JFG / Jean-Francois Gariepy / jfgariepyneuro / The French Pervert / The Public Space - Warski's Abusive Ex-BF, Racist Streamer, Failed Academic, Potato Masher, Kristi Winter's BFF, Kero Defender

[Machine made Horrors]

My money's on it being somebody from Elora's family.

Either that or a vegan jewish grandmother rang his doorbell.

 

[Kiwisee]

My money's on it being somebody from Elora's family.

I think that what really happened is that Elora’s family didn’t send him any death threats, but are demanding to know her whereabouts while also bringing up everything he’s been saying on Twitter. They’re probably also concerned for the well being of the children.

If I were them, I’d be fighting for custody before something bad happens to them. He is a danger to them, via gross negligence on his part for not trying to track down Elora.

It’s unlikely they’re going to just let him get away with it. One way or another. Their anger would be completely justified.

Edit:

I forgot to add that apparently, one of the kids was a newborn according to neighbors. So, let’s pretend she did disappear during a fit of postpartum psychosis, he’s still criminally negligent for not getting her the help she clearly needed if she was talking about running away. I think her family may have a probable cause to sue him on.

 

[AnOminous]

You consider the 1970s "recent"?

Polanski is free to this day and Einhorn, despite being a murderer, was alive and free until 2001.

 

[JustStopDude]

As far as shitlib countries without the death penalty, the U.S. just promises to not seek the death penalty and they get extradited, immediately. Obviously, in the case of Canada, they don't have capital punishment in the first place so that would never be a hurtle to extradition.

The Charles Ng legal case makes for interesting reading. Him and an American basically filmed their own stuff films. Really fucked up shit. The American committed suicide before he got arrested. Ng ran back to Canada.

It went all the way up to the Canadian Supreme Court and their ruling is pretty much along the lines of "let's just pretend that in this case, extradition of this animal to face the death penalty doesn't violate the charter that specifically blocks this". The Canadian government literally sent back their own citizen to get the death penalty.

I was honestly shocked when it happened.

 

[AnOminous]

It went all the way up to the Canadian Supreme Court and their ruling is pretty much along the lines of "let's just pretend that in this case, extradition of this animal to face the death penalty doesn't violate the charter that specifically blocks this". The Canadian government literally sent back their own citizen to get the death penalty.

I was honestly shocked when it happened.

It is pretty unusual, but I wonder if it would have gone differently if he'd not been a Hong Kong national.

 

[JustStopDude]

It is pretty unusual, but I wonder if it would have gone differently if he'd not been a Hong Kong national.

I think yes, that may have complicated things if he was a full Candian citizen. I think the Supreme Court was looking for any reason to get him out of the country.

 

[JT Marlin]

I know of murder word usage. I Choose to express myself diplomatically.

Fair enough. I'm not a fan of it because I've heard people now use the word "unalive" instead of suicide IRL. Disguising that we are letting censorship rules dictate speech in private conversations.

I attached the first bit where he talks about the reason he left PEI abruptly.

Amazing work. Also shocking to hear him cry. That threat must have just happened same day because otherwise his ego would have kicked in and stopped him.

Yeah, I think the whole, "No extradition treaty" trick is from a bygone era, something you hear about in old movies and TV shows.

It's because the majority of countries with no extradition treaties are places where a Western does not want to live. And the few desirable ones are friendly with US law enforcement (https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...r-russian-master-hacker-convicted-in-seattle/):

While the U.S. did not have a treaty with the Maldives, officials there agreed to let U.S. agents arrest Seleznev. He was taken into custody at the airport without incident, despite official protests from Russian authorities that he was kidnapped.

I think yes, that may have complicated things if he was a full Candian citizen. I think the Supreme Court was looking for any reason to get him out of the country.

They would have insisted no death penalty if he was a Canadian citizen (https://www.lawnow.org/extradition-in-canada-united-states-v-burns-then-and-now/):

In their judgment, the SCC found that extradition to a state where the death penalty may be imposed violates section 7 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Section 7 states, “Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice.” The Court further determined that sending the young Burns and Rafay to the United States to face possible execution was a violation of the principles of fundamental justice that would “shock the conscience” of the Canadian public.

As a result of the SCC finding, Burns and Rafay were extradited to Washington – with assurances that the death penalty would not be imposed. In May of 2004, both Burns and Rafay were convicted of three counts of murder, with each being sentenced to three consecutive life sentences with no chance of parole.

 

[AnOminous]

It's because the majority of countries with no extradition treaties are places where a Western does not want to live. And the few desirable ones are friendly with US law enforcement (https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...r-russian-master-hacker-convicted-in-seattle/):

It's also because the "trick" actually works unless they care about you enough to bother. A lot of the times the jurisdiction you pissed off is just glad to be rid of you. Generally, murder is enough to make them care enough to chase you down, though.

 

[Sumptinsfuckey]

Still no sign of the potato peelings then?

 

[torpig xmr]

ze potato has been mashed

 

[MunsterCheeseJr]

So when does the RCMP finally get access to the house he fled? Open house by the relator? After the new owner buys it?

Speaking of which, I think in the US if someone was murdered in the house you have to disclose that in the sale as it affects the home value.

What if JFG sells it without disclosing this, and it comes out later that JFG murdered our potato in the home, sliced her up, threw her on the pressure cooking pot for hours on end until he crumbled her bones into dust.

 

[American Castration]

What if JFG sells it without disclosing this, and it comes out later that JFG murdered our potato in the home, sliced her up, threw her on the pressure cooking pot for hours on end until he crumbled her bones into dust.

My guess would be that he murdered her in this sort of grisly, inhuman way. (Sure, all murder is inhuman, but there are still degrees of grotesqueness and malice involved in different murders.)

I think this because (a) of his oddly preemptive excuse for redoing his kitchen and "sterilizing" his house, (b) it seems to fit in with his atheistic glee in reducing a human down to nothing but mechanisms, and (c) from the accounts given by his neighbors on FB, he rarely goes outside and hardly seems like the type who'd take her out in the forest and shoot her (or poison, strangle, club, stab, whatever).

My guess - just a guess - is that he murdered her in the house and disposed of 90% of the remains in this sort of sick, disgusting way. Some larger bones might've been pulverized and put out with the trash in the 90 days between her disappearance and JF telling the public she transformed from a housewife into a wilderness survivalist adventurer.

 

[JT Marlin]

So when does the RCMP finally get access to the house he fled? Open house by the relator? After the new owner buys it?

Speaking of which, I think in the US if someone was murdered in the house you have to disclose that in the sale as it affects the home value.

What if JFG sells it without disclosing this, and it comes out later that JFG murdered our potato in the home, sliced her up, threw her on the pressure cooking pot for hours on end until he crumbled her bones into dust.

AFAIK, gayrapey is not selling the house so the RCMP would have to get a warrant.

PEI has similar disclosure for realtors (not a law, only a best practice AFAIK). If it was not disclosed, the buyer would likely sue under tort law.

 

[MunsterCheeseJr]

AFAIK, gayrapey is not selling the house so the RCMP would have to get a warrant.

So then how long until someone comes along and guts the house for copper wiring and plumbing and the police have to investigate a break in?

Junkies might use it as their flop house. Squatters might move in.

That house won't maintain itself. And JFG had better hire someone to mow the lawn.

Come to think of it, maybe that is JFG's best course of action at the loss of the value of his house. Better than an murder conviction.

"Your honor, I don't know how those blood stains and blood splatter ended up about the house. Junkies took the place over. Who knows what they did there. Why those squatters must have put those bone fragments in the pipes themselves."

 

[JT Marlin]

So then how long until someone comes along and guts the house for copper wiring and plumbing and the police have to investigate a break in?

Junkies might use it as their flop house. Squatters might move in.

That house won't maintain itself. And JFG had better hire someone to mow the lawn.

Come to think of it, maybe that is JFG's best course of action at the loss of the value of his house. Better than an murder conviction.

"Your honor, I don't know how those blood stains and blood splatter ended up about the house. Junkies took the place over. Who knows what they did there. Why those squatters must have put those bone fragments in the pipes themselves."

He's not going to have those issues in small town PEI, except for mowing the lawn. City likely has a tall grass ordinance, so yeah will have to hire someone for that.

 

[MunsterCheeseJr]

@JT Marlin Yes. That was my first thought.

Of course, What if the family asks someone to break in prompting a call to the police.

Hell, what if one of the family members opts to break in, leave the front door open, hang out in the kitchen, wait for one of the neighbors to report this to the police. The police come in to investigate the break in. The family member immediately surrenders when the police enter the kitchen. The family member confesses that he or she was looking for any clues as to what happened to their missing daughter/sister. While there investigating the break in, the RCMP notice something. Prompting a reason to search further and obtain a search warrant.

What are the RCMP/prosecutors going to do? Let the family member off because no jury would convict them? Especially a jury of their peers on the island that know about about this. Maybe plea bargain them down the a slap on the wrist?

BTW - Who owns that house? Didn't I read further up in this thread that the house was owned by the potato as a way for JFG to avoid people tracking down his address? If so, then JFG can no longer has any say as to what happens to the house. Potato's family should be able to make that call if anyone.

 

[AshtonsMoobs]

Of course, What if the family asks someone to break in prompting a call to the police.

Hell, what if one of the family members opts to break in, leave the front door open, hang out in the kitchen, wait for one of the neighbors to report this to the police. The police come in to investigate the break in. The family member immediately surrenders when the police enter the kitchen. The family member confesses that he or she was looking for any clues as to what happened to their missing daughter/sister. While there investigating the break in, the RCMP notice something. Prompting a reason to search further and obtain a search warrant.

What are the RCMP/prosecutors going to do? Let the family member off because no jury would convict them? Especially a jury of their peers on the island that know about about this. Maybe plea bargain them down the a slap on the wrist?

BTW - Who owns that house? Didn't I read further up in this thread that the house was owned by the potato as a way for JFG to avoid people tracking down his address? If so, then JFG can no longer has any say as to what happens to the house. Potato's family should be able to make that call if anyone.

I don't believe the police can search for evidence that isn't in "plain view". If the family "staged" a break in any subsequent warrant would probably get tossed... I think.

 

[Kiwisee]

Not too long ago, there was a girl’s remains found in her hoarder mother’s freezer. Said girl was missing for over fifteen years prior to the discovery.

Something tells me that Elora never left the house in the first place. Dumping a body in the wilderness does increase the chances of getting caught. Given how much of a control freak Jean is, I doubt he’d leave it all up to fate like that. He knows exactly where she is right now.

How many forensic teams are going to think to look in some random deep freeze chest filled with meats?

Until I’m proven wrong, I doubt the body has even left the house at this point.

 

[DumbDude43]

Not too long ago, there was a girl’s remains found in her hoarder mother’s freezer. Said girl was missing for over fifteen years prior to the discovery.

Something tells me that Elora never left the house in the first place. Dumping a body in the wilderness does increase the chances of getting caught. Given how much of a control freak Jean is, I doubt he’d leave it all up to fate like that. He knows exactly where she is right now.

How many forensic teams are going to think to look in some random deep freeze chest filled with meats?

Until I’m proven wrong, I doubt the body has even left the house at this point.

no. dumping her in the woods would be much safer for him.
even if the cops find her there, it is not easy to turn "we found a corpse in the forest!" into proof for "this guy killed her!"
on the other hand, if he kept the body in the house, then the second they get a search warrant it's instantly game over for him.
it's easy to say "i don't know anyhting about that" when they find a body somewhere in the wilderness miles away from you. it's a lot harder to come up with an explanation for a body in your own basement.

 

[MunsterCheeseJr]

Best option was to pressure cook her in that huge bone broth pot of his down to crumbles and disperse that pretty much anywhere.

2nd best option would be for JFG to pull a Dexter and feed the lampreys.

3rd best is a forest dump off... while she was still alive. A chopped up body will be evident to the RCMP if found. Maybe a little street drugs in her food, leave her in the forest lost to die of exposure with a tent and her equipment laid out. But an abandoned tent would have been found during hunting season.