Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[No Thank You v 2.0]

I just needed a place to vent and this thread seemed right because I fucking hate the way men can ruin everything so casually.

Well, it finally happened: a manager asked me out on a date.

Spoiler: Long and stupid

I work for a large organization with multiple locations. My location is staffed by all women and it’s great. We look out for one another, share food, decorate, you know, the stuff women do to make themselves and others more comfortable.

Another location nearby just got a new manager. I actually just switched over from that location a few months ago and this man would have been my direct supervisor had I stayed. There has always been the possibility that I would return.

I met him last night for the first time at the company holiday party (I was not drinking, and neither was he tbh). I talked to him a bit to get to know him because I am an actually a very friendly person and I was being welcoming and nice.

He leaves and then a short while later I get a text message. He must have gotten my number off of the company roster, which we all have access to, but you have to make an effort to look it up. I did not give him my card. He texts me with “nice to meet you let me know if you need help.” This would be polite enough had I given him my number, but I did not. I’m giving it the benefit of the doubt when he texts me an hour later to ask me out to dinner.

I didn’t respond right away and then he starts the follow up “I didn’t mean to creep you out” and “I didn’t ask if you had a boyfriend sorry”

LIKE ME HAVING A BOYFRIEND IS WHAT MAKES IT CREEPY AND WRONG. NO. IT IS CREEPY AND WRONG REGARDLESS OF MY RELATIONSHIP STATUS.

This man is one quick restructuring decision away from being my direct supervisor and that is not an unlikely event.

He was texting me after 10pm last night. I didn’t respond. He texted again about a half hour ago, which got me upset and led me here. What the fuck am I supposed to do?

Yes we have HR and processes and this stuff has happened before in the company but I don’t want to make waves and appear difficult. I do not mean to PL but some people have let words slip and apparently I am “famous” within the company for my looks so I worry that people will think I will inevitably have this issue again and so then where could you safely put me that no men are going to creep on me?

I told my direct manager, she asked me what I wanted to do about it. When I first told her this morning, I thought it would be best to just tell her about it and make sure to properly document the text messages. I thought maybe I had let him down easy (“well I just went through a rough breakup and I’m still working through that” bullshit that is kinda true, but also really just your basic rejection model that is meant to keep yourself alive first and foremost, because this is what I’m used to, but I realize now this situation is different than usual) and that he’d take the hint and leave it alone, but he did not.

It has not been 24 hours since we first met and I’m already about to cry because I’m stressed out about my job now.

I wear a suit every day and I cover up ALL of my skin except my neck, face, and hands. I rarely wear makeup, and when I do it’s just tinted moisturizer, mascara, tinted lip balm. I keep my nails trim and manicured with sheer nude polish just to be professional and clean. I do not do anything to draw attention to my looks. My mom once accused me of trying to look ugly at work.

I feel like I’m overreacting to my own face right now like why can’t I stop getting myself in trouble? Will I ever be free of this? Do I have to just take a knife to my face and permanently disfigure myself just to be able to do my job without worrying about rejecting a man’s romantic advances?

Sorry, ladies. This is my first time dealing with this. I was self employed for the ten years before working here, and I had female management and colleagues in previous jobs. I don’t know what the right thing to do is.

In any case he went from a manager to “some dude I need to avoid” in less than a day. Fuck my life and I don’t care if this is the wrong thread and fuck men I don’t need their comments.

 

[Hubelublub]

I was not drinking

Doesn't matter.

I was being welcoming and nice

Doesn't matter.

I cover up ALL of my skin

Doesn't matter.

I rarely wear makeup

Doesn't matter.

I do not do anything to draw attention to my looks

Doesn't matter.

I keep my nails trim and manicured

Doesn't matter.

I worry that people will think I will inevitably have this issue again

I’m giving it the benefit of the doubt

I don’t want to make waves and appear difficult

I feel like I’m overreacting

1. Stop trying to make yourself smaller and lesser to avoid moidy behaviour. You are allowed to drink, you can wear clown makeup if you like, and if you want 5 inch talons on the ends of your fingers, then do it.
None of this causes or prevents a moid from overstepping boundaries and thinking with his dick. No woman has control of, or responsibility for, a man being a moron.
You DO NOT need to justify yourself.

2. Stop doubting yourself and questioning yourself and worrying that your feelings aren't as valid as anyone else's.
You're all about giving the benefit of the doubt to others, but so wary about wanting others to give the benefit of the doubt to you. How is this fair to you?
Some people WILL be shitty no matter what you do. You have to follow your own heart.

I don’t know what the right thing to do is.

Follow your instincts. They are the legacy of every women before you, who survived to imbibe you with reactions and responses which will, in turn, help you survive. Listen to them.

 

[keke]

Politicians realising men are a disruptive force that need managed.

Spoiler: Rest of her thread, very sympathetic to men who would rather live on welfare, coom, and play vidya games all day. No man should be triggered, you would think…

Now, some of the dumbest shit you will ever read. Could not pay a man to take accountability. Acting like a violent, disruptive ape in a classroom is a bad thing, actually.

 

[fake farts]

I really despise how PornHub has managed to build this "We're horny but wholesome and relatable chungerinos! " image around itself as a company thanks to doing PR moves such as donating to charities, clearing out snow and roads in some USA town so the cars can move freely during the winter and having "le quirky wholesome" people on their platform (i.e some random guy who did "wholesome life advice" videos and a dude that does videos on whether or not foods are fuckable), because almost every time there's a new scandal/announcement that Pornhub is being sued for hosting revenge porn or video depicting sexual assault there will always be a group of people (read usually men) that will straight up refuse to believe Pornhub is capable of being vile like this because "they appeared so hecking relateable and quirky!".

They aren't the first pornographers to do this, but I'd say they are the most successful. Hugh Hefner donated to pro-choice causes and championed them, Playboy often did interviews with big names to "legitimize" their magazine. A good example is Jimmy Carter who, for reasons beyond my understanding other than wanting appear hip to boomers, did an interview with the magazine during his presidential run that still exists on their website. Larry Flynt published Hustler, a magazine that promoted much more extreme content than Playboy (the first shaved vulva in the US, trannies with their gross dicks out, or rotpockets out, etc) among other porn magazines, including a "barely legal" one. He then published many legitimate magazines in the 90s when boomer and gen x men found out they can goon to increasingly hardcore pornographic videos instead of magazines. He also spent the latter half of his life promoting and fighting for free speech. And while we need more promoting of free speech, it doesn't change that he was a misogynist who profited off of womens bodies and suffering, and allegedly sexually abused his own daughter.

I also hate how being anti-porn has been completely co-opted "trad men", when being anti-porn was a very feminist thing (and always will be no matter that stupid libshit fems insist otherwise).

They did the same with gender critical thinking and TERFism. Trad men and trad women co-opted the work second wave and radical feminists had been doing since the very early 70's at least, to push their own agenda. This is why I do not subscribe to the whole "anyone who criticizes trannies is an ally" thing some supposedly gender critical women say online. It's all a backdoor for them to push their own slop through.

The enemy of your enemy is, most often, someone who still fucking hates you, especially if you are a feminist woman.

 

[crazedaze]

Politicians realising men are a disruptive force that need managed.
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Spoiler: Rest of her thread, very sympathetic to men who would rather live on welfare, coom, and play vidya games all day. No man should be triggered, you would think…

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Now, some of the dumbest shit you will ever read. Could not pay a man to take accountability. Acting like a violent, disruptive ape in a classroom is a bad thing, actually.

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Boys are viewed as faulty women

I've said it before but the school and workplace were developed for moids, to keep your testosteroned-up asses in check. To train you to be good little faulty women. A hundred years ago crusty old scumbags were beating your asses with a ruler for being out of line until you conformed. NO, you cannot act like wild fucking animals in polite society.

men are a disruptive force that need managed.

 

[Stardust_Ziggy]

I was looking for somewhere to properly share this. Hopefully this is the right thread (and, yes, I am a woman).

I reached out to a family member I had lost contact with over the last few years. And this is the response I got.


Why are men? I really wanted to ask her what kind of porn sickness this bastard was afflicted with, but I just gave her my number and told her to call me anytime if she wants to talk. She seemed receptive to it, and I hope she does because I feel like we have LOTS to discuss.

 

[Lidl Drip]

"Male loneliness crisis" is just a way people try to shame women into having sex with men. Then ofc they shame women for having sex with men as well. You can chose to either be a "disgusting whore who rides the cock carousel" or a "prude heartless bitch who wants men to suffer loneliness". You will never be praised for giving a lonely man his life saving pussy rations or for being a chaste virgin who saves herself for marriage. Whatever you chose to do will be framed negatively always if you're a woman.

 

[BIG SHOT Autos]

The way most men shit themselves when prompted to talk about feelings annoys the hell out of me as of lately. Back in my pooner days when some people online thought I'm male, it was interesting to watch the difference between reactions I would get from both men and women. Needless to say men were brushing me off as a fag, but what fascinated me even more is how speaking about anything in regards to any kind of feeling or personal experience was like walking through a minefield comparable to engagement with BPD women, except inverted, if that makes sense. Asking about their hobbies something like "yeah, impressive topic sperging, but what it means to you?" was the easiest way to make their brains go blue screen, since it came from someone they perceived as a male online. Derailing for a bit, I don't know if it has to do with circles I was a part of, but I found it odd that women were clocking me easily while men were convinced I'm male.
I don't care if it's socialization, it's idiotic. Men can only act normal when they are a part of a group that is at least half or more female, that's when questions about feelings don't trigger them, or when they have been socializing more with girls growing up. And yes, I know of the gay stereotype, but from my experience, unless I'm specifically asking a gay man about his upbringing, the rest of boys growing up with girls are now straight men who express healthy aspects of masculinity and are the best friends, fathers and husbands I have ever seen.

One would think that incels and adjacent dudebros would take a note, from reproductive point of view it does seem to be similar to what actually happens to alpha wolves. They die off, succumbing to their own retardation. While caring wolves start families and their genes live on. And yet, here we are, God knows how many thousands of years in this stupid never ending circle.

 

[Grimoire Canthari]

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"Male loneliness crisis" is just a way people try to shame women into having sex with men. Then ofc they shame women for having sex with men as well. You can chose to either be a "disgusting whore who rides the cock carousel" or a "prude heartless bitch who wants men to suffer loneliness". You will never be praised for giving a lonely man his life saving pussy rations or for being a chaste virgin who saves herself for marriage. Whatever you chose to do will be framed negatively always if you're a woman.

My crackpot theory is that "muh male loneliness" shit is pushed by the elites panicking that they might not have enough serfs in the future to continue grifting off of to maintain their roach lifestyle. So they're gonna try guilt tripping women into babymaking because improving economic and social conditions would take effort/cut into their profits.

Also, ivy leagues aren't party schools (right?). Shouldn't an Ivy Leaguer be chasing cancer cures over coochie?

 

[Kiwisee]

I want to chime in to say that I hope Jean Francois Gareipey, Andrew Tate and all of their dumbass followers catch a terminal case of testicular cancer

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

Why is it always 'oh we don't know how to be a good man' yes you fucking do it's the exact same as being a good person.

 

[crazedaze]

Male loneliness crisis" is just a way people try to shame women into having sex with men.

How many Harvard freshmen are married? How many young people not having sex are married? Fucking retarded. These whore moids don't even like women nor do they want long-term relationships, and so they're mad that we've noticed and stopped fucking them. Fuck all the way off lol

 

[Poop Shoot]

We tried it, it didn't work. This is Feminism 101.

I have a spawn, I love my spawn so, so much.

That being said, being a stay at home mother was the most soul-crushing, depressing time in my entire life.

Men love to bitch about working 50 hours a week, forgetting that we’re also people that have held full time employment as well. And the cold hard truth is that’s the easier job. Men know this, the thought of them being the ones to throw their careers and life satisfaction away to wipe snotty noses would never, ever happen. Because that’s our job, right?

Men get all the benefits of a nanny and maid, and what do we get? We get to be a nanny and maid.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

In any case he went from a manager to “some dude I need to avoid” in less than a day. Fuck my life and I don’t care if this is the wrong thread and fuck men I don’t need their comments.

Report him to HR, don't do it in person or over the phone, send an email for proof. If HR fails to resolve it (they will) then get yourself a lawyer and brandish said lawyer at the sexual harasser and the company.

 

[The Jewel of the Nile]

Report him to HR, don't do it in person or over the phone, send an email for proof. If HR fails to resolve it (they will) then get yourself a lawyer and brandish said lawyer at the sexual harasser and the company.

In any case he went from a manager to “some dude I need to avoid” in less than a day. Fuck my life and I don’t care if this is the wrong thread and fuck men I don’t need their comments.

Some random thoughts
- remember to put a heavy emphasis on the fact that you didn't give him your number, he got it himself by going through company documents (it probably depends on the local laws but it seems like a big no-no)
- be prepared for insane guilt tripping. "Oh I just wanted to make some smalltalk!!!" and similar shit. Or a variation of "you're a stuck up bitch, ugly, dumb and I never had any intentions of inviting you on a date". Trust your instincts and stand your ground. Refuse to apologize for anything, heck, you should be the one attacking him for being unprofessional
Hang in there

 

[Mandy Stroyer]

I have a spawn, I love my spawn so, so much.

That being said, being a stay at home mother was the most soul-crushing, depressing time in my entire life.

Men love to bitch about working 50 hours a week, forgetting that we’re also people that have held full time employment as well. And the cold hard truth is that’s the easier job. Men know this, the thought of them being the ones to throw their careers and life satisfaction away to wipe snotty noses would never, ever happen. Because that’s our job, right?

Men get all the benefits of a nanny and maid, and what do we get? We get to be a nanny and maid.

I've started to not open any comment section on posts or videos reguarding anything to do with mothers and their children because I know what I'm in for.

Mother seems stressed out? Try working 40 hours a week.

Mother experiencing PPD or PPP? Women are hysterical and it was made up by big pharma to sell you pills and make you hate babies.

Mother feeding her kids an easy meal they'll eat? Seed oils, dyes, refined sugar. Poisoning them.

Mother discussing being a single parent? Evil bitch probably keeping a loving dad away.

Mother discussing getting out of an abusive relationship? Should've picked better, now the kids are traumatized.

Mother talking about her kid with a disorder? Her fault for having shit genetics.

Mother advocating for abortion? I bet this psycho wants to murder her children.

Mother advocating for baby boxes? Irresponsible whore wants to abandon her child.

Men are always claiming they can do better than any woman at raising children yet they're rarely the ones doing any work, if they're even there. To them, raising a child is just turning on the TV, giving them a cheese stick, an occasional bath, and making sure they don't kill themselves. I feel like they don't even comprehend this is an entirely new, very fragile human and one wrong move or many small ones can completely ruin them. The brunt of this person's existence is always on the mother and that is a heavy burden to carry regardless of every other duty they also have now.

 

[decrease tnt]

I have a spawn, I love my spawn so, so much.

That being said, being a stay at home mother was the most soul-crushing, depressing time in my entire life.

Men love to bitch about working 50 hours a week, forgetting that we’re also people that have held full time employment as well. And the cold hard truth is that’s the easier job. Men know this, the thought of them being the ones to throw their careers and life satisfaction away to wipe snotty noses would never, ever happen. Because that’s our job, right?

Men get all the benefits of a nanny and maid, and what do we get? We get to be a nanny and maid.

Being a stay at home parent is 24/7 work, you are basically on call every single day at any time. You can't exactly just come home from your job as a SAHM or have the weekends off, and not only are you rearing your child but you're looking after the house at the same time. Men don't realise how easy they've got it having a job away from home that you can take breaks from.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

...The brunt of this person's existence is always on the mother and that is a heavy burden to carry regardless of every other duty they also have now.

And don't forget: not only all of the above, if you don't stay home 24/7, you're a lazy, negligent, selfish mother (who's also probably working some typically useless, made-up job, or taking a real one that should belong to som man).

 

[𝕺𝖑' 𝕯𝖎𝖗𝖙𝖞 𝕱𝖆𝖙𝖘𝖔]

Men get all the benefits of a nanny and maid, and what do we get? We get to be a nanny and maid.

Even they get paid. Which destroys the moid argument that it isn't real work.

 

[Silence of the Troons]

https://nitter.poast.org/KonstantinKisin/status/1867510670478258396#m
https://archive.is/wip/2OGmQ

This reads like the musings of a coomer who blames the women that he watches get raped on Pornhub for the fact that he is too mentally weak to stop consooming and cooming to porn.


More podcast bros need to contribute to the male suicide rate.