation, we don't do this kind of mob violence anymore. What is supposed to be enough is a person's name and crimes made public, for all the world to see.

Where I agree with most other posters here is that, over the past 16 years, powerful people have not been properly punished by the legal, political, and social systems meant to address these issues. Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg got publicly humiliated in their Congressional hearings, meaning that these release valves are still there and still function, but it's not enough. Why isn't Nancy Pelosi dragged out for insider trading? Why are "journalists" defending the Hunter Biden pardon? The list goes on.
 
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Cybork said:
What would keep Hunter from just lying or feigning forgetfulness?
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Of course he can do that, and they always do that (though he may not be trained to the level of standard politicos).

The problem is that the 5th covers papers and other discovery things; so even if he can't remember shit he can still be tasked with providing any and all documentation he has; and obfuscating/destroying that is itself a crime - unless he did it before the pardon!
 
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Hey Johnny Bravo said:
Where I agree with most other posters here is that, over the past 16 years, powerful people have not been properly punished by the legal, political, and social systems meant to address these issues. Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg got publicly humiliated in their Congressional hearings, meaning that these release valves are still there and still function, but it's not enough.
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I think this hits to the crux of the issue. I sympathize with the viewpoint that YES people should not be just blasted in the street because you don't like them or think they did something wrong, but I would contend that the founding fathers would also be horrified at how many politicans or CEOs have been able to get away with ruining the lives of thousands, if not millions, with no consequence of any gravity. You can't have a society that lets people routinely get away with this shit, while trying to throw the book at people like Daniel Penny, and then have surprise pikachu face when people start taking matters into their own hands. The congressional hearings are humiliating, sure, but at the end of the day nothing ever comes out of them. I can't stand all those videos on Forbes Breaking News of "senator X DESTROYS y" because what's the point when there's never any consequences. Mayorkis for example would have been flayed alive in any other society in any other time for the stuff he did and then smugly lies about (AND CRIES HOLOCUAST AS HIS DEFENSE!) in those hearings.

tbh I am somewhat surprised what happened to the CEO doesn't happen more often, goes to show how mellow we really are at the end of the day. I don't want to live in a society where people just get ventilated on the streets, but at the same time it is not that shocking to me when issues go unaddressed for so long that they boil over and someone finally loses it. I hope its a wake up call to people in positions of power that actually, yes, with great power comes great responsibility and they get that little voice in the back of their head of "hey if I fuck over these many people do you think one of them will be ruined enough to try and get their revenge on me?"

It sucks it had to get to this point when it didn't have to.
 
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