Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[GlupShitto]

Clones had a 50s diner. Maybe it's Dexter Jettster's home planet. SC is for the kid/kids going on a grand adventure crowd who grew up in the 80s and early 90s and their offspring. The planet might as well be named Reagania. Don't act like George didn't try something similar to SC with those Ewok films. And it kind of works because it's Monsanto Memberberries and came after a horrible series involving people who should fall victim to the global illegal organ trade.

At least George never tried to include deviant lifestyles. He may have been a fiscal progressive, but I always got the impression he was a social conservative. I mean going back to the whole zine thing in the 80s when they sent C&Ds to people writing gay fanfiction, it's obvious he knew Star Wars wasn't the place for degeneracy like gays and interracial couples.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

At least George never tried to include deviant lifestyles. He may have been a fiscal progressive, but I always got the impression he was a social conservative. I mean going back to the whole zine thing in the 80s when they sent C&Ds to people writing gay fanfiction, it's obvious he knew Star Wars wasn't the place for degeneracy like gays and interracial couples.

Lucas didn't want SW porn to be made. Of course, he failed due to Rule 34, but the effort still shows where he stands on the moral compass. His progressiveness ends with the political and economic shit. Socially and morally, he's no different from the average white Christian hillbilly Bible-beater. Him making two Indiana Jones movies centered on Biblical artifacts and making the third Original Trilogy movie be a space version of the Parable of the Prodigal Son goes to show where Lucas falls into when it comes to the spiritual category. He described himself as a Buddhist-Methodist. Willing to take in some aesthetics and sayings of Buddhism, but a Christian at the end who will not tolerate things like porn.

Unless of course, it's softcore porn, then he's more than willing to tolerate that. From Leia's slave bikini to Lucas' fixation on Darth Talon, we all knew where that came from.

 

[GlupShitto]

Lucas didn't want SW porn to be made. Of course, he failed due to Rule 34, but the effort still shows where he stands on the moral compass. His progressiveness ends with the political and economic shit. Socially and morally, he's no different from the average white Christian hillbilly Bible-beater. Him making two Indiana Jones movies centered on Biblical artifacts and making the third Original Trilogy movie be a space version of the Parable of the Prodigal Son goes to show where Lucas falls into when it comes to the spiritual category. He described himself as a Buddhist-Methodist. Willing to take in some aesthetics and sayings of Buddhism, but a Christian at the end who will not tolerate things like porn.

Unless of course, it's softcore porn, then he's more than willing to tolerate that. From Leia's slave bikini to Lucas' fixation on Darth Talon, we all knew where that came from.

Iirc C&DS were sent over SFW gay shit. Star wars isn't for you, faggot.

 

[Dragged Into Sunlight]

Glad you guys seem to have it covered already. Turned on Skeleton Crew because I'm bored. Typical agitprop. Nothing but mulattos and girls who act like boys while all the boys are idiot comic relief. The girlboss is absolutely fucking insufferable and incredibly unlikeable.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Iirc C&DS were sent over SFW gay shit. Star wars isn't for you, faggot.

What the fuck did I do?

Glad you guys seem to have it covered already. Turned on Skeleton Crew because I'm bored. Typical agitprop. Nothing but mulattos and girls who act like boys while all the boys are idiot comic relief. The girlboss is absolutely fucking insufferable and incredibly unlikeable.

So, the typical "Modern Disney" stuff then?

 

[Dragged Into Sunlight]

So, the typical "Modern Disney" stuff then?

Cranked up to 11 with this one. They have her talk in this silly deep/gruff voice and she's incredible obnoxious and snarky.

 

[I Love Beef]

Iirc C&DS were sent over SFW gay shit. Star wars isn't for you, faggot.

I don't know where or what Lucas did after the Star Wars Holiday Special, but the portion where Uncle Itchy is enjoying his virtual reality machine (hint: cockulus rift) and is enjoying seeing the woman pleasured over his attention was intended as pushing the envelope on sexual content. I have my sources.

I do stand by LORD IMPERATOR though. Lucas is such a fucking prude yet longing for classic Americana in the worst way. He really is out of touch in the "How do you do fellow kids? Is it true that I'm so out of touch? No the kids are wrong" way.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I do stand by LORD IMPERATOR though. Lucas is such a fucking prude yet longing for classic Americana in the worst way. He really is out of touch in the "How do you do fellow kids? Is it true that I'm so out of touch? No the kids are wrong" way.

When his Prequels failed to connect with people even with all the EU content explaining the story, his decision was to make TCW kid-friendly to connect with the childish audience. I suppose that worked, judging by all the TCW fans running around these days.

Cranked up to 11 with this one. They have her talk in this silly deep/gruff voice and she's incredible obnoxious and snarky.

Is there something in the water down in Hollywood where they think this appeals to boys or girls? Guys like sweet girls, and girls like either the nice emotional guy or the bad boy.

 

[Gondolindrim]

I am utterly astonished at the reactions to Skeleton Crew.

It does look like shit, it's the same shit where they're trying to do anything but Star Wars, but calling it Star Wars with Star Wars-y shit.

It has AMERICAN SUBURBIA with YELLOW BUSES and all!

It has a girlboss, it has zero (0) white men, except for Jude Law who is either villanous, ridiculous or both.

It has a nigger main character (Soon to be overthrown by the girlboss)

It has a two-mums family.

It has everything that has had The Fandom Menace screeching for years and the reactions has been... lukewarm?

Like, Critical Drinker almost praised it, Echo Chamberlain almost praised it, Star Wars Theory welcomed it.

Them, who had proclaimed Star Wars dead and unsalvageable, are passive aggressively hyping this shit up. Their followers, half of them are enthusing about it, after claiming having swore off the brand, and even calling people who don't like it names.

This thread has remained silent about this all.

So deprived are people of anything Star Wars that it takes just The Acolyte being toned down half a notch to go full in? Have the terrible chud influencers been bought? What he fuck is going on?

I actually forgot about Skeleton Crew. Disney Wars is too trivial to be outraged over anymore.

 

[I Love Beef]

When his Prequels failed to connect with people even with all the EU content explaining the story, his decision was to make TCW kid-friendly to connect with the childish audience. I suppose that worked, judging by all the TCW fans running around these days.

The Clone Wars was cool in that it focused on everything that everyone wanted to see out of Star Wars: action, drama, and things that did matter, like the forging of bonds in battle or Mace Windu decimating Trade Federation forces singlehandedly and only needed a small water break before jumping back into the fray. The 3D series was also cool in that we saw Anakin and Padme actually do stuff, like stop crime, investigate strange occurrences, and not packed into a two hour movie.

Infact, that was the entire problem with the Prequels, everything was trying to be "mature and adult" when at the end of the day it just needed to be what Star Wars does best: a lot of action, a bit of politics, mysticism, and intrigue, and some simple but effective twists. I could also tell George Lucas was trying to branch into other genres and trying new things, like worldbuilding to where it would be like historic dramas, but he didn't realize how those kinds of genres fundamentally work off of their content to entertain and instead tried to become just like those genres. Good thing The Clone Wars subseries hit the right note and did prequel stuff right. Can't say that about Revenge of the Sith though, honestly that could had used a Clone Wars treatment.

 

[Gondolindrim]

The Clone Wars was cool in that it focused on everything that everyone wanted to see out of Star Wars: action, drama, and things that did matter, like the forging of bonds in battle or Mace Windu decimating Trade Federation forces singlehandedly and only needed a small water break before jumping back into the fray. The 3D series was also cool in that we saw Anakin and Padme actually do stuff, like stop crime, investigate strange occurrences, and not packed into a two hour movie.

Infact, that was the entire problem with the Prequels, everything was trying to be "mature and adult" when at the end of the day it just needed to be what Star Wars does best: a lot of action, a bit of politics, mysticism, and intrigue, and some simple but effective twists. I could also tell George Lucas was trying to branch into other genres and trying new things, like worldbuilding to where it would be like historic dramas, but he didn't realize how those kinds of genres fundamentally work off of their content to entertain and instead tried to become just like those genres. Good thing The Clone Wars subseries hit the right note and did prequel stuff right. Can't say that about Revenge of the Sith though, honestly that could had used a Clone Wars treatment.

I'm not sure what prequels you were watching but they all those things and then some. Episode 2 was a visual feast of action

 

[Male Idiot]

Didn't Lucas want to include economics in EP4, with it getting vetted down to Luke wanting to go to space school?

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Didn't Lucas want to include economics in EP4, with it getting vetted down to Luke wanting to go to space school?

yeah tbf there was at least a mention of the logistics of day-to-day life and the need to have Luke around and what to do without him

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Didn't Lucas want to include economics in EP4, with it getting vetted down to Luke wanting to go to space school?

The war against the Empire even had economic roots, as Biggs Darklighter explained to Luke in a cut scene from Episode IV. Many folks became rebels because the Empire is nationalizing commerce, seizing private industries and making them into government property.

That explains why both peasants and nobles are flocking to the Rebellion. After all, as Machiavelli once said, "A son can bear with equanimity the loss of his father, but the loss of his inheritance may drive him to despair." Biggs warned Luke that he and his uncle might lose their farm to the government once the Empire starts nationalizing commerce in the Outer Rim.

Perhaps many nobles and peasants among the rebel ranks are people who lost their property in the Core Worlds as the Empire was nationalizing things, and they joined the Rebellion to get some payback.

 

[Adamska]

I do stand by LORD IMPERATOR though. Lucas is such a fucking prude yet longing for classic Americana in the worst way. He really is out of touch in the "How do you do fellow kids? Is it true that I'm so out of touch? No the kids are wrong" way.

Might be because his dick didn't work right and he became obsessed with buddhism after a messy as fuck divorce. People forget that factors in too.

I'm not sure what prequels you were watching but they all those things and then some. Episode 2 was a visual feast of action

Yes and no. I don't think the CGI held amazingly in some places (tbh it still looks better than a lot of fucking garbage getting shat out by Disney right now, it's just CGI is a complement to the real). But yeah, there's a decent slew of action in each prequel film, and they're shot well enough that you can see what's going on.

As for Skeleton Crew, it's likely just getting a pass since it's just quietly pushing The Message, since I'm not hearing actors/actresses or directors tard out at people or brag about being the nth superfaggot with brown skin to exist. It also apparently comes off as inoffensive beyond that, since like Andor there are efforts to make it at least competently, and is going hard for that Goonies era memberberry, which to be blunt the Prequels did memberberries too.

Episode 2 had that coliseum fight SPECIFICALLY to mimic Ben Hur after all.

Ain't defending that shit mind you, since I'm not going to watch something made by the same people who told me to go homeless and die. Just explaining why it's getting a pass so far.

 

[Manly_Brony]

The Little Platoon is not a fan of Skeleton Crew.

 

[King Dead]

The phrase "damned with faint praise" comes to mind with the Skeleton Crew discourse. Drinker's vid summed it up at the end: it's bland and relatively inoffensive kids' entertainment aping better material that will be forgotten about as soon as it's over. The fact that it's not actively antagonistic towards the viewers or the Star Wars universe as a whole and somewhat watchable puts it on the better end of Disney's output, but remember, "not bad" is not the same as "good."

Yeah, of course nearly all the main characters are girls because Star Wars can't be for boys anymore, but beyond that it seems not to be hammering you over the head with wokeshit, or at least that's my impression from reviews because I'm still not wasting my time with anything Disney releases. Even so, nobody will be talking about it at all in a couple months after it's all said and done. Note how The Acolyte is basically dead to the general public, and that at least was dumb enough to be mockable for a bit.

 

[Ghostse]

The phrase "damned with faint praise" comes to mind with the Skeleton Crew discourse. Drinker's vid summed it up at the end: it's bland and relatively inoffensive kids' entertainment aping better material that will be forgotten about as soon as it's over. The fact that it's not actively antagonistic towards the viewers or the Star Wars universe as a whole and somewhat watchable puts it on the better end of Disney's output, but remember, "not bad" is not the same as "good."

I watched Wolverine vs. Deadpool on the plane over Thanksgiving and that pretty much covers your last line.

The movie had no plot, it had just a bunch of thin excuses to move between vignettes.
But it was still probably the best modern CURRENT YEAR film I've seen... maybe TG: Maverick? (Marlow wasn't a bad film but the character Neeson wasn't Phillip Marlow) in that it seemed to be written by people who wanted to entertain not preach and as someone familiar with the source material I didn't feel insulted and instead commended by the writers for my spergy knowledge.

So I think yeah, the fact the show doesn't actively go out of its way to shit on star wars fans, keeps its on-message wokepandering to the quiet background, instantly elevates it to top 5 Disney Starwars shows. That doesn't make it good.

I'm little concerned we haven't had the usual squad of Disney dickriders show up to tell us in excruciating detail on every episode drop about how "absolutely awful" Mickey's sticky white mousecum tastes as they gulp down every last drop.
I hope they're doing ok, and that if they aren't they remembered to cancel those D+ subscriptions before losing consciousness.
"No see my dad and I watched everything Disney released on release day on D+, so even though I'm going into a coma I'm going to keep autobill going until insurance forces them to turn off the life support machines so I'll feel close to him even in the dark dreamless sleep before the end. They won't make Andor Season 2 if I don't. Doomcuck for-ever. beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

The Little Platoon is not a fan of Skeleton Crew.

In a bored way, not in a WTF way like with Acolyte.

 

[BullfrogBill]

I know people praise the novelization of episode 3, but how about episode 1 and 2? Does it improves the stories like 3?

I'm late to answer this but YES! All three of the prequel novels are leaps and bounds better than the movies (I love the prequel films, but the story was better suited for novels) Attack of the Clones is especially better than the film because the romance between Padme and Anakin is much less weird, cringe, and rapey when you have the inner dialogue of both characters and lots of background on what Padme is going through in her personal life that's not at all covered in the film. That's a running theme with all three books is that there's extra background and information on all the characters and loads of whole new scenes. The Phantom Menace is neat because Anakin is established as seeming much older and wiser than his real age, being a nine year old that almost acts like a 13 year old is what I believe it said. This is lost in the movie entirely with Jake Lloyd's performance, not that I think Jake Lloyd did a bad job as Anakin in the movie, but he definitely seems more his age in the film. The Jar Jar scenes are also conveniently arranged within their own sections making them easily skipped for the most part, Jar Jar was bad in the movies but he's intolerable in novel form so being able to easily skip those parts is very nice.

Each movie also got a separate prologue novel as well that I think is definitely mandatory reading. Cloak of Deception takes place before Phantom Menace and I consider it required reading to understand the plot of PM. The Approaching Storm takes place before Attack of the Clones and is recommended. Labyrinth of Evil takes place before Revenge of the Sith and man is it a good book, if you haven't read it you must because there is cool stuff here, I especially like the stuff involving Mace Windu and Sidious.