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A lot of reports coming from PA, and particularly Bucks county and Pottsville area seeing a lot of drones flying around. None of the videos and photos are very good. I'm being told they're very high in the sky.
 
They went full retard over a Chinese weather balloon being blown of course. As if they'd just be laissez-faire about a bunch of Chinese or unknown origin drones everywhere.

They're either testing drones for domestic monitoring and use, or they already have those drones and are using them as part of an investigation they aren't revealing.
 
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Has anyone seen this alleged "Intelligence Bulletin" from the New Jersey Division of Fire Safety?
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It was posted on Reddit (sadly) by someone who claims to be a firefighter in the state of NJ. Their account does check out however, as they have years worth of history posting in Firefighter and NJ related subreddits. Additionally there are other people also claiming it to be true with similar post history.

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Metabunk is claiming they are Starlink flares which seems to check out. either way it's going to ramp up the drone hysteria. If the US government seriously can't come up with any answer to what the drones are I'm going to say the Occams Razor answer is it's them fucking around with something.
 
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At the risk of being retarded and dismissive, but isn't this just drones being used for remote sensing in many of these cases? Agricultural and agroforestry drones are commonly used at night for gathering data or in rare cases for spraying. I don't know shit about the US agricultural sector, but that's pretty usual in most of the world.
 
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Most of the firefighter instructions make sense for any lithium battery vehicle fire.
But the bit about malfunctioning radios suggests jammers, plus explosives = hostile military.


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At the risk of being retarded and dismissive, but isn't this just drones being used for remote sensing in many of these cases? Agricultural and agroforestry drones are commonly used at night for gathering data or in rare cases for spraying. I don't know shit about the US agricultural sector, but that's pretty usual in most of the world.
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A few years ago there was a scene about big drones flying around at night in Colorado. They were indeed doing some sort of commercial mapping. Laws were passed very quickly to make them identifiable.


So I think if they were commercial an authority would be able to say so.

Edit: huh, reading that wiki, it seems they never did pin down what it was. But most likely air force.
 
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If the US government seriously can't come up with any answer to what the drones are I'm going to say the Occams Razor answer is it's them fucking around with something.
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That's the view commonly held within MIL and veteran communities in my experience. There are a number of options given the proliferation of drones in Syria a decade ago to the exponential growth in drone use in Ukraine. When researching the Troon Town project in the Trans Lifeline thread back in 2017, I discovered that not only did they start their weekend dope smoking getaway in the desert resistance compound a few miles from a decommissioned Navy impact range, but the range was being reactivated for drone development and small unit training for special operations groups. It stands to reason that such training efforts have widely expanded since then. Shit, I got some training on an early recon drone as a grunt 20 years ago.

Base security staff doing practicals could certainly account for some of it. One of the stories from a few years ago even prompted a Chinese national to go out and buy a drone to copycat. He tried to flee the country after he lost his drone in a tree in someone's backyard. Some of these incidents are certainly the commies as well.

Another option are DoD or CIA units doing penetration testing for facilities. Some of what's being reported would certainly be unorthodox for standard training, but such operatoins aren't without precedent. Richard Marcinko, a founder of DEVGRU (SEAL Team 6) , went to prison for misappropriation of funds while being involved with the a unit where drone ops at CONUS bases would be right at home. He formed the first known Red Cell in 1984. Its mission was to test security at US installations. Marcinko is a gloryhound and I don't know how much of what he talks about is 100% truth, but it and at least one subsequent post 9/11 CIA Red Cell are documented to have existed. Among the stories of Marcinko's cell is one about planting a fake bomb near Air Force One and kidnapping a civilian security guard employed at a Naval installation and interrogating him with alleged beatings and toilet swirlies.

I personally believe that it's a combination of training, foreign operatives, and black opfor units doing pen tests.
 
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I’m not the only one with good ideas. People are shooting at the drones.
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This is a really fucking bad idea. The only time someone that wants to do this, should ever consider doing this, is if an object was basically right above them.

Bullets arc when fired at airborne targets and, depending on trajectory, can absolutely come down and kill people. It happens regularly.

I distinctly remember a CSI (TV show) episode having it as the main plot point.

Good luck to any dumb bastard that ends up doing 25 years for killing a toddler 3 miles away.
 
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This really is kind of the perfect rough draft Study for UAP right now. We have more civilian cameras pointed at the sky right now than ever before. If we're going to have a chance to see something truly anomalous nows the time.

And honestly, it really shouldn't be that hard. All we would need to see is a light moving in a manner that violates Aerodynamics. If we see an object instantaneously stop and move in another direction at a speed unexplainable we've got it.

So now's the time here. This is the opportunity. Will we eventually see that?

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This is a really fucking bad idea. The only time someone that wants to do this, should ever consider doing this, is if an object was basically right above them.

Bullets arc when fired at airborne targets and, depending on trajectory, can absolutely come down and kill people. It happens regularly.

I distinctly remember a CSI (TV show) episode having it as the main plot point.

Good luck to any dumb bastard that ends up doing 25 years for killing a toddler 3 miles away.
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Coincidentally came across this just now. Life comes at you fast. lol
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